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04-30-2013, 07:20 PM
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No thanks.

Honestly... this offseason is going to be worse than Stamkos' RFA summer as far as the Trade boards go.
atleast we have the knowledge of knowing when it will all end: draft day.

Stammergedon didn't end until like August..

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Stars fan. I don't think this is enough.
Stars fan here as well, and I agree, even though Daley is better than most think.

If I were Tampa, I'd start listening if Dallas offered pretty strong prospect in addition to #10 and Daley.

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Keep the 2nd. If Fraser + Daley + 10th overall doesn't get it, then it's a big overpayment. Connauton + Daley + 10th overall could get it, too.
No thanks. Connauton's been tearing it up in the A. Would rather keep him.

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No thanks. Connauton's been tearing it up in the A. Would rather keep him.
We have 10000000 defensemen. We have 0 #1C. If Connauton is part of the price to move up to 3rd overall the Stars don't think twice about it.

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We have 10000000 defensemen. We have 0 #1C. If Connauton is part of the price to move up to 3rd overall the Stars don't think twice about it.
If they want someone like Connauton, then we might as well give them Gaunce.

1000000000 defensemen to give.

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If they want someone like Connauton, then we might as well give them Gaunce.

1000000000 defensemen to give.
We may have a significant amount of defense but we don't have a significant amount of top 4 defensemen. There is peices we can give up that don't include our only (Currently) #3 defensemen.

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We may have a significant amount of defense but we don't have a significant amount of top 4 defensemen. There is peices we can give up that don't include our only (Currently) #3 defensemen.
And that's also my point for the future. Connauton has the ability to take over that spot in the future, so why trade him over alllll the other guys.

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We may have a significant amount of defense but we don't have a significant amount of top 4 defensemen. There is peices we can give up that don't include our only (Currently) #3 defensemen.
We have too many small defensemen. Giving one up and replacing with a Hainsey/Scuderi/Regehr/Leopold makes sense for the balance of the defense, especially given the potential at the #3 pick.

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And that's also my point for the future. Connauton has the ability to take over that spot in the future, so why trade him over alllll the other guys.
TB has the 3rd overall, which we want. Therefore we are going to have to give them something that they want. If they aren't asking for Dillon or Oleksiak I don't think Stars fans should complain about anteing up Connauton.

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We have too many small defensemen. Giving one up and replacing with a Hainsey/Scuderi/Regehr/Leopold makes sense for the balance of the defense, especially given the potential at the #3 pick.



TB has the 3rd overall, which we want. Therefore we are going to have to give them something that they want. If they aren't asking for Dillon or Oleksiak I don't think Stars fans should complain about anteing up Connauton.
We do, but I don't think Daley should be the guy on the outs. I want to see Dillon paired with Daley next season or a future Oleksiak-Daley pairing. Daley may be small but he's our steadiest guy. I also think he's better than most of the guys you mentioned, who are quickly becoming washed up.

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Seriously cannot believe anyone barks at Connauton, Gaunce, or even Nemeth if it means Dallas gets Barkov. All three could be good NHL defenders. Unless Barkov has a catastrophic injury or just doesn't want to play in the NHL Barkov is a sure fire 1st or at worst 2nd line center.

2 number 4 defenseman for a 1st line center is easy math and a deal that should be made every freaking time, especially when you basically have no centers if Benn moves back to wing.

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And that's also my point for the future. Connauton has the ability to take over that spot in the future, so why trade him over alllll the other guys.
I don't think Connauton will ever be as good defensively as Daley is. I'm still not sold on him being an NHL player either.

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Seriously cannot believe anyone barks at Connauton, Gaunce, or even Nemeth if it means Dallas gets Barkov. All three could be good NHL defenders. Unless Barkov has a catastrophic injury or just doesn't want to play in the NHL Barkov is a sure fire 1st or at worst 2nd line center.

2 number 4 defenseman for a 1st line center is easy math and a deal that should be made every freaking time, especially when you basically have no centers if Benn moves back to wing.
The biggest problem seems other teams would not be willing to accept that.

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I don't think Connauton will ever be as good defensively as Daley is. I'm still not sold on him being an NHL player either.

The biggest problem seems other teams would not be willing to accept that.
That I agree with. Daley, Guance and the 10th for the 3rd probably isn't enough for Tampa. I think it starts with Loui for the 3rd + to even get them to think about passing on Drouin.

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That I agree with. Daley, Guance and the 10th for the 3rd probably isn't enough for Tampa. I think it starts with Loui for the 3rd + to even get them to think about passing on Drouin.
Let's hope we get Boston's first.

10th + BOS 1st + Larsen + Gaunce for 3rd.

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Let's hope we get Boston's first.

10th + BOS 1st + Larsen + Gaunce for 3rd.
This does not help us at all.

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That is absolutely horrendous for Dallas to give up just to get a pick.

Dallas should ultimately keep 10th, Boston's pick, and maybe, maybe trade Larsen for a 2nd or 3rd or a 3rd line winger if there's one to be had. Maybe Benoit Pouliot.

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05-01-2013, 04:35 PM
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That is absolutely horrendous for Dallas to give up just to get a pick.

Dallas should ultimately keep 10th, Boston's pick, and maybe, maybe trade Larsen for a 2nd or 3rd or a 3rd line winger if there's one to be had. Maybe Benoit Pouliot.
To move up 7 spots to get the #1C this team desperately needs? 3 assets that aren't current NHLers and 1 defenseman that had a brutal season is too much for Barkov?


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To move up 7 spots to get the #1C this team desperately needs? 3 assets that aren't current NHLers and 1 defenseman that had a brutal season is too much for Barkov?

Makes room on the blueline, we get what we want, AND retain our #3 Dman.

I don't get it either, bud!

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Let's hope we get Boston's first.

10th + BOS 1st + Larsen + Gaunce for 3rd.
That's a terrible deal for Tampa and they would never take it.

That said it's a fantastic deal for Dallas and Nill couldn't say yes fast enough.

That's the 10th, 20something, Larsen and Vincour for 3rd overall. Hell yes that's a slam dunk for Dallas.

Like I said the only way to interest Tampa is Oleksiak+ or Eriksson. Everything else is just a waste of time.

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Everyone who thinks we're getting TB's 3rd Overall pick with a bunch of spare parts is crazy.

10th + BOS 1st (if we even get it) + Larsen and Gaunce for 3rd overall is a pipedream.

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Everyone who thinks we're getting TB's 3rd Overall pick with a bunch of spare parts is crazy.

10th + BOS 1st (if we even get it) + Larsen and Gaunce for 3rd overall is a pipedream.
As is us actually trading all the way down to the 3rd. With that said, it sure would help their defensive depth.

Two 1sts, an NHL ready defenseman, and a good defensive prospect. It's not THAT bad.

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Two 1sts, an NHL ready defenseman, and a good defensive prospect. It's not THAT bad.
But not THAT good

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That's a terrible deal for Tampa and they would never take it.

That said it's a fantastic deal for Dallas and Nill couldn't say yes fast enough.

That's the 10th, 20something, Larsen and Vincour for 3rd overall. Hell yes that's a slam dunk for Dallas.

Like I said the only way to interest Tampa is Oleksiak+ or Eriksson. Everything else is just a waste of time.
If Smith was 26 and worth anything at all on the ice, I might do that. Unfortunately not.

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If they want someone like Connauton, then we might as well give them Gaunce.

1000000000 defensemen to give.
How are Connauton and Gaunce remotely comparable?

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As is us actually trading all the way down to the 3rd. With that said, it sure would help their defensive depth.

Two 1sts, an NHL ready defenseman, and a good defensive prospect. It's not THAT bad.
Is a package that is not THAT bad worth a prospect like Drouin? Tampa Bay doesn't think so. And what if Boson doesn't make the ECF? Kiss that 1st rounder goodbye and the package becomes 10th + BOS 2nd + Larsen + prospect. That's not enough to get the 3rd overall pick, and TB has no reason to give up that pick.

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I think 10th and Daley gets you 5,6,7 not 3.

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