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04-21-2013, 11:47 AM
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I remember Randy Gregg was studying medicine while he was playing for the Oilers in the 1980's. Does anyone know if he became a doctor and is he practicing?
"Hey folks, how'd you like to have HIM operating on your heart?" - Don Cherry on Randy Gregg after he missed a yawning empty net for an empty net goal. Cherry's mother scolded him after she heard that and told him not to make things personal, even though it was just a joke. Cherry maintains that to this day it is the thing he regrets saying the most.

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04-21-2013, 03:25 PM
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Larry "the China Clipper" Kwong was the first player of Asian descent to play in the NHL. He played one minute of a game for the Rangers in 1947-48.
And somehow, it would be another 62 years before a player of Chinese descent played in the playoffs (Brandon Yip with the Avalanche).

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04-21-2013, 09:11 PM
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And somehow, it would be another 62 years before a player of Chinese descent played in the playoffs (Brandon Yip with the Avalanche).
Kariya?

Edit: No, I've got it wrong, Japanese descent. They were waiting for him over in Japan for the 1998 Olympics - to no avail.

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04-21-2013, 09:20 PM
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Not hockey related but you reminded me about it.

The evolution of flight was so fast that the Wright Brothers (the first people to fly) and Neil Armstrong (first man on the moon) were both alive at the same time for a few years...

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04-22-2013, 12:34 AM
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Not hockey related but you reminded me about it.

The evolution of flight was so fast that the Wright Brothers (the first people to fly) and Neil Armstrong (first man on the moon) were both alive at the same time for a few years...
Wonder if Tyler Wright and Colby Armstrong are related?

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04-22-2013, 12:46 AM
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Mark Howe is Gordies son, not his brother.
foppa, eric, vladdy?, jagr, pronger?

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04-26-2013, 10:17 PM
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My God that 1990 season is atrocious.


That 12 points is basically half of the NHL worst season (21 by 1975 Caps).
No wonder Paul Kariya chose the NCAA route over the WHL. Victoria held his WHL rights at that time.

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04-26-2013, 10:37 PM
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foppa, eric, vladdy?, jagr, pronger?
Forsberg, Lindros, Clarke, Jagr, Timonen. 3/5 ain't bad though!

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04-26-2013, 11:45 PM
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Alain Lemieux was called up to play with the Penguins (his little brothers team).

While he got to play on his brothers team, he was actually called up to replace Mario who was out with the flu.

Alain was a pretty talented player in his own right. But, he was reputed to be chronically out of shape, and poor defensively.
The Nords traded for him. He put up 22 points in 30 games, but showed up next fall fat and out of shape, all but cementing his reputation as a career minor leaguer.

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Tony Esposito made his debut in 1969 as a Canadien against his brother Phil. Phil got both of Boston's goals in a 2-2 tie.

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based on those reviews, maybe Don Cherry was right

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If you consider the Hart, Conn Smythe and Art being the "major" awards for forwards there is one year when none of those awards were given to forward. 1969-70 season when Orr won the Art, Hart, Conn Smythe and of course Norris.

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If you consider the Hart, Conn Smythe and Art being the "major" awards for forwards there is one year when none of those awards were given to forward. 1969-70 season when Orr won the Art, Hart, Conn Smythe and of course Norris.
Orr's the only defenseman to win the Art Ross, but what other years did a forward not win either the Hart or Conn Smythe? Of the top of my head, all I can think of are 2002 when Theodore won the Hart and Lidstrom won the Conn Smythe, and 2000 when Pronger won the Hart and Stevens the Conn Smythe

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07-08-2013, 11:30 AM
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Mike Bossy scored a goal on Dominik Hasek


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Mike Bossy scored a goal on Dominik Hasek

To elaborate, Bossy retired from the NHL in 87. Hasek debuted in 91. Even more interesting is that the players are only 8 years apart in age, yet Hasek retired from pro hockey 24 years after Bossy.

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07-08-2013, 11:53 AM
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To elaborate, Bossy retired from the NHL in 87. Hasek debuted in 91. Even more interesting is that the players are only 8 years apart in age, yet Hasek retired from pro hockey 24 years after Bossy.
Also interesting is that if that graphic is correct, Hasek only weighed 138 pounds when he first started out. That's gotta be one of the lightest ever.

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07-08-2013, 12:59 PM
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Orr's the only defenseman to win the Art Ross, but what other years did a forward not win either the Hart or Conn Smythe? Of the top of my head, all I can think of are 2002 when Theodore won the Hart and Lidstrom won the Conn Smythe, and 2000 when Pronger won the Hart and Stevens the Conn Smythe
Well those two years you listed were correct, so:

2001-2002:
Hart: Theodore
Conn Smythe: Lidstrom

1999-2000:
Hart: Pronger
Conn Smythe: Stevens

1996-1997:
Hart: Hasek
Conn Smythe: Vernon

1971-1972:
Hart: Orr
Conn Smythe: Orr

1970-1971
Hart: Orr
Conn Smythe: Dryden

1969-1970:
Hart: Orr
Conn Smythe: Orr

Interestingly 2/3 years when Orr won the Hart he won the Conn Smythe. The one year in the middle went to Dryden. So it was a three years in a row when forward didn't win either of the trophies. Only time in the history of sports when it was consecutive years.

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07-09-2013, 12:50 PM
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John Wensink played internationally for the Dutch national team in 1989.

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07-09-2013, 01:19 PM
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March 1958, Habs Jacques Plante gets injured in the 2nd in Boston, the Bruins up 1-0, Montreal with 2 men in the Penalty Box. Spare emergency goalie with Boston, John Aiken, a 26yr old Mathematician with the US Air Force, NCAA player with Boston University, rec-player essentially, gets called in to play from his seat at the Garden. Allows 4 goals in his first 5 minutes, then settles down for the remainder of the game somewhat. 12 shots in total, allowing 6 goals in a 7-3 Boston win.

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My favorite: Jocelyn Thibeault was the winning goalie in the last game at the Montreal Forum and Maple Leaf Gardens (and to boot also the Capital Centre). Nice story for his grandkids.

Another: Andrei Kovalenko only played one year with the Habs (17 goals) but scored the last goal at the Forum and the first one at the Bell Centre in Montreal.

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07-09-2013, 06:06 PM
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The Quebec Nordiques were originally formed as the San Francisco Sharks.

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The Quebec Nordiques formed as one of the original World Hockey Association teams in 1972. The franchise was originally awarded to a group in San Francisco, as the San Francisco Sharks. However, the San Francisco group's funding collapsed prior to the start of the first season,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Nordiques

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07-09-2013, 07:52 PM
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Pretty sure Brodeur is the only player not named Gordie Howe who was still playing when his son was draft (I'm not sure about Chelios).

Joel Quenneville was the coach of two teams that came back from a 5-0 deficit (St. Louis in 2000 and Chicago in 2009).

The 2001 Stanley Cup Finals was the battle of Colorado: old (Devils, who were the Rockies from 1976-81) vs new (Avalanche).

Pretty sure the Florida Panthers were the only team to have a winning record vs the Habs prior to the lock-out.

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07-10-2013, 01:35 AM
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Mike Bossy scored a goal on Dominik Hasek

This blew my mind. Hasek as a teenager. Scored on by Bossy. Wow.

Czechoslovakia had nobody older to keep for them? Briza?

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07-10-2013, 02:22 AM
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This blew my mind. Hasek as a teenager. Scored on by Bossy. Wow.

Czechoslovakia had nobody older to keep for them? Briza?
They had. I dont know , from what year is this video with Bossy. But Hasek was already the best goalie here. He was already as a 17 year old goalie numero uno in HC Pardubice. And you should know, that time was the Czechoslovakian league maybe the 3th best league in the world. After NHL and Soviet Union. If some teenager could take the place in top league team, that meant SOMETHING. Much more like this days.
A goalie with his talent and his training effort will be today sure Number ONE draft pick and the media would be crazy from his talent.

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Is the "bad brother" phenomenon down to poor scouting?

Did teams at one point think: "Hey this really good player we have has a brother who knows how to skate, let's try him out."?
Nah its PR. There has been some decent brothers too. Claude and Jocelyn Lemieux for example. Jocelyn didnt have Claude scoring ability but was a very good pest and PKer.

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