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Best Devils Forward This Year #1

View Poll Results: Who was the Devils #1 forward in 2013?
Ilya Kovalchuk 17 17.53%
Patrik Elias 54 55.67%
Adam Henrique 0 0%
Travis Zajac 0 0%
Andrei Loktionov 10 10.31%
David Clarkson 0 0%
Dainius Zubrus 1 1.03%
Ryan Carter 5 5.15%
Steve Bernier 10 10.31%
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04-30-2013, 10:17 AM
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Absolutely, but a disappointing 1st liner is still better than an impressive 3rd liner.

I'm super proud of everything Bernier did this year but he's just not in the same league as Kovy or Elias. Patty had a bad year and still doubled Bernier in points.
Understood but I just see it differently.

It's not a matter of points or stats to me, otherwise anyone not named Kovy, Elias or a 1st liner wouldn't stand a chance to be our best forward.

Bernier exceeded expectations and was leading by example on the ice. that's the most important to me. He's my best player because he did his job greatly. Can't say the same thing with our "superstars".

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04-30-2013, 10:23 AM
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Elias had 8 even strength goals, 5 PP and 1 SHG in 48 games with 118 shots.
Kovy had 5 even strength goals, 2 PP and 4 SHG in 37 games with 123 shots.
Loktionov had 7 even strength goals, 1 PP and 0 SHG in 28 games with 47 shots.

Kovy has become a special teams scorer almost exclusively and then it's mostly short handed. Bernier, Clarkson, Carter, Henrique and Loktionov had more even strength goals than Kovy. Missing 11 games should not mean everyone passes your #1 sniper on the scoring chart. Loktionov did it in 9 less games to boot.

Nobody had a good year and Elias put up the best numbers and managed to be one of the brighter spots. Loktionov will be my #2 vote for sure.
100% agreement. It's hard to look at this team and give anyone credit for anything this season.

This season was like one of those multi-million dollar, blockbuster, special effect extraordinaire movies that have all the merchandise like light-up soda glasses and stuff being hocked in fast food joints weeks before the premiere only to be a complete flop and out of the box office in the first week.

The Season of Thor.


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04-30-2013, 10:47 AM
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Bernier is not being paid $6M per season and also exceeded expectations. Elias was nowhere to be seen for weeks when Kovalchuk was down. The team needed his leadership and his career 0.9 PPG. But Elias was a ghost out there. And he started to re-produce the day Kovalchuk came back. Our 2 best forwards on paper are a big disappointment.
The question was who was the Devils best forward in 2013. That was certainly not Steve Bernier.

If someone thinks Bernier's absence would have hurt the Devils more than Elias' I don't know what to say.

With that said I love both Bernier and Carter, but let's be real here.

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And if everyone would've fulfilled his role correctly like Bernier did, we wouldn't be golfing right now. He's my best Devils forward.

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04-30-2013, 11:33 AM
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Best forward was Elias, but I voted Bernier cause he played great all year.

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And if everyone would've fulfilled his role correctly like Bernier did, we wouldn't be golfing right now. He's my best Devils forward.
By best forward, I assume you mean had the most value to the team. If that is your definition, there is no way Steve Bernier, Ryan Carter, or Andrei Loktionov qualifies.

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people are grading on all sorts of crazy curves

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Elias has been our best forward for about 15 seasons now, nothing has changed.

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Patrik was non existent when Kovalchuk went down, came back to life when he returned. Coincidence? I say not. Kovalchuk made Clarkson and Elias better by drawing tougher minutes on most nights.
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Patty can't really make space for himself..Kovy can.

Patty didn't do **** when we were losing and Kovy was out
Agreed on both remarks.

If Kovalchuk didn't miss any game we could still have qualified to the playoffs. Same for Zubrus by the way who is an unsung hero of the team. I understand the argument for Bernier, but the poll simply ask who was the best, not who played up to the expectations.

So I'd still say Kovalchuk first and Elias second. And maybe after that, Bernier.

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Kovy's the most valuable forward, doesn't mean he had the best year. Kovy wasn't doing crap either except on special teams.

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