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04-29-2013, 09:59 PM
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Shouldn't Crosby win the Hart by a landslide? He nearly has the lead in points despite playing 12 fewer games than his closest competitors. Also, he's gotten his Kunitz and Dupuis to produce great offense. It's extraordinary really.
While he was hurt Pittsburgh was still playing like one of the best teams in the league. Crosby definitely had the best individual season though. Take Ovie off the Caps this season and they're a lottery team right now. When Ovie got going so did the Caps. To me that makes him more valuable to his team than Crosby.

Ovie's late push was kind of reminiscent of Corey Perry's MVP season a couple years ago.

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04-29-2013, 10:21 PM
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I love the TSN panel!
That's one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen, considering what we're used to seeing from Dreger, McKenzie, and Sutter. And the jab at O'Toole had me ROFLing.

I'd do anything to have TSN over ESPN here in the States. I even downloaded their app, and it's light years better than ESPN's!

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That's one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen, considering what we're used to seeing from Dreger, McKenzie, and Sutter. And the jab at O'Toole had me ROFLing.

I'd do anything to have TSN over ESPN here in the States. I even downloaded their app, and it's light years better than ESPN's!
My favourite part of this was Sutter drugging their drinks and saying, "That's for picking the Canucks." I loved that the Kings players seemed eager to play along.

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While he was hurt Pittsburgh was still playing like one of the best teams in the league. Crosby definitely had the best individual season though. Take Ovie off the Caps this season and they're a lottery team right now. When Ovie got going so did the Caps. To me that makes him more valuable to his team than Crosby.
Yeah, that's exactly why I wouldn't have Crosby win the Hart, either. However, I do think he was the best player in the league by far.

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04-29-2013, 11:31 PM
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Yeah, that's exactly why I wouldn't have Crosby win the Hart, either. However, I do think he was the best player in the league by far.
Oh yeah I'm not arguing whether or not he's the best player in the league. I don't think it's much of a debate. He definitely had the best individual season this year also. I just think Ovechkin was more valuable to his team this year than Crosby.

I just think some people get hung up on the talent level of a player or the stats they put up. In doing this they neglect the true meaning of a Most Valuable Player sometimes. It's not necessarily the best player in the league or the guy with the best stats. Most of time the guy with those two things going for him or at least close to it will also win it but its not exactly the true measuring stick for this award. To me if your team doesn't make the playoffs it's hard to consider that player an MVP. That's why I wouldn't consider Stamkos and St. Louis this year despite them being the top two point leaders. I also think when comparing players who you think are worthy of the award you should ask yourself this question "take player x off his team and would they be in the position they currently are in?" and likewise with the other player. To me that's the true way to look at who's an MVP.

Edit: I wasn't calling out the previous poster with this post. I was just speaking in general.


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04-30-2013, 12:15 PM
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First round playoff prediction time; let's see how terrible I am this year (last year was a total disaster):

PIT over NYI in 5
OTT over MON in 6
WSH over NYR in 6
BOS over TOR in 5

CHI over MIN in 4
ANA over DET in 6
VAN over SJ in 5
LA over STL in 7
My Picks (different selections)

NYR over WSH
I think Lundqvist will steal some games and Wash will be ousted.

Tor over Bos
Not sold on Boston but Rask should be able to beat out an inexperienced Riemer. However I say Toronto wins ...just a gut feeling

Min over Chi
Going out on a 1 inch limb but this is my upset choice...

STL over LA
This one will be close and I give the edge to the Blues...

*I think Vancouver will actually make it to the finals....call me crazy

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04-30-2013, 12:27 PM
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Pens over Isles in 6
Boston over Toronto in 7
Ottawa over Montreal in 6
Washington over NYR in 7

Chicago over Minnesota in 5
Detroit over Anaheim in 7
Vancouver over SJ in 6
LA over STL in 6


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Pens over Isles in 6
Boston over TB in 7
Ottawa over Montreal in 6
Washington over NYR in 7

Chicago over Minnesota in 5
Detroit over Anaheim in 7
Vancouver over SJ in 6
LA over STL in 6
Excellent. I have also blocked out that Toronto is back in the playoffs.

You picked the same teams as I did; I think I was 3/8 in the first round last year and none of the teams I picked made it past the second round... you're in trouble.

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Excellent. I have also blocked out that Toronto is back in the playoffs.

You picked the same teams as I did; I think I was 3/8 in the first round last year and none of the teams I picked made it past the second round... you're in trouble.
LOL. I cant believe I typed out TB instead of Toronto
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Penguins in 5
Habs in 7
Rangers in 6
Bruins in 7

Hawks in 4
Red Wings in 6
Sharks in 7
Kings in 6

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Hornquist re-signs in Nashville. $21.5 over 5 years.

Tis that time of the year.

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Wow, don't try to tell Pens fans their team has a potential flaw.

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Wow, don't try to tell Pens fans their team has a potential flaw.
I'm guessing you've recently spent some time in the playoffs thread?

Edit: Just doing a quick glance. I think I can easily say my favorite retort was Fleury being good now because he has a kid.


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I'm guessing you've recently spent some time in the playoffs thread?
Yeah. I suggested that Fleury is the Pens' x factor, as another meltdown or one of his random streaks of inconsistency can seriously damage them in a series. Doesn't seem unreasonable, because when Fleury plays off his game he's REALLY bad. According to several Pens fans, that's totally unreasonable. And Vokoun will fix everything...right. It's not like Vokoun would step in BEFORE the other teams wins games or scores boatloads of goals, right? And we all know how good goalie carousels are in the POs.

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I saw a Pens fan on another forum making the same point as you did, so they're not all in denial.

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Yeah. I suggested that Fleury is the Pens' x factor, as another meltdown or one of his random streaks of inconsistency can seriously damage them in a series. Doesn't seem unreasonable, because when Fleury plays off his game he's REALLY bad. According to several Pens fans, that's totally unreasonable. And Vokoun will fix everything...right. It's not like Vokoun would step in BEFORE the other teams wins games or scores boatloads of goals, right? And we all know how good goalie carousels are in the POs.
Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing more of this ...


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I saw a Pens fan on another forum making the same point as you did, so they're not all in denial.
Yeah, I actually arrived at that conclusion by discussing Pitt's team with a Pitt fan on FB. He's a die hard fan too, not a casual guy.

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20 mins til game time and Backstrom gets hurt

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The hockey gods spite Minnesota for beating out Columbus? Though I doubt even they wouldn't consciously throw Harding into that situation with his illness. I hope he lights it up, as bitter as I am about CBJ barely missing out.

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Huh? Did he pull a Briere?

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Haha, seriously?

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Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing more of this ...

The funniest thing about this was the amount of butt-hurt that came from their fan-base cause a lot of them didn't think it counted.

Hawks over Wild
Blues over Kings
Ducks over Red Wings
Canucks over Sharks

Pens over Islanders
Maple Leafs over Bruins
Rangers over Capitals
Sens over Canadiens

Everybody keep everybody updated on the playoff games you watch.

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Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing more of this ...

Don't post that with the benny hill theme on the Pens board, they cry.

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