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04-27-2013, 05:25 PM
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I know he's versatile.
But if Plekanec ends up being the 3rd line center, that would mean one of three things.

+ Either he really regressed
+ Either two of Galchenyuk, Desharnais or Eller really improved on their actual play
+ A combination of the above.

Forget DD for a moment -- moot point, won't get a raise anytime soon.

If Gally and Eller pass Plekanec on the depth chart, they'll be asking for... good money. And if Plekanec's play drop, he'll have to accept a drop OR he'll be overpaid, depending on when the drop occurs.

Plekanec has many qualities. It's just that 5M for a 3rd center doesn't make sense in a 60-something M cap world.
Galchenyuk already has similar cap hit to Desharnais. Eller needs a new contract after 13/14. There's little chance he'll be given enough offensive minutes to give him a contract higher than DD. Unless we're talking about something unrealistic - Galchenyuk becoming 80+ point player before his ELC finishes + Eller putting up 60-70 points next season without PP time on the 3rd line, there's little chance either will make more than DD let alone Plekanec.

5M for a 3rd C is fine if he's as versatile as Plekanec. We can literally put 2 cheap rookies on his line and it'd still be sound on D. He's already been playing with Bourque/Gionta/Moen/Darche and facing #1 offensive lines. If Eller/Galchenyuk improve he'd be playing with say Kristo/Prust against 2nd lines. ~9M for a 3rd line. Our current 3rd line of Galchenyuk-Eller-Bourque = ~8M.

The key is versatility and needing low maintenance to be effective. If Plekanec was PP specialist that doesn't kill penalties/play good D, then his 5M cap hit is an issue and a waste on the 3rd line if Eller/Galchenyuk/DD pass him in the depth chart.

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Eller was much more advanced when drafted AND when coming to North America than Plekanec was.
If Plekanec was 6'2'' he would have easily been top 60 pick instead of a high 3rd round pick. He was already putting up decent points in the Czech 1st tier men's league in his draft year while Eller was still in the junior leagues in Sweden. Eller didn't even make it as a full time player in the 1st tier Swedish league until 1 year after he was drafted. If anything, Plekanec was much more advanced in terms of facing men when he made the NHL after playing 3 full seasons in the AHL including a tougher lockout AHL season. Eller only had 1 SEL season, 1 AHL season, and a half/half/half year between Swedish junior/1st tier/2nd tier .


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04-27-2013, 05:34 PM
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Galchenyuk already has similar cap hit to Desharnais.
not really. bonus money doesn't count against the cap for the most part.

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04-27-2013, 05:37 PM
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not really. bonus money doesn't count against the cap for the most part.
... it counts against the cap...

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... it counts against the cap...
since when?

http://cdn.agilitycms.com/nhlpacom/P...ms-1-10-13.pdf

25.Performance Bonus Cushion
Performance Bonus Cushion provisions to be applicable in every year of the CBA (including the last year).



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Lars Eller plays a physical game. Recognize.

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04-27-2013, 07:14 PM
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Don't think anyone would take the bet that Eller would end the season with the same amount of points as Desharnais.

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Don't think anyone would take the bet that Eller would end the season with the same amount of points as Desharnais.
Has more now.

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Eller supasses his point production of last year (also his best) in 46 games!

Edit : And then another assist! 30 points in 46 games now!


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He's our best center. That's all there is to it.

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04-27-2013, 07:40 PM
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Let me remind everyone that Eller was selected with a pick that was supposed to belong to Toronto, that they traded for Vesa Toskala.

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Let me remind everyone that Eller was selected with a pick that was supposed to belong to Toronto, that they traded for Vesa Toskala.


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2 assists,1 goal after 2nd period. Go Lars Go.

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He may honestly be our best center at this point.

Just a dominant 2-way beast tonight.

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Go Lars Go. We need everything we can get going into playoffs!

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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?

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Let me remind everyone that Eller was selected with a pick that was supposed to belong to Toronto, that they traded for Vesa Toskala.
did not know that ; awesome !!

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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?
I dunno, I wanted Perron or Oshie but I'm willing to eat crow if this keeps up!

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04-27-2013, 08:15 PM
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Plekanec got jealous of Eller's performance.

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04-27-2013, 08:28 PM
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Lars also plays defence. This year he is hands down better than DD and so on a long term deal if DD is worth $3.5M you do $4.5M for sure to lock him up for 5-6 years.

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04-27-2013, 08:29 PM
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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?
Give him credit for also moving up to get Tinordi, who might just help us go deep in the playoffs.

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I am an Eller fanboy.

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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?
But I am not a Gauthier fanboy.

**** you Pierre.

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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?
Nope, I chose to believe Eller was high on Timmins' 2007 draft list and gave good word about him.

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Plekanec got jealous of Eller's performance.

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04-27-2013, 09:21 PM
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So can we finally give Gauthier credit for being adamant on wanting Eller from the Blues?
So long as we give him full credit for Gorges' super long contract and acquiring the benchwarmer Kaberle.

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