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View Poll Results: Rangers Regular Season MVP
Stepan 112 48.70%
Lundqvist 105 45.65%
Nash 8 3.48%
Callahan 3 1.30%
Mcdonagh 0 0%
Girardi 1 0.43%
Other 1 0.43%
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04-28-2013, 04:45 PM
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Hank if I had to choose, though it's essentially equal, I think. Wouldn't have made the playoffs without either of them.

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04-28-2013, 05:25 PM
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As the poll indicates, this was the closest we've ever been to a new MVP on the team. As we have Lundqvist, perhaps an award should be given separately among the skaters.

Stepan ended the season with a +25, which was the 5th best in the entire league. He was 23rd in takeaways (34), tied 2nd with 6 GWG. Tied at 21st in points is also very solid. He should deservedly be given some Selke votes, even though he's probably some distance from being a nominee. Next season will be very interesting to see if Stepan can tie together several seasons playing this well. Consistency is what separates the elite players from the very good.

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04-28-2013, 06:07 PM
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Hank, but its not a gimme this year

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Stepan, only because of the fact that if you can't score goals, it dosen't matter how many get scored against you, you're still going to loose. Very close, but stepan going above and beyond expectations, and really bailing out the team when Richards was in the dumpster, sealed it for me.

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04-28-2013, 08:46 PM
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Lundqvist, Nash or Stepan.

I think Lundqvist or Nash is a toss up.

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04-28-2013, 10:59 PM
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Hank was average for the 1st half of the year.. if step didn;t have the year he had with richards gabs and no secondary scoring this couldve been a disaster of a year... the middle stretch of the season where we thought we were done, step battled and put us in a position to be competitive every game..lundqvist is the easy answer.. but look where this team was this year with noone playing up to expectations and step shinning bright.. hes the guy that put us over the top..

1c is key to success.. if he didnt step up no bueno.. wouldve fell far back in the standings..
You don't get a GAA of a shade over 2 by being average for half a season. Bad first 3 games and he was great ever since for the most part.

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04-28-2013, 11:10 PM
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Stepan had a really great year but its got to be hank

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04-28-2013, 11:48 PM
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Literally every player except Stepan underachieved this season, so I'll vote him.
Nash was on a 78 point pace, 1 off his career high. How did he underachieve? Did you expect 100 points?

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04-29-2013, 12:25 AM
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voted stepan, but it's a tossup. voted step because he got almost everybody he played with to improve.

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Stepan was great but.. c'mon. Another great season from the bust ****ing goalie on the planet.

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04-29-2013, 01:34 AM
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Nash was on a 78 point pace, 1 off his career high. How did he underachieve? Did you expect 100 points?
You would be correct, Nash as well. He was great.

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My de facto MVP top 3 is pretty given:

1. Hank
2. Nash
3. Stepan

Stepan undoubtedly had the best season, in relation to ability.

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04-29-2013, 04:37 AM
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Why all the Henriks

I'm all for Henrik but if Step doesn't deserve it then when will someone other than Henrik take MVP? Cally robs Step of the SMEEA and now you guys are too. Tsk tsk.
When Henrik retires.

Also the EEA felt like it was just given to Ryan just because. Henrik actually earned MVP as usual.

Stepan had a great year, but Henrik is the MVP year in and out.

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04-29-2013, 06:10 AM
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Nash was on a 78 point pace, 1 off his career high. How did he underachieve? Did you expect 100 points?
meh. He also had the best supporting cast in his professional career by a wide margin. He seemed to disappear for games at a time.

To be honest, with the perfect setup Nash had this season, I was a bit disappointed. Wasn't expecting a 100-point pace, but 78 feels a bit low.

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meh. He also had the best supporting cast in his professional career by a wide margin. He seemed to disappear for games at a time.

To be honest, with the perfect setup Nash had this season, I was a bit disappointed. Wasn't expecting a 100-point pace, but 78 feels a bit low.
Nash had the highest PPG on our team (.95), was tied 10th in the league in goals scored, 15th in the league in ESP (Even Strength Points). Ending with a +16 was also pretty good. He also contributed on the ice even when he didn't score.

Nash was a top 10 goal scorer (all ahead of him had played 3-4 games more) on a struggling team with a non functioning PP, how is that a disappointment?


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Nash had the highest PPG on our team (.95), was tied 10th in the league in goals scored, 15th in the league in ESP (Even Strength Points). Ending with a +16 was also pretty good. He also contributed on the ice even when he didn't score.

Nash was a top 10 goal scorer (all ahead of him had played 3-4 games more) on a struggling team with a non functioning PP, how is that a disappointment?
There were a number of games where he was invisible for the first two periods of a game, or invisible for a couple of game at a time. Yes, it was great he could turn on the light switch in the third period of some games, but I found the inconsistency in his game maddening.

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04-29-2013, 06:46 AM
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If Stepan had an "average" season, I feel like we'd probably finish around 10th. If Lundqvist had an "average" season, we'd be terrible.

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Has to be Lundqvist... Without him this team would be at the bottom of the conference... Hes been the team MVP the past 4 or 5 years running now... just a real pleasure to have him as or goailie... King Henrik!!

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If Stepan had an "average" season, I feel like we'd probably finish around 10th. If Lundqvist had an "average" season, we'd be terrible.
I dunno..

i only felt like Henrik "stole" us a few games this season, not as many as years past. I think there were a TON of games where he was spectacular, and lost.

Last year those games were wins, which makes sense to make him the MVP.

It feels like this year, the games we've won, were more because of the team in front of him finally playing well, rather than him stealing us wins.

and when those games happened, it felt like Stepan was at the epicenter of those games.

Does that make sense?

Henrik didn't have to be godly in our wins this year...it seemed like he was more god-like in our losses than our wins.

strange to make sense of that in my head.

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I dunno..

i only felt like Henrik "stole" us a few games this season, not as many as years past. I think there were a TON of games where he was spectacular, and lost.

Last year those games were wins, which makes sense to make him the MVP.

It feels like this year, the games we've won, were more because of the team in front of him finally playing well, rather than him stealing us wins.

and when those games happened, it felt like Stepan was at the epicenter of those games.

Does that make sense?

Henrik didn't have to be godly in our wins this year...it seemed like he was more god-like in our losses than our wins.

strange to make sense of that in my head.
It makes sense to me and is essentially why I voted for Steps.

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Stepan
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If Stepan had an "average" season, I feel like we'd probably finish around 10th. If Lundqvist had an "average" season, we'd be terrible.
Well they do play different positions so their roles are obviously different. Lundqvist doesn't come off the ice when he's playing and plays the most important position in the game. That being said when judging the MVP we should evaluate the players contributions in the proper context given their positions/roles on the team.

For me Stepan played his best hockey and played to his full potential whereas many of the other players did not. The fact that Stepan upped his game at a time where our supposed #1 center struggled badly was particularly important & valuable.

Henke had a solid season and of course played a huge role in our making the playoffs but I don't necessarily feel like we saw his best hockey from him or that he played to his max potential.

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Well they do play different positions so their roles are obviously different. Lundqvist doesn't come off the ice when he's playing and plays the most important position in the game. That being said when judging the MVP we should evaluate the players contributions in the proper context given their positions/roles on the team.

For me Stepan played his best hockey and played to his full potential whereas many of the other players did not. The fact that Stepan upped his game at a time where our supposed #1 center struggled badly was particularly important & valuable.

Henke had a solid season and of course played a huge role in our making the playoffs but I don't necessarily feel like we saw his best hockey from him or that he played to his max potential.
And yet Henrik finished with his 2nd best season statistically.

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Had to go with Stepan, he was just unreal in the last 35-40 games. He's certainly earned himself a nice raise this summer.

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If Stepan had been replaced by an average top-9 center, he'd have scored 7-8 goals fewer and would've been responsible for a similar amount fewer goals created by his assists. That's about 15 goals.

If Lundqvist had been replaced by an average starting goalie, the Rangers wouldn't have been top-4 in the NHL in goals against, they would be about average, which would mean 17-18 goals more given up.

These are not exact stats, but to be honest, it does show that the two were similar in importance to the team.

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