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04-27-2013, 08:50 AM
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5 picks in the first 3 rounds...a draft junkies dream.



Hell yes it will.
I have a strong feeling that Bergevin will try to trade one of NSH or CGY 2nd and/or a prospect to move up in the draft. If he does, I really hope it's gonna be for a big name. If not, I'm more than fine with it since some really good prospect should still be available.

Only a feeling..

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04-27-2013, 08:53 AM
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First tie breaker is the ROW and Calgary is at 19 and Tampa at 17, that's why they can't pass them.
Ahh, good to know. Thanks!

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04-27-2013, 08:58 AM
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Big fan of Zadorov, rocked Tom Wilson last night wow. Domi played sick too... by the end of the playoffs for sure their going to go up in rankings.

Subban - Zadorov
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Emelin - Gorges

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04-27-2013, 10:02 AM
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Big fan of Zadorov, rocked Tom Wilson last night wow. Domi played sick too... by the end of the playoffs for sure their going to go up in rankings.

Subban - Zadorov
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Emelin - Gorges
We'd have to trade up to get either one and they don't fit a need, doubt we get either one.

I could see us trading up for Gauthier Lazar or Erne.

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04-27-2013, 11:06 AM
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Hopefully, Habs will finish 4th overall and not 2nd in our Conference.

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04-27-2013, 11:12 AM
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We'd have to trade up to get either one and they don't fit a need, doubt we get either one.

I could see us trading up for Gauthier Lazar or Erne.
Hard hitting defensemen are definitely a need

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04-27-2013, 11:14 AM
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Hard hitting defensemen are definitely a need
TBH, I'd rather pick Morin at wherever we're picking than picking Zadorov 12-ish picks earlier at the expanse of the many guys we could pick later on in the draft.

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04-27-2013, 11:19 AM
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Our two first picks should be one gritty, big, good scoring winger and one tall, big d-man.

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04-27-2013, 11:46 AM
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Our two first picks should be one gritty, big, good scoring winger and one tall, big d-man.
While I agree that's what the habs need now... Using the first two picks to draft players who'll likely only see NHL action in 3-4 years from now rather than drafting the BPA doesn't make much sense.

that being said, there are many big and talented players in the 20-40 range that the habs can target, so it would be the perfect scenario if Timmins can manage to draft a big BPA

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04-27-2013, 12:19 PM
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We'd have to trade up to get either one and they don't fit a need, doubt we get either one.

I could see us trading up for Gauthier Lazar or Erne.
Who knows, really ?

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04-27-2013, 01:17 PM
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Kind of OT, but I'm watching coverage of the NFL Draft (rounds 4-7) on NFL.com right now, and their coverage is so much better than what the NHL does. Yes, they do interview some teams' personnel and watch some draft reactions, but it's mostly analysis of the drafted players and they comment on nearly every pick as it happens.

Why can't the NHL do that past round 1?

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04-27-2013, 01:21 PM
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Kind of OT, but I'm watching coverage of the NFL Draft (rounds 4-7) on NFL.com right now, and their coverage is so much better than what the NHL does. Yes, they do interview some teams' personnel and watch some draft reactions, but it's mostly analysis of the drafted players and they comment on nearly every pick as it happens.

Why can't the NHL do that past round 1?
The NFL draft is ridiculously over the top. Military tributes and "U-S-A!" chants in the third round? I do wish the NHL didn't neglect the rest of the rounds the way they do, but the NFL draft is a bread and circus show that's only really possible when talking about the NFL.

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04-27-2013, 01:43 PM
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Kind of OT, but I'm watching coverage of the NFL Draft (rounds 4-7) on NFL.com right now, and their coverage is so much better than what the NHL does. Yes, they do interview some teams' personnel and watch some draft reactions, but it's mostly analysis of the drafted players and they comment on nearly every pick as it happens.

Why can't the NHL do that past round 1?
The NFL draft is much different though, so many positions to fill they draft much more based on positioning and their draftees are much older and all step into the team right away. It's a different importance and the later rounds are much more important

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The NFL draft is much different though, so many positions to fill they draft much more based on positioning and their draftees are much older and all step into the team right away. It's a different importance and the later rounds are much more important
Also, They pick much older, nfl ready prospects, pretty much by needs. It's obviously much easier to analyze the pick as it happen because of that.

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04-27-2013, 03:20 PM
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We'd have to trade up to get either one and they don't fit a need, doubt we get either one.

I could see us trading up for Gauthier Lazar or Erne.
I'll flip a desk if we trade up for Gauthier.

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04-27-2013, 03:38 PM
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I'll flip a desk if we trade up for Gauthier.
In celebration, or disgust ?

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04-27-2013, 04:09 PM
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I'll flip a desk if we trade up for Gauthier.
One of the few guys worth trading up for.

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I'll flip a desk if we trade up for Gauthier.
I'll flip it back over JUST TO FLIP IT AGAIN.

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04-27-2013, 04:31 PM
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While I agree that's what the habs need now... Using the first two picks to draft players who'll likely only see NHL action in 3-4 years from now rather than drafting the BPA doesn't make much sense.
A voice of reason. Too many posters are immediately slotting our first round pick into the lineup despite the fact that it takes 3 to 4 years to develop as you said. By the time a defenseman from this draft is ready a player like Gorges could be long gone from Montreal

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04-27-2013, 04:46 PM
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One of the few guys worth trading up for.
There's a lot of guys in this draft I'd trade up for.

And Gauthier is definitely not one of them.

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04-27-2013, 04:57 PM
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There's a lot of guys in this draft I'd trade up for.

And Gauthier is definitely not one of them.
I'm with you....but I gotta admit he is growing on me. Every time I watch him I like him a bit more.

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04-27-2013, 05:20 PM
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It has been said before by others, and I have said it numerous times. It would be DUMB for the Habs to not follow their draft board and draft a player for need in the first 2 rounds.

1-because at the draft you want value instead of need(Giroux vs Fischer)
2-By the time players X and Y arrive full time in the NHL in 3-4-5 years the team's needs could be vastly different
3-It's the GM's job to build the team, the head scout is there to add the besdt players via the draft.
4-if two or more players are very close, then you lean towards the position most needed in the organisation.

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04-27-2013, 05:21 PM
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There's a lot of guys in this draft I'd trade up for.

And Gauthier is definitely not one of them.
Why not? Size skill, plays both ways.

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04-27-2013, 05:29 PM
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Why not? Size skill, plays both ways.
Not convinced of his offensive upside, lacks an extra gear. This team is packed to the brim with 3Cs regardless of how tall they are.

I wouldn't complain if he's our pick..but I wouldn't trade up for him, definitely not.

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04-27-2013, 05:39 PM
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Not convinced of his offensive upside, lacks an extra gear. This team is packed to the brim with 3Cs regardless of how tall they are.

I wouldn't complain if he's our pick..but I wouldn't trade up for him, definitely not.
He's not going to beat you with speed, but what 6'5" guy will? He moves very well for his size.

If you draft him it's to be a low end #1 or high end #2 center. He is only a 3# if he fails to reach his 60-70 point potential. He won't be a big scorer but an above average playmaker IMHO. 20-25 goals and 40-45 assists. If you can get a guy like him in the 20's and you have to trade up, you do it IMHO.

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