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04-27-2013, 03:37 PM
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As I said, maybe it wont matter. But thats not the point.

Why even make it an issue? If this was the agreed upon deal, do it in a month when the Caps are playing golf. There is no earthly reason to do it now. Only bad things can happen from it.
As I said, I don't think it matters wrt Holtby. Rather I think it's about a trade. Neuvy isn't likely to play for a while. So you do it now as value setting and prevents Neuvy going overseas or looking elsewhere. I have to believe he will be playing in Calgary or NYI or something next year. You don't pay that money to your backup unless you're Van.

Generally don't have faith in GMGM but this makes no sense at all otherwise.

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Horribad. So what teams could be looking for a guy like Nervy?
Phoenix, Jersey, Philly,...?
If Mike Smith leaves Phoenix, then they'd be the ideal candidate in my mind.
Jersey potentially, but Marty is probably going to play one more year and for some reason the org seems to believe in their goalie prospects.
Philly likely isn't buying out Bryzgalov this off-season, and already has Steve Mason signed to back him up. Not a candidate.
The Islanders could potentially be interested, given the age of Nabokov (and Thomas )

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So today’s announcement of Neuvirth’s contract extension has a lot of amateur capologists and armchair GMs scratching their heads and wondering why the Capitals are paying their “backup” goalie more than they’re paying their No. 1 guy.
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Philadelphia went through all sorts of roster gyrations to get Ilya Bryzgalov signed to a mammoth nine-year contract two summers ago. The Flyers moved centers Mike Richards and Jeff Carter off their roster to clear the cap space needed to sign Bryzgalov to a contract that now looks like a certain amnesty buyout candidate this summer.
Somehow I don't buy what he's selling.


PS: It's ok if PHO will bite.

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I refuse to believe this deal was done without knowledge from all parties that Neuvy will be traded this offseason. George HAD to have gone to Neuvy and said let's get this done so we can find you a home to be #1 this summer on a reasonable cap hit, and then he told Holts that they're signing Neuvy to trade him and that he's our franchise netminder going forward. This is the only scenario I envision that isn't completely absurd.
Beat me to it. It HAS to be this. Just has to.

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Somehow I don't buy what he's selling.


PS: It's ok if PHO will bite.
He's full of ****.

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Somehow I don't buy what he's selling.


PS: It's ok if PHO will bite.
I just skimmed it really quickly, but it looks like he's making a huge fool of himself. Regardless of what you think of Neuvirth, his leverage was nonexistent. The best he could have possibly asked for was a tiny raise. He's barely played this season and was abysmal last year. How can a GM, under those circumstances, manage to double the guy's salary? When half these contracts are signed, it seems like they just asked the agent what his demands were, checked if they had the cap room, and said okay.

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Somehow I don't buy what he's selling.


PS: It's ok if PHO will bite.
All he did was explain how it is good to have Neuvirth signed. But he didn't explain why he should make more than Holtby.

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All he did was explain how it is good to have Neuvirth signed. But he didn't explain why he will make more than Holtby.
It would be good to sign Ribs. Lets double his salary.

Wasn't Neuvy an RFA?

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I just skimmed it really quickly, but it looks like he's making a huge fool of himself. Regardless of what you think of Neuvirth, his leverage was nonexistent. The best he could have possibly asked for was a tiny raise. He's barely played this season and was abysmal last year. How can a GM, under those circumstances, manage to double the guy's salary? When half these contracts are signed, it seems like they just asked the agent what his demands were, checked if they had the cap room, and said okay.
His leverage would have been the KHL. If you don't want that to happen then this may be the price. Now, unless they have a trade worked out and this is all just groundwork, I don't get why the KHL (and him potentially staying there til UFA) is that big a deal. But if it is this is about the size of how you avoid it.

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I also don't see how signing him to a bad contract helps his trade value. His potential trade-ability was based on the idea that he had upside but was still cheap. He's still relatively cheap, but the basis of his trade value is now two years behind us, so having to pay him $2.5M may give teams one more reason to hesitate. I just don't see how he doesn't look at least slightly more appealing as an unsigned RFA.

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His leverage would have been the KHL. If you don't want that to happen then this may be the price. Now, unless they have a trade worked out and this is all just groundwork, I don't get why the KHL (and him potentially staying there til UFA) is that big a deal. But if it is this is about the size of how you avoid it.
What did Varlamov get from Colorado? Like 3.25/yr or something? I understand that he also wanted the title of starter, but come on. You don't trade Varlamov, who was coming off an excellent (part) season, and then turn around and give Neuvirth, in his position, almost as much money for essentially the same reason. It just doesn't make sense. If they really believe in Holtby, they shouldn't feel the need to **** themselves over to keep Neuvirth at a ridiculous price. I also don't think the KHL rumors are about money; they're about playing time.

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McPhee told us he talked to Holtby before extending Neuvirth. #Caps plan to sign goalies goes back to September.

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i think its obvious that the caps didnt sign neuvirth as a back up goalie. they signed him as a second young starting gioalie. the salary and term make that pretty clear. where neuvirth the starter and holtby the second, it would make plenty of sense.

i think the salary is high, but i also acknowledge that i dont know what their cap plan is while most here just slam it as if they know better.

oh...and if holtby get damaged and misses any kind of real time and day sabourin is the other goalie, the caps just lose. see carolina trying to service with ellis and peters.

ok...so who's gonna step up and say neuvirth isnt better than dan ellis? you know you want to.

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SO essentially Caps have 5.7M to play with to resign (potentially):

Mojo, Alzner, Hendy, Ribeiro

Mojo gets probably 2M, Alzner better get 2.5M, and Hendy will probably get .85, leaving the Caps without a second line center and a very, very weak defense.


Unless the Caps can somehow package Schultz and Neuvy and end up with a top 4 defenseman, no one wins by this signing.

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Hendricks is getting significantly more than .85.

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Hendricks is getting significantly more than .85.
In his contract year in 2010-11 he got 25 points and was two years younger than he is now. He ended up with a .825 contract. If I were GMGM, anything over .85M is overpaying based on solely his production. Not saying I don't love Hendy, just thinking that is his value.

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In his contract year in 2010-11 he got 25 points and was two years younger than he is now. He ended up with a .825 contract. If I were GMGM, anything over .85M is overpaying based on solely his production. Not saying I don't love Hendy, just thinking that is his value.
His real value doesn't matter. That contract was signed after his first real NHL season. He would have probably taken anything one-way. The question with Hendricks is whether he'll get enough more than $1M that he's not worth keeping. He's not getting $.85.

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Johansson is getting substantially more than $2M as well.

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Either he's traded in the offseason or I just don't honestly know. It's terrible.

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Quit freaking out guys. McPhee has a plan.

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