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04-28-2013, 02:43 PM
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After going to the game in Winnipeg and then watching the Toronto game it seems like the #1 need at forward is a winger for Pleks. Desharnais looked better with Bourque and Pacioretty on his wings while the Eller line really looked solid.

Pleks is stuck with two one-dimensional players. Gionta works hard and I would still keep him for another year but he doesn't use his linemates very well. I had forgotten how one-dimensional Ryder is and when that dimension isn't working, he is brutal.

If I could get a guy like Viktor Stalberg, to play on the left side with Pleks I would be all over it. The guy is a great skater so that skill set figures into what the team is trying to do, he has great size at 6'3 and 210 pounds and he is probably good to chip in 15 - 20 goals.

Chicago will be in cap trouble and probably won't be able to offer Stalberg fair market value unless they make some other significant changes. Maybe when Bergevin traded for Ryder, knowing he was coming off contract, he had Stalberg in the back of his mind. After working in the the Chicago system he would know Stalberg's skill set and personality well.
Your solution for Plekanec's wing is to replace one of his 20-30G wingers with a 15-20G one?..That makes sense..

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04-28-2013, 02:49 PM
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Bryan Bickell and Dupuis should be the two targets for forward positions next season.

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04-28-2013, 03:39 PM
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Just a different look at the possible Free Agents we can sign and lineup possibilities:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Bourque
Morrow-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Dumont-Prust-A.Stewart
(Moen/White)

Gorges-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
Scuderi-Markov
(Bouillon)


Scuderi, A.Stewart, Morrow?

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04-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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Morrow is done and A. Stewart is a massive floater with caracter issue IMO.

Scuderi would be great.

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04-28-2013, 04:00 PM
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Just a different look at the possible Free Agents we can sign and lineup possibilities:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Bourque
Morrow-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Dumont-Prust-A.Stewart
(Moen/White)

Gorges-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
Scuderi-Markov
(Bouillon)


Scuderi, A.Stewart, Morrow?
I'd be cool with Morrow depending how much he wants and for how long. I'd rather just play Tinordi than get Scuderi. Stewart? I don't knlw much about him. Isn't he a bit of a nutcase?

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04-28-2013, 04:09 PM
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why not Yashin
Both and let's send Galchenyuk back to Sarnia and Gallagher to Hamilton.

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04-28-2013, 04:11 PM
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Just a different look at the possible Free Agents we can sign and lineup possibilities:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Bourque
Morrow-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Dumont-Prust-A.Stewart
(Moen/White)

Gorges-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
Scuderi-Markov
(Bouillon)


Scuderi, A.Stewart, Morrow?
At this point in their respective careers I would take Stalberg over Morrow. Anthony Stewart with 7 points in 30 AHL games... no thanks. And I would take Tinordi over Scuderi.

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04-28-2013, 04:13 PM
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Bryan Bickell and Dupuis should be the two targets for forward positions next season.
I would like to see the team acquire someone younger than Dupuis

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04-28-2013, 04:13 PM
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The only move that would bear some logic would be to trade Desharnais for a couple draft picks, 2nd this year and 3rd next year to Tampa i.e.

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04-28-2013, 04:20 PM
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The only move that would bear some logic would be to trade Desharnais for a couple draft picks, 2nd this year and 3rd next year to Tampa i.e.
If we trade DD i'd like to receive a decent enough C prospect in return in case of injuries.

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04-28-2013, 04:27 PM
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I'd be cool with Morrow depending how much he wants and for how long. I'd rather just play Tinordi than get Scuderi. Stewart? I don't knlw much about him. Isn't he a bit of a nutcase?
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At this point in their respective careers I would take Stalberg over Morrow. Anthony Stewart with 7 points in 30 AHL games... no thanks. And I would take Tinordi over Scuderi.
Stalberg is my #1 guy for this offseason, just throwing out options.

Stewart has struggled since junior with consistency and work-ethic issues. Huge amount of potential to be an absolute force as a player. If you disregard some of the consistency issues he is exactly what the Canadiens need, big net presence who can fight and who hits just about anything. I don't expect him to play more than 4th line but I suppose he could fill in on the 3rd if need be, has the offensive ability. If there were any team he may be inspired to work on it'd be this one. Big risk, big reward type gamble. Wouldn't hurt to have him even as a 13th fwd.

Anyone else have more info on Stewart? I've only seen him play a little bit. Not my favourite character but brings something we need.

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04-28-2013, 04:33 PM
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one player we should be after is vanek we have the assets to get him

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Just a different look at the possible Free Agents we can sign and lineup possibilities:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Bourque
Morrow-Plekanec-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Dumont-Prust-A.Stewart
(Moen/White)

Gorges-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
Scuderi-Markov
(Bouillon)


Scuderi, A.Stewart, Morrow?
Why would we want A.Stewart? Way too soff and not great defensively or on PK.

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04-28-2013, 07:55 PM
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Stalberg is my #1 guy for this offseason, just throwing out options.

Stewart has struggled since junior with consistency and work-ethic issues. Huge amount of potential to be an absolute force as a player. If you disregard some of the consistency issues he is exactly what the Canadiens need, big net presence who can fight and who hits just about anything. I don't expect him to play more than 4th line but I suppose he could fill in on the 3rd if need be, has the offensive ability. If there were any team he may be inspired to work on it'd be this one. Big risk, big reward type gamble. Wouldn't hurt to have him even as a 13th fwd.

Anyone else have more info on Stewart? I've only seen him play a little bit. Not my favourite character but brings something we need.
If we don't re-sign Ryder we should be able to get a better UFA than Stalberg. He is big and fast but not gritty or high end skill.

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04-28-2013, 07:59 PM
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The only move that would bear some logic would be to trade Desharnais for a couple draft picks, 2nd this year and 3rd next year to Tampa i.e.
How would that be in any way logical? We just signed him to an extension.

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04-28-2013, 08:45 PM
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How would that be in any way logical? We just signed him to an extension.
Well there was no NTC attached to it... or was there?

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FA-Plekanec-vanek
Pacioretty-Eller-Gionta
Prust-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Moen-White-Armstrong or FA or farm hand
(dumont)

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
tinordi-Diaz
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Desharnais-Bourque traded

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04-28-2013, 10:48 PM
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Well there was no NTC attached to it... or was there?
Still, if MB was planning on moving DD this summer he would have let him be a RFA and let the next team sign him to whatever type(long or short) term contract they wanted.

I think DD is a lock to at least start next year in Montreal, if Gallagher and Galchenyuk keep progressing and Kristo is NHL ready then you move DD in 14 months.

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04-28-2013, 10:49 PM
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FA-Plekanec-vanek
Pacioretty-Eller-Gionta
Prust-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Moen-White-Armstrong or FA or farm hand
(dumont)

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
tinordi-Diaz
(Bouillon)

Desharnais-Bourque traded
Getting Vanek would probably cost at least one of Eller Gallagher or Galchenyuk.

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i'd be perfectly fine with this team next year:

pacioretty - plekanec - gionta
galchenyuk - eller - gallagher
bourque - desharnais- kristo
prust - gordon - moen
leblanc dumont

gorges subban
markov emelin
tinordi diaz
bouillon

price
budaj

i'd be perfectly fine with this team next year:

pacioretty - plekanec - Raymond
Bickell - eller - gallagher
bourque -galchenyuk -Stallberg
prust - Lapierre -White
leblanc/ Bordeleau

gorges subban
markov emelin
tinordi diaz
bouillon

price
budaj

A little more size and speed, all are UFA's
Cost is only $$$
Can trade DD/Moen/Gionta for picks/assets
Team gets younger,bigger,tougher
Backs up guys like Dumont/Kristo to develop more in AHL

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If we don't re-sign Ryder we should be able to get a better UFA than Stalberg. He is big and fast but not gritty or high end skill.
Depends on the cost and the role you want him to fill. We have two offensive right wingers in Pacioretty and Galchenyuk. Stalberg would fit in well as a #3 left winger, we wouldn't be giving up assets and he probably wouldn't cost a lot.

I know there are lots of posters with their eyes on Vanek and others but we live in a cap world where players have to be selected on both their ability and their cost. Keep in mind the cap is going down next year and the year after that as well.

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i'd be perfectly fine with this team next year:

pacioretty - plekanec - Raymond
Bickell - eller - gallagher
bourque -galchenyuk -Stallberg
prust - Lapierre -White
leblanc/ Bordeleau

gorges subban
markov emelin
tinordi diaz
bouillon

price
budaj

A little more size and speed, all are UFA's
Cost is only $$$
Can trade DD/Moen/Gionta for picks/assets
Team gets younger,bigger,tougher
Backs up guys like Dumont/Kristo to develop more in AHL
I like this but we could get someone other than Raymond as we will have cap space if we can trade over 10 million above and buyout Kabs.

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There is a great chemistry, the Habs shouldn't break it. Add two-three players like Morrow, Bordeleau, Hendricks and thats it. Players who can help the team without breaking the core and the chemistry.

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Still, if MB was planning on moving DD this summer he would have let him be a RFA and let the next team sign him to whatever type(long or short) term contract they wanted.

I think DD is a lock to at least start next year in Montreal, if Gallagher and Galchenyuk keep progressing and Kristo is NHL ready then you move DD in 14 months.
The only reason that makes sense to me for MB signing DD to a 4 year deal is that he had a deal in place to trade Eller and that he got cold feet about trading him.

MB said around the time of the DD signing he was surprised how many teams had asked about Eller and he thought he should find out why others thought so highly of Eller.

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