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04-26-2013, 03:40 AM
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Btw. does anyone know who will be next season in the division with Slovan? I thought that division will be the same, but according to some articles there should be changes.

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There are only 7 Slovak players in AHL, only 3 of them will be UFA this season (Viedensky, Valabik, Tatar). It is very unlikely that Slovan can sign Tatar ..
Tatar is UFA after the season 2013/2014.
Dont trust to Eliteprospect everytime. Look to Detroit Red Wings forum, there you can find answer why.

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What if Vondrka will not re-signed? Jakub Svoboda from Kometa Brno can be an option, he plays like Jan Kovar, they are comparable

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What if Vondrka will not re-signed? Jakub Svoboda from Kometa Brno can be an option, he plays like Jan Kovar, they are comparable
Does he have opt out clause?

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Does he have opt out clause?
really dont know.

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There are only 7 Slovak players in AHL, only 3 of them will be UFA this season (Viedensky, Valabik, Tatar). It is very unlikely that Slovan can sign Tatar ..
It looks like Viedensky as 4th/5th center and Valabik as 7th dman. Not bad.

Skoula - Stajnoch
Sigalet - Sersen !!please resign him!!
Brejcak - Mojzis
Valabik

Better than start in last season (without lockout players)

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04-29-2013, 05:20 AM
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What if Vondrka will not re-signed?
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Skoula - Stajnoch
Sigalet - Sersen !!please resign him!!
Brejcak - Mojzis
Valabik
Simple answer to both questions:

Vampola - Mikus - Miklik
Hudacek - Bliznak - Satan
Bartovic - Kytnar/Olvecky - Kukumberg
Hascak - Stastny - Dano

Possible: Vondrka, Lipiansky?
Farm, or backup: Bakos, Preisinger, Kudrna, T. Mikus, Viedensky?

Skoula - Sersen
Sigalet - Stajnoch
Mojzis - Mihalik
Brejcak- Daloga

Farm or Backup: Datelinka, Tabacek, Trska, Svarny?
Note: Valábik is probably out now, we have too many defenders under contract.

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04-29-2013, 05:32 AM
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President of KHL, Alexander Medvedev said that Medvescak Zagreb will probably be 28th team in KHL next season.

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Prezident KHL Alexander Medveděv: "Komise KHL se vrátila ze Záhřebu s velmi dobrými pocity. Klub už oslovil zhruba 15 kanadských a amerických hokejistů s chorvatskými kořeny, kteří teď hrají v AHL v kvalitních mužstvech a na velice solidní úrovni a kteří potvrdili zájem startovat za Záhřeb v KHL. Jediné, co zbývá, to je garance rozpočtu. Přesto si myslím, že existuje velká pravděpodobnost, že v příští sezóně uvidíme v KHL 28 mužstev, což znamená, že by byly 4 divize po 7 týmech," vedl šéf KHL pro agenturu RIA NOVOSTI.
15 players from AHL

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Simple answer to both questions:

Vampola - Mikus - Miklik
Hudacek - Bliznak - Satan
Bartovic - Kytnar/Olvecky - Kukumberg
Hascak - Stastny - Dano

Possible: Vondrka, Lipiansky?
Farm, or backup: Bakos, Preisinger, Kudrna, T. Mikus, Viedensky?

Skoula - Sersen
Sigalet - Stajnoch
Mojzis - Mihalik
Brejcak- Daloga

Farm or Backup: Datelinka, Tabacek, Trska, Svarny?
Note: Valábik is probably out now, we have too many defenders under contract.

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too many defenders? dont think soo. we have skoula, sersen, stajnoch, mojzis and tabacek. i hope Valabik will replace Mihalik.

Can't see four 20y or younger players in your line-ups

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04-29-2013, 05:53 AM
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too many defenders? dont think soo. we have skoula, sersen, stajnoch, mojzis and tabacek. i hope Valabik will replace Mihalik.
Even if you dont think so, its true. I dont say that we have too many good defenders or so, I said that we have too many defenders under contacts!

Under contacts: Sersen, Skoula, Mojzis, Datelinka, Tabacek, Trska
Talks about contract extension: Mihalik, Sigalet

Additions:
- Brejcak is in talks with Slovan, Litvinov is already looking for replacement
- Daloga is in talks

That's 10 defenders, and there is still Svarny in team (Restricted free agent).

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Here are my possible line-ups

Janus - Konrad

Skoula - Stajnoch
Sigalet - Sersen / if Sigalet will not resigned, then Daloga
Brejcak - Mojzis
Cajkovsky - Ceresnak
Valabik
Datelinka


Surovy/Spirko - J.Mikus - Miklik / if Vondrka will not resigned, or some skilled left-handed winger
Hudacek - Handzus - Kukumberg
Stastny - Bliznak - Bartovic
T.Mikus - Olvecky - Dano
Bakos
Viedensky
Vandas
Kytnar

four juniors birthday date 92' or younger (Cajkovsky 92', Ceresnak and Mikus 93', Dano 94')

Cajkovsky - Ceresnak as 4th pair. Valabik first d-man reserve.

Without Handzus, centers can be 1. J.Mikus, 2. Bliznak, 3. Olvecky, 4. Viedensky

I think, Satan will retired after WC


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- Please no, he is very overrated!

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Cajkovsky - Ceresnak
- Cajkovsky - not possible, he was not draftet in KHL yet, if Slovan want to sing him he must be drafted first.

- Ceresnak - not possible, he was drafted by Sibir Novosibirsk, same as Viedensky.. And Sibir is key problem in deal with Viedensky.

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Cajkovsky - not possible, he was not draftet in KHL yet, if Slovan want to sing him he must be drafted first.
No, he dont have to be drafted to play KHL. He can sign with Slovan, whoerver, as free agent in KHL terms. No problem. I can see problem only with his status in NHL. Does he have contract in NHL?

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Ceresnak - not possible, he was drafted by Sibir Novosibirsk, same as Viedensky.. And Sibir is key problem in deal with Viedensky.
True, both drafted, so Slovan must do trade with clubs. That can be a problem, because russian clubs use to want money.

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Does he have contract in NHL?
He is contracted in AHL on farm of Capitals, but he is not drafted to NHL yet

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He can sign with Slovan, whoerver, as free agent in KHL terms.
Are you sure? I tought this rule is only for older players.

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He is contracted in AHL on farm of Capitals, but he is not drafted to NHL yet


Are you sure? I tought this rule is only for older players.
the same thing like Trska, Stastny, etc. signed as free agent without KHL draft

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He is contracted in AHL on farm of Capitals, he is not drafted to NHL
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Are you sure? I tought this rule is only for older players.
I am. Not drafted player can sign with every KHL club at the age of 17 or later. No problem. Of course, there is different. If you are not drafted, you are 17 yrs, so you can sign with KHL club one-year, 2y, 10y deal. If you are 17yrs, but drafted, you have to sign 3-year deal and of course, only with KHL club which drafted you (or your rights must be traded).

Look, F Kovar, born 1990, not drafted by KHL club, signed 3y deal with Magnitka. He could sign for 1y, 2y or 10y. Depends on his and club.

Cajkovsky was born 1992, as I know he was on try out in Slovan last summer but did not make team. He can sign now. Why not? I am sure no russian team is interested in him because he is too young (russian teams signs 23 and older foreigners, you know, when you sign 2-3 mil USD deal/season, you must have some experiance. It is not like NHL/AHL/CHL when you get much less money at this age). If is Slovan interested in him and he wants to play for Slovan, there is no problem why not to sign it.

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- Ceresnak - not possible, he was drafted by Sibir Novosibirsk, same as Viedensky.. And Sibir is key problem in deal with Viedensky.
- Ceresnak said he would like to play for Slovan, but can't find that article.
- dont think Viedensky will cost that much, maybe for free..haha

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Does he have opt out clause?
In his case it´s not about opt out clause, it´s about compensation money. Kometa wants plenty of money for him and prefers to keep him for one more year.
If he goes to KHL, he will choose much better and richer team than Slovan.

Comparison to Kovar is pretty bad. If Kovar were same skater as Svoboda, he would be top six forward in NHL.
Kovar is awful skater, Svoboda is the best skater in Czech Extraleague. Can play aggressive, physical game, has hard shot and drives the net.
Svoboda still has some NHL potential.

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In his case it´s not about opt out clause, it´s about compensation money. Kometa wants plenty of money for him and prefers to keep him for one more year.
If he goes to KHL, he will choose much better and richer team than Slovan.
Hope they will have the same attitude in negotiations with NHL clubs. And not only Brno, but all euro clubs.

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Hope they will have the same attitude in negotiations with NHL clubs. And not only Brno, but all euro clubs.
There won´t be negotiations with NHL clubs. He can leave either after expiration of his contract in Kometa(he still has 1+1) or in case NHL x CSLH agreement is signed in the future.

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Cajkovsky was born 1992, as I know he was on try out in Slovan last summer but did not make team. He can sign now. Why not? I am sure no russian team is interested in him because he is too young (russian teams signs 23 and older foreigners
Bolded seems like your answer..have you ever see him in real match? He is not skilled enough to play in KHL (now).. fights, too many penalties etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwhyrNp2rAY, take a look at right side for suggested vids.. no checks, no assists, no shots, no goals, just fights..

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In his case it´s not about opt out clause, it´s about compensation money. Kometa wants plenty of money for him and prefers to keep him for one more year.
If he goes to KHL, he will choose much better and richer team than Slovan.
Sorry, but are you really sure that Czech extraliga teams can overpay Slovan? The largest budget in last season in Czech Extraliga was around 6 mils euros (Pardubice) and budget of Komata was sligtly over 4 mils..


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Sorry, but are you really sure that Czech extraliga teams can overpay Slovan? The largest budget in last season in Czech Extraliga was around 6 mils euros (Pardubice) and budget of Komata was sligtly over 4 mils..
No need to overpay, he is signed there for one more year plus option.
Kometa would like to sell him for big money in the future.

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No need to overpay, he is signed there for one more year plus option.
Kometa would like to sell him for big money in the future.
You never know, he can have release clause.. never mind, there are other players which are still available.. what about Vampola? I heard that he is very difficult nature?

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No, I did not

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Daloga stays in Pardubice, he confirmed it for sport.sk

So no Daloga, no Valabik, no Hascak (yet), no Brejcak (yet), no Viedensky (yet) and key players without contracts.. seems like it is right time for panic.

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