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05-01-2013, 07:46 AM
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They may be professionals but they clearly arent experts if they think the Pens Isles series will be a blowout. Idiots.
Who said they think it will be a blowout? Winning in 7 is still winning. All they predicted is that Pittsburgh comes out of the series with the victory.

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05-01-2013, 07:59 AM
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It would be a huge upset if Detroit won that series, maybe as big as NYI beating Pitt. Maybe these "experts" dont really watch the games.
You don't know anything.

Even though Anaheim already won game 1. If Detroit won the series it would barely be an upset.

Pit vs NYI would be 5 times the upset.

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05-01-2013, 08:00 AM
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This is interesting, as this year, I've seen next to ZERO pundits picking a sweep in the first round (feel free to reduce this percentage slightly).

Is this a normal thing in the playoffs? I can't remember a time when they didn't predict at least one sweep in the opening rounds.
There was only ONE sweep all of last year.

Sweeps don't happen very often anymore.

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05-01-2013, 08:01 AM
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They may be professionals but they clearly arent experts if they think the Pens Isles series will be a blowout. Idiots.
Why? It should be.

A homer does not think so....

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Fair points. Didn't realize the Canucks weren't playing Ballard and Tanev. Still think the Detroit predictions were largely on name though.
Tanev is injured, and AV has completely destroyed Ballard. If he is playing it will be 4th line winger (no that's not a joke)

Tanev is a huge loss though, 2nd most consistent d-man this year after Garrison. That Edler-Bieksa pairing is going to be hilarious to watch

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05-01-2013, 09:13 AM
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Thanks.

I also feel just because someone is paid to do something doesn't make them an expert at it.
don't you include Dreger in that statement mister!!!



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05-01-2013, 09:23 AM
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Hoping NYI or Wild win their series.

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05-01-2013, 09:26 AM
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You don't know anything.

Even though Anaheim already won game 1. If Detroit won the series it would barely be an upset.

Pit vs NYI would be 5 times the upset.
Detroit is a shadow of their old team. Good example of this is how they got destroyed by Columbus this year. They were fortunate to even be in the playoffs. Anaheim hasnt been playing great lately, but yes, it would be still be an upset if Detroit won.

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05-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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Wow SJ is a favorite? They have 17 ROW's. That's less Carolina and Calgary and the same as Edmonton and Tampa.

They've pretty much won 1/3rd of their games that would be wins in the playoffs. There's no loser point/shootout in the playoffs.
They also didn't lose any of those games ... who is to say if they kept playing SJ wouldn't have won? That is a stupid argument on your part.

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05-01-2013, 11:21 AM
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I see a lot of "experts" picking Detroit on name value alone.
The Ducks are a different team than the first half of the season. I do not think they are as good as their seeding indicates. Although I don't think either of these two teams will make it past the second round.

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05-01-2013, 11:43 AM
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The real experts are the people that set betting lines. PIT & Hawks both -400

They have Ana at -125

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I picked Pitt in a sweep. Wanna fight about it?

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05-01-2013, 11:51 AM
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Thanks.

I also feel just because someone is paid to do something doesn't make them an expert at it.
No doubt. I think playing and being involved in the game for 20 years is what makes you an expert.

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I think that any 'expert' stating that needs to learn about the law of very large numbers. Regression to the mean isn't some karmic principle of statistics, and their usage of the term to suggest that is fallacious. In fairness to them, I see this more often with people that follow advanced stats, as laymen, than I do with most of the people doing work on the subject.
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Do advanced stats take into account history? Do they take into account a sniper vs a goalie that sits deep in the net?

No one picked the Caps vs the Bruins then the analysts turned around and decided Caps were going to take the East and then they lose Game 7.
I was just pointing something out. Never said i agreed with it.

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The Ducks are a different team than the first half of the season. I do not think they are as good as their seeding indicates. Although I don't think either of these two teams will make it past the second round.
I do not think the Sharks are as good as their seeding indicates either.

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Detroit is a shadow of their old team. Good example of this is how they got destroyed by Columbus this year. They were fortunate to even be in the playoffs. Anaheim hasnt been playing great lately, but yes, it would be still be an upset if Detroit won.
So losing a season series against Columbus means they are a shadow of their former team?

Give me a break. Anaheim is better but this series is a closer 2/7 matchup than most.

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05-01-2013, 02:53 PM
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I was just pointing something out. Never said i agreed with it.
I was just commenting on that sort of analysis. My comments weren't meant as a swipe at you. It was clear that you were divorcing yourself from those statements.

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05-01-2013, 02:55 PM
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I'm sincerely shocked that the Sharks won this thing 10-8. Wow.

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Bos-Tor makes me lol.

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I do not think the Sharks are as good as their seeding indicates either.
Sharks are probably the worst team in the playoffs so you are right. No idea what that has anything to do with what you quoted though. You seem upset someone on the internet doesn't think your team is the 2nd best team in the west.

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05-02-2013, 05:41 PM
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Detroit is a shadow of their old team. Good example of this is how they got destroyed by Columbus this year. They were fortunate to even be in the playoffs. Anaheim hasnt been playing great lately, but yes, it would be still be an upset if Detroit won.
Detroit's had a habit for many, many years to play down to their opposition. Even looking back at when the Wings had some incredibly dominant teams and the Central was a joke, they still often did not have a great record against the likes of Columbus.

It would be an upset if Detroit won the series, but really only of they did it in 4-5 games which looks extremely unlikely. Just like Sens-Habs these two teams are closer than their seeding indicates, while two teams like Boston-Toronto is much closer to a 2-7 matchup.

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people complaining about the sharks being the favorites in the 1st round.

it can't have anything to do with the sharks beating the canucks 3-0-0 this season while out scoring them 10-6 in the process.

same goes for the wings vs ducks, it can't have anything to do with the wings 2-1-0 record against the ducks.

some times you have to look past the standings.

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05-02-2013, 10:36 PM
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Detroit's had a habit for many, many years to play down to their opposition. Even looking back at when the Wings had some incredibly dominant teams and the Central was a joke, they still often did not have a great record against the likes of Columbus.

It would be an upset if Detroit won the series, but really only of they did it in 4-5 games which looks extremely unlikely. Just like Sens-Habs these two teams are closer than their seeding indicates, while two teams like Boston-Toronto is much closer to a 2-7 matchup.
Right now, the only teams which I would use the "upset" word for if they won are the Wild, Islanders, and Leafs. The first two for obvious reasons, and Toronto because of their history of losing big whenever they play Boston in the regular season.

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05-12-2013, 11:18 PM
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Looking to see how they did.


Penguins - Correct
Hawks - Correct
Bruins - Pending
Kings - Correct
Wings - Pending (but looking likely)
Sharks - Correct
Canadiens/Senators - Even
Capitals/Rangers - Pending/Even

4-0-1 right now, with 3 series left, unless Anaheim scores 2 goals in the 3rd, they'll be 5-0-1, and since they're even on Caps/Rag they're likely going to be 5-0-2, unless Toronto upsets the professionals will have had a perfect 1st round.

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05-12-2013, 11:48 PM
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They aren't terribly accurate. A lot of these are common sense. 18/18 Penguins assumes that people thought this series was a 4-game sweep when it went to 6 games. They really hsould have made them pick team + #of games otherwise this is just a common sense poll. Took the Sens 5 games to knock off the Habs and people thought it'd be closer then Bruins v Leafs which is on Game 7.

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