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04-29-2013, 07:31 PM
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At least we weren't pushed back to 9th.
Slim chance but also very true.

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That was boring as hell. So because of all the rules no one could drop more than one place. So pretty much only the winner of the draft could possibly move up to #1. The rest would remain static.

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04-29-2013, 07:32 PM
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Slim chance but also very true.
Slim chance, maybe, but still 2 and a half times more likely than what everyone here was rooting for and was disappointed didn't happen

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04-29-2013, 07:37 PM
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That was boring as hell. So because of all the rules no one could drop more than one place. So pretty much only the winner of the draft could possibly move up to #1. The rest would remain static.
What?? You wanted them to indiscriminately draw team names out of a hat???

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04-29-2013, 07:38 PM
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Darcy couldn't make it?
Apparently neither could Terry

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04-29-2013, 07:39 PM
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I have a funny feeling Darcy is going to try like hell to move up, maybe a lot up, in the draft. Just a question of whether or not he can find a dance partner.
No way 2 teams in their new division trade with him, and no way the Avs pass on Jones IMO

So best we can hope for is getting the 4th pick

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04-29-2013, 07:39 PM
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I have a funny feeling Darcy is going to try like hell to move up, maybe a lot up, in the draft. Just a question of whether or not he can find a dance partner.
Just for comparison, the highest traded out of spot (Draft Day Trade) in the last 7 drafts

2012- 8th
2011 - 22nd
2010 - 15th
2009 - 12th
2008 - 5th
2007 - 9th
2006 - 16th

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04-29-2013, 07:41 PM
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I have a funny feeling Darcy is going to try like hell to move up, maybe a lot up, in the draft. Just a question of whether or not he can find a dance partner.
Vanek + 8 + 16 for Jones + ROR?

Man I am in a funny mood tonight.

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04-29-2013, 07:46 PM
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What?? You wanted them to indiscriminately draw team names out of a hat???
No, but make it so the entire 14 team list is fluid. As in, the Sabres can go anywhere from 1 to 14.

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04-29-2013, 07:48 PM
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Players drafted at 8 since 2000:

Players since 2000 drafted with 8th pick:

Nikita Alexeev
Pascal Leclaire
PM Bouchard
Braydon Coburn
Alex Picard
Devin Setoguchi
Peter Mueller
Zach Hamill
Mikkel Boedkker
Scott Glennie
Alex Burmistrov
SEan Couturier
Derrick Pouliot

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04-29-2013, 07:54 PM
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Players drafted at 8 since 2000:

Players since 2000 drafted with 8th pick:

Nikita Alexeev
Pascal Leclaire
PM Bouchard
Braydon Coburn
Alex Picard
Devin Setoguchi
Peter Mueller
Zach Hamill
Mikkel Boedkker
Scott Glennie
Alex Burmistrov
SEan Couturier
Derrick Pouliot
not a horrible list ...

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04-29-2013, 07:57 PM
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And not an amazing list either.

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04-29-2013, 07:57 PM
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What?? You wanted them to indiscriminately draw team names out of a hat???
To be honest, I'd prefer that (totally random distribution) or even going in order of non-playoff teams' records, with the best record getting #1 (or the best odds of #1).

Eliminate this tank crap once and for all. You don't need high draft picks to avoid finishing last.

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04-29-2013, 08:00 PM
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To be honest, I'd prefer that (totally random distribution) or even going in order of non-playoff teams' records, with the best record getting #1 (or the best odds of #1).

Eliminate this tank crap once and for all. You don't need high draft picks to avoid finishing last.
I can understand the sentiment, but I think most teams still try to win games, and a a very few examples of futility cloud our thoughts.

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04-29-2013, 08:05 PM
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Players drafted at 8 since 2000:

Players since 2000 drafted with 8th pick:

Nikita Alexeev
Pascal Leclaire
PM Bouchard
Braydon Coburn
Alex Picard
Devin Setoguchi
Peter Mueller
Zach Hamill
Mikkel Boedkker
Scott Glennie
Alex Burmistrov
SEan Couturier
Derrick Pouliot
Well, that certainly looks a bit underwhelming.

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And not an amazing list either.
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half empty


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04-29-2013, 08:12 PM
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I can understand the sentiment, but I think most teams still try to win games, and a a very few examples of futility cloud our thoughts.
We just had our GM tell us that we're going to "suffer".

That's as blatant of an admission of "we're going to tank because we want a top-3 pick and that's how you do it" as you'll ever hear.

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04-29-2013, 08:14 PM
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not a horrible list ...
Uh yes it is. 90% of those guys were busts and Couturier is massively overrated.Not one star player out of the group.

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04-29-2013, 08:19 PM
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Ristoleinen would be fine with the best forward available at 16. The price to get Lindholm might be worth it but I doubt we get a top 4.....

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We just had our GM tell us that we're going to "suffer".

That's as blatant of an admission of "we're going to tank because we want a top-3 pick and that's how you do it" as you'll ever hear.
Uh...no. That's an admission of reality. Committing to the draft and the process of developing players means that the team will be bad in that transition time. He also said that he wants that process to be as short as possible and that he'd even like to keep Vanek and Miller during that time.

Tanking is spending near the cap floor and caring about profit margin only, refusing to ice a competitive team.

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04-29-2013, 08:31 PM
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FWIW, here's how much "tanking" went on down the stretch...

Fla - beat Ott and NYR in the last ten games.
Col - beat Anh, Van, St.L.
TB - beat Tor and Ott
Nsh - played horribly, but against a very tough schedule
Car - beat NYI and Bos
Cal - beat Min, Anh, Det
Edm - beat Min and Van
Buf - we all know what they did to "tank"

So the only possible team you could point to is Nashville. Every other team cared about "tanking" so much that they beat several playoff teams toward the end.

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04-29-2013, 08:36 PM
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I can understand the sentiment, but I think most teams still try to win games, and a a very few examples of futility cloud our thoughts.
That's not the only reason.

I think it's absurd that a team, once mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, is quite literally punished for winning.

It would also, IMO, cause #1 picks to be more spread out among the teams. A team that finishes last is probably several pieces away from competing - and they're probably in the position they are in because of incompetent roster building and/or poor coaching. And they get bailed out with the best player in a draft year. Meanwhile, a team that finishes just out of the playoffs who adds a #1 pick could very easily be a playoff team the next year. (And obviously, using a random distribution, even if you had the same 14 non-playoff teams the chance of the same team getting #1 two years in a row would be less than 10%).

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04-29-2013, 09:05 PM
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Let's just cut to the chase....

Who are we drafting, and will he be playing in Buffalo next year ? thanks

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Let's just cut to the chase....

Who are we drafting, and will he be playing in Buffalo next year ? thanks
Whatever the answer to the first question is, the answer to the second question is no.

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Whatever the answer to the first question is, the answer to the second question is no.
Why's that?

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