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05-01-2013, 04:59 PM
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By mid season next year. Believe it. If the oilers flounder at all early Krueger is gone and Mact is 'interim' coach.
That is never going to happen. We will hire a new coach, MacT's coaching days, well coaching the Oilers are over. He will remain as a GM, that's about it.

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05-01-2013, 05:24 PM
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Just a reminder, that has **** all to do with him as a GM.
I'm questioning his ability to evaluate players and potential players. Isn't part of the job of a GM to go out and find players to draft and sign? Yeah sure he has scouts that provide him input and his coaching staff will have a lot of input as well, but ultimately it's MacT who's going to decide who to sign and not sign, and then actually sign them. MacT as a coach favoured players such as Reddox, Petersen, and Reasoner. Who's to say that he as a GM won't be looking to acquire players of a similar ilk?

Unless of course Lowe is ultimately the one in charge...

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05-01-2013, 05:25 PM
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That is never going to happen. We will hire a new coach, MacT's coaching days, well coaching the Oilers are over. He will remain as a GM, that's about it.
That means it'll be Bucky coaching the team

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05-02-2013, 03:18 AM
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The sad thing is that I can actually see this happening.
So could I especially if he's really high on Gagner.

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Ugh Bryan I know you're especially not a fan of Mac-T, but come on. He literally said they won't part easily with any of the kids because of how much they "suffered" to get them.

What do you want him to do with Gagner, say he's too small and has no future in Edmonton? Good luck getting value after that, geez

Edit: Mac-T knows what it's like to have nothing to work with by plugs upon plugs, but now he's going to piss away all the actual talent?
Trading away one of the big 5 doesn't mean that he pisses away all of the talent now does it? That said I hope that he keeps them and moves Gagner out, time will tell.

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05-02-2013, 04:18 AM
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Or they could hire a proven coach with nhl experience? I know, sounds silly, but it could work.
We should definitely do this. I hear Pat Quinn and Tom Renney are both available.

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05-02-2013, 08:44 AM
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Everyone says stupid **** from time to time, but I get fed up when people try to put MacT on a pedestal because they think that he's a borderline genius. If he follows his plan that he's laid out (one that quite frankly is common sense, not genius) then he should be at least an average GM. We'll see how things work out, I'm pulling for him because we'll need him to do his job at least decently to get us to a championship level.
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But if he doesn't, Ryan Smyth is apparently perfect for the job because he tries hard.
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That reeks of nepotism. If Smyth returns he had better enjoy riding the pine, because if he is an everyday player then nothing will have changed. My biggest fears are that Horcoff and Smyth return, he signs Gagner to a hefty long term deal. and that he deals Eberle or Nail for help. If that is what he does we are in for a world of hurt.
I would personally deem T-Funk as reeking of sarcasm as opposed to nepotism. I have to think he was laying it on pretty thick here. No rational human being can justify Ryan Smyths existence in the NHL.

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I would personally deem T-Funk as reeking of sarcasm as opposed to nepotism. I have to think he was laying it on pretty thick here. No rational human being can justify Ryan Smyths existence in the NHL.
Cam Barker and Kurtis Foster say "S'up guys"

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05-02-2013, 11:08 AM
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Mac T as some have previously stated will keep Kruger on a short leash. He said he will make the moves necessary so if Kruger doesn't deliver early I am sure replacement coach is already being scouted as we speak.

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Mac T as some have previously stated will keep Kruger on a short leash. He said he will make the moves necessary so if Kruger doesn't deliver early I am sure replacement coach is already being scouted as we speak.
Denis Savard short?

Let's hire Tippett as a pro scout just in case.

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I would personally deem T-Funk as reeking of sarcasm as opposed to nepotism. I have to think he was laying it on pretty thick here. No rational human being can justify Ryan Smyths existence in the NHL.
MacT's handling of Smyth reeks of nepotism, not T-Funk

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Denis Savard short?

Let's hire Tippett as a pro scout just in case.
Ruff would be another good choice as a pro scout

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Mac T as some have previously stated will keep Kruger on a short leash. He said he will make the moves necessary so if Kruger doesn't deliver early I am sure replacement coach is already being scouted as we speak.
If things go sideways, I'll bet Brent Sutter gets the call. If he wants to coach in the NHL again. He might not, he may want to stay around Red Deer. My 2nd guess would be a recently fired NHL coach, who is a really strong systems coach.

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Cam Barker and Kurtis Foster say "S'up guys"
I don't know if you are being rational? At least the both of them know they aren't worth $1M each compared to Smytty's $2.25M.

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Mac T as some have previously stated will keep Kruger on a short leash. He said he will make the moves necessary so if Kruger doesn't deliver early I am sure replacement coach is already being scouted as we speak.
Denis Savard short?

Let's hire Tippett as a pro scout just in case.

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Denis Savard short?

Let's hire Tippett as a pro scout just in case.
Let's not, so to avoid unwatchable garbage hockey.

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I don't know if you are being rational? At least the both of them know they aren't worth $1M each compared to Smytty's $2.25M.
, not arguing that, just saying he's not the "worst" player in the league. And this from a guy, me, who said he was DONE last January.

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Mac T says all the right things, most new GM's say all of the right things and few deliver. Talk is cheap and that's all this organization has had for 7 years. A whole bunch of blah blah blah blah. I'll give it a few years before I make any judgements on if Mac T is the right guy but like most fans of this team I am sick and tired of hearing all of the talk. Just show us some results for a change Please.

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MacT's handling of Smyth reeks of nepotism, not T-Funk
Are they related?

the word y'all are looking for is "cronyism".

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That is never going to happen. We will hire a new coach, MacT's coaching days, well coaching the Oilers are over. He will remain as a GM, that's about it.
I'll stand by my comments, you stand by yours, we'll see who is correct. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but it won't surprise me at all.

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05-02-2013, 03:36 PM
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Mac T says all the right things, most new GM's say all of the right things and few deliver. Talk is cheap and that's all this organization has had for 7 years. A whole bunch of blah blah blah blah. I'll give it a few years before I make any judgements on if Mac T is the right guy but like most fans of this team I am sick and tired of hearing all of the talk. Just show us some results for a change Please.
A few years?

MacT himself has promised immediate action, has said that he is impatient, and all that needs to be done is to add some effective complementary pieces.

One season.

If we are not in the playoffs, MacT (and Lowe) should be gonzo.

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I don't believe he can turn things around in one season. I'll give it two years. As long as Katz owns this team I don't see Lowe going anywhere.

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A few years?

MacT himself has promised immediate action, has said that he is impatient, and all that needs to be done is to add some effective complementary pieces.

One season.

If we are not in the playoffs, MacT (and Lowe) should be gonzo.
Ridiculous. The Oiler roster is not that close to being playoff competitive. Take a look at the St. Louis Blues and the LA Kings, how far away are the Oilers from beating either one of these teams in a seven game series?

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A few years?

MacT himself has promised immediate action, has said that he is impatient, and all that needs to be done is to add some effective complementary pieces.

One season.

If we are not in the playoffs, MacT (and Lowe) should be gonzo.
You expect the oilers to go under such a big change, and then think they should be fired if they do not make the playoffs.

Wow. Talk about crucifying the guy before ANYTHING happens.

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Ridiculous. The Oiler roster is not that close to being playoff competitive. Take a look at the St. Louis Blues and the LA Kings, how far away are the Oilers from beating either one of these teams in a seven game series?
No one is talking about becoming a contender but the Oilers roster could potentially beat out the likes of Detroit, Minnesota, San Jose for a playoff spot if our big 5 continue to develop and MacT makes the proper moves.

This team lacks an effective bottom 6 and it's quite obvious. The thing with St.Louis and LA is that they have a very effective bottom 6 and they are a threat to score at all times, play gritty and can match up against other teams top lines. The Oilers don't have that. If the kids aren't scoring, no one is. If the kids are scoring, that is when we see our bottom 6 chip in. As much as people bash Horcoff, I think he is fine if played in a third line role with the right players. I'm excited to see what MacT does. Bringing in role players is a lot easier than bringing in star players (Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yak and Schultz).

However, I do agree that the one season statement is ridiculous. I'm willing to give MacT a 2-3 years.

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