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04-28-2013, 12:50 PM
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Jordan Stall has 273 more points in the NHL and he's 1 year older than Colborne...Toronto Sun, really?
Colborne could have a big 274 point year next season...

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04-28-2013, 12:55 PM
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Colborne was 67% on faceoffs yesterday.

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Steckel was 60% over an entire season.
I think Yannik Perrault was probably the only faceoff specialist that I've seen who I would rather have taking the draws.

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Colborne was 67% on faceoffs yesterday.
If he can keep that up, plus solid defensive play. His big frame, long stick, and size make him a very good commodity. I really think if he continues to produce he'll make Grabovski even MORE expendable.

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He should join Kadri and train with Gary Roberts over the summer.

Love to see Kadri (I expect his faceoffs to be much better next season)-Colborne-Bozak-McClement. As our centres next season. Bozak is in the line only if he resigns cheap. If not, we get a UFA signed centre.
A lot of people may not realize this, but Tyler Bozak and Joe Colborne have already played on the same team at the U of Denver, Joe actually outscored Bozie that year, abeit in 21 games more due to Bozie's injury. That's an uncanny connection.

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04-28-2013, 01:10 PM
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A lot of people aren't reading the article and just looking at the headline.

Colborne never said he's going to put up 60 points from the 3rd line. He wants to MODEL his game after those big guys.

Colborne is a big body that is determined to crack the Leafs line up on a permanent basis. Is he going to look up to Steckel or guys like Lecavalier and Staal and try to add that into his game?

Jordan Staal's role on the Pens was never to be a point producing guy. All he was asked to do was be solid on the ice for 20 mins while producing 45-50 points.

The reason he asked to be traded was because he was behind Crosby/Malkin.

Colborne wants to model his game to be a solid player for the Leafs that wins faceoffs, plays on the PK, and contributes offensively-----> The role Staal had on the Pens.
Model is the key word, yes. If anything I admire Joe for knowing what type of player he feels comfortable being. That's the tough part for some players, all expect to be top 6 players, but a willingness to accept a lesser role speaks to his maturity. He had one of the best + - for the Marlies this year, and he chipped in offensively too. #3C 2 way Center is a great goal to have on the Leafs, and a nice fit for our team.

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04-28-2013, 01:16 PM
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I think Colborne will be a good player. I was really down on him, but since he's been up you can see that he's improving game by game. His positioning and speed are light years ahead of where they were last year and his decision making with the puck is improving with each game he plays. If we move Grabovski, I wouldn't be upset if he became our third line center next season

A player he should model his game after is Martin Hanzal of the Phoenix Coyotes. He isn't much of an offensive player (~40 points), but stands 6'6, is a stud defensively and is good on the draw. The guy shuts down most of the top players in the West and is a big reason for Phoenix' success in the past few years. If Colborne could play a similar role here, he could be a very key piece for this team going forward.

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I have been very impressed with his game the last few nights

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While I agree with Mess and ULF_55 in the fact that the article isn't saying that Colborne is going to be, projected to be, or even trying to be like Staal or Lecavalier, I still find the fact that the article mentions the fashioning of Colborne's game after Staal to be irresponsible journalism.

The aspects of the game that Colborne is said to try and emulate based off of Vinny and Jordan, are the same aspects that other players do just as well if not better. Steckel is a perfect example of what we can say Colborne should be fashioning his game after.

Steckel is a big centre, with some offensive up side, great on the drops, and has really made a name for himself as a #3 or #4 centre in the NHL.

It's difficult to say that player X is fashioning his game around player Y when player Y is viewed in many ways that player X will never be viewed.

The issue is that it's sexy to use a name like Staal when writing a column to sell a paper, but it's not sexy to use a name like Steckel. Even if the Steckel analogy is much more accurate - accuracy doesn't sell as well.

That's irresponsible journalism.
Except for the fact the writer used direct quotes with Colborne referencing Jordan Staal.

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Joe Colborne, the lanky 23-year-old from Calgary, said he would like to fashion his game after fellow centre Jordan Staal, who had six very productive years with the Pittsburgh Penguins as a defensive forward and now plays alongside his brother Eric with the Carolina Hurricanes.

Hes good on face-offs Hes a guy I look at. Another guy is Vinny (Lecavalier), who we played against the other night (a 5-2 loss to the Tampa Bay Lightning on Wednesday). You just pick up little things from those guys. But if I could play a role like Jordan Staal was earlier in his career, Id be a good help to this team.

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I think it's a stretch to try and compare Colborne to any of the Staal brothers at this point.

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I think it's a stretch to try and compare Colborne to any of the Staal brothers at this point.
Obviously you didn't read the article.

He said he wants to MODEL his game after Jordin Staal's.

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He was winning board battles and had a good cycle game going. Was one of the few bright spots last night. Definitely improved a lot in my eyes. Hopefully he continues his improvement and becomes a good shut down centre. McClement can really help in that regard as well.

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While I agree with Mess and ULF_55 in the fact that the article isn't saying that Colborne is going to be, projected to be, or even trying to be like Staal or Lecavalier, I still find the fact that the article mentions the fashioning of Colborne's game after Staal to be irresponsible journalism.

The aspects of the game that Colborne is said to try and emulate based off of Vinny and Jordan, are the same aspects that other players do just as well if not better. Steckel is a perfect example of what we can say Colborne should be fashioning his game after.

Steckel is a big centre, with some offensive up side, great on the drops, and has really made a name for himself as a #3 or #4 centre in the NHL.

It's difficult to say that player X is fashioning his game around player Y when player Y is viewed in many ways that player X will never be viewed.

The issue is that it's sexy to use a name like Staal when writing a column to sell a paper, but it's not sexy to use a name like Steckel. Even if the Steckel analogy is much more accurate - accuracy doesn't sell as well.

That's irresponsible journalism.
colborne has skill too... people dont even watch them and make stupid remarks about him... steckel? comon.

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He's noticeable out there in a good way lately. Would love to see him keep throwing around his body like he has been the last little while. He still seems a bit timid with the puck, almost like he doesn't want to hold on to it for too long but I think he'll get better at that as he gets more comfortable in the bigs.

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How are people even commenting without reading the article? How do you not put together that Colborne himself only said he tries to play like Staal? Irresponsible journalism? Misleading title? Get outta here lol.

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It would be nice if Joe dresses for the Bruins, the Kaberle trade may start paying off this series.

We have waited a long time, the seeds from the Kaberle trade have been planted. Liles is here, Colborne is up with the big team, both have played well enough to play against the Bruins, time to collect may be now.

Tyler Biggs, too soon, but the final piece of the trade may be the kicker.

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Obviously you didn't read the article.

He said he wants to MODEL his game after Jordin Staal's.
Yes, I know he said he wanted to MODEL his game after Jordin Staal's.

My point was, that despite his comment, we shouldn't try to compare his style against any established players until he establishes himself to be a regular NHL player.

Too many times we've been disappointed, as a fan base, because we were expecting a player to develop into something glorious that never came to pass.

Let's not set our expectations for any of our prospects too high!

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While I agree with Mess and ULF_55 in the fact that the article isn't saying that Colborne is going to be, projected to be, or even trying to be like Staal or Lecavalier, I still find the fact that the article mentions the fashioning of Colborne's game after Staal to be irresponsible journalism.

The aspects of the game that Colborne is said to try and emulate based off of Vinny and Jordan, are the same aspects that other players do just as well if not better. Steckel is a perfect example of what we can say Colborne should be fashioning his game after.

Steckel is a big centre, with some offensive up side, great on the drops, and has really made a name for himself as a #3 or #4 centre in the NHL.

It's difficult to say that player X is fashioning his game around player Y when player Y is viewed in many ways that player X will never be viewed.

The issue is that it's sexy to use a name like Staal when writing a column to sell a paper, but it's not sexy to use a name like Steckel. Even if the Steckel analogy is much more accurate - accuracy doesn't sell as well.

That's irresponsible journalism.
You're kidding right? And I don't want Colborne to model his game after Steckel. Yes, Steckel was big, but barely hit anything, and I still think Colborne has at least some offensive upside. He should model his game after Jordan Staal, but that doesn't necessarily mean we have to think he'll ever be as good. May as well model your game after someone good, rather than a depth guy.

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Just get Grabovki out of the line-up and I'm happy...

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Kulemin
Mac - Colborne - Frattin
Mclaren - Mcclement - Komarov

We're going up against the Bruins play the guys with the most heart...

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Wrong thread.

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Bozak practicing without team, doesn't auger well he will start Wed, Joe C could be forced into a bigger role than was expected of him. Luckily he got a few games in to prepare. Not ideal, but it is what it is. Need guys to step up to fill possible big hole.

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Don't see much with him but I hope he proves me wrong.

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Yes, I know he said he wanted to MODEL his game after Jordin Staal's.

My point was, that despite his comment, we shouldn't try to compare his style against any established players until he establishes himself to be a regular NHL player.

Too many times we've been disappointed, as a fan base, because we were expecting a player to develop into something glorious that never came to pass.

Let's not set our expectations for any of our prospects too high!
Let me get this straight...He should not say the type of game he wants to play or the type of player he hopes to become because fans are too stupid to not know it isn't certain he will turn out the way he hopes ? You may want to rethink that, if you thought about it at all before typing it.

If Colborne could be come a bit meaner and show consistancy he could turn out to be the ideal number 2 or 3 center depending on wether Kadri is a number 1 or 2. He also may not . Either way he is starting to look like an NHLer and has the tools to be a useful player.

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Colborne could have a big 274 point year next season...
Now thats being unrealistic, you really think Staals gonna get 0 pts next yr cmon, he needs to aim a little higher

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