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i'm not from edmonton, but from reading this thread there are LOTS of people giving you restaurant ideas, but you just seem to be ignoring them
Bistro Praha (I actually named that one) and Ruth Chris are the only two restaurants specifically mentioned in the thread. By all means name names so I have a clue that some restaurant actually exists on a Sunday after 10.
If you know of any RESTAURANTS open late please let me know.

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05-02-2013, 10:44 AM
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Bistro Praha on RHW used to be a fine place and a regular gathering point post theatre. The new location is bland, no atmosphere, and not at all the same feeling. Gone is a European atmosphere that fed the place.

As a rule (and for good reason) I don't go to bars or nightclubs period. I don't go to any establishment in Edmonton where the express purpose is drinking. Been there, done that, learned from it.

Not sure which specifically you are referring to. Which restaurants? Ruth Chris btw way being an awful steak place. Good for anybody that wants butter marinated steak I guess. I can get a better steak almost anywhere.

I get accosted more for money in a two block walk ANYTIME downtown virtually anywhere I go. Not sure what great distinction you are making with that.

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05-02-2013, 10:49 AM
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They used to be here in this very same city. In the 70's late night dining downtown was a rule. Edmonton had a vibrant, varied, downtown nightlife at that time. People would be quite surprised.

I don't want the white cloths either ftr. Just a decent restaurant open late.

If I go to Montreal, Vancouver, even Calgary, I have no trouble getting a table at a decent restaurant late at night.
Maybe you should open one up, because you seem to have issues with everything. You listed a place you wanted to go to that is open til midnight, but now complain about it.

Like Moose said very few places are open after 10 on Sunday in this city. There is probably a reason for this.

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Not sure what it is about seeing friends stabbed and attacked in Edmonton nightspots that makes me the target of such ridicule.

Learned common sense to stay away from Edmonton's drinking holes more than anything.

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They used to be here in this very same city. In the 70's late night dining downtown was a rule. Edmonton had a vibrant, varied, downtown nightlife at that time. People would be quite surprised.
And you were 40 years younger then, so your perceptions and tastes have probably shifted.

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I listed a few. You won't like them, but they are there.

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On a Sunday night in the heart of downtown? Examples?

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05-02-2013, 10:50 AM
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Bistro Praha (I actually named that one) and Ruth Chris are the only two restaurants specifically mentioned in the thread. By all means name names so I have a clue that some restaurant actually exists on a Sunday after 10.
If you know of any RESTAURANTS open late please let me know.
"i'm not from edmonton".... so yeah, i have no idea about restaurants, like i said in my first post... i just mentioned that it seems people are giving you places to eat and you keep saying "that one doesn't fit my per-determined exact specifications for what i'm looking for", lol... it appears that there are lots of places to eat, but you're just being exceedingly picky... for the record, i've eaten at plenty of pubs that had *really* good food that wasn't typical "pub food fare"

anyway, i think the whole point of what exists right now doesn't matter... the idea is that more places will open in the area because of the arena, this only makes sense with 15,000 extra people within walking distance 200 times/year... some of these new places might be the type of restaurant you are looking for.... but truth be told, most of the new places will likely be pubs and such

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So with amusement I note few if any restaurants open late being mentioned.

A recap of the sidebar thus far:

Oscar: People can go to places after a game downtown, they can't around Rexall.

Replacement: Very few restaurants are open late downtown. (mentions Bistro Praha)

Thread: Theres tons of places to go late at night, no there isn't, yes there is...

Replacement: Name some?

Thread: Ruth Chris. (Closed early on Sundays, hmmm

Thread: People are telling you lots of places, you don't want to hear any..

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Not sure what it is about seeing friends stabbed and attacked in Edmonton nightspots that makes me the target of such ridicule.

Learned common sense to stay away from Edmonton's drinking holes more than anything.
What's a "drinking hole?"

And I wasn't mocking your decision to stay away from bars. More the attitude that things were so much livelier on Sunday nights back in the day.

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And you were 40 years younger then, so your perceptions and tastes have probably shifted.



I listed a few. You won't like them, but they are there.



On a Sunday night in the heart of downtown? Examples?
Where did you list this? Didn't see your post, looked back and didn't see it. Whoops, missed it buried in a post. The common is a pub. So no, not a restaurant. MRKT I'd feel ancient in I guess. Never heard of the other place you mention.

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What's a "drinking hole?"

And I wasn't mocking your decision to stay away from bars. More the attitude that things were so much livelier on Sunday nights back in the day.
They absolutely were. Any night.

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Where did you list this? Didn't see your post, looked back and didn't see it. Whoops, missed it buried in a post. The common is a pub. So no, not a restaurant. MRKT I'd feel ancient in I guess. Never heard of the other place you mention.
So you don't want fine dining. You don't want pubs (even though pubs like Red Star and the Common are cranking out far far superior grub to a better class of clientele than the slop you are willing to settle for at BPs). You don't want chains. And the places that are open late (eg Praha), you don't like anymore. So basically, we can conclude that the problem isn't a lack of options, it's a lack of options serving a particular demographic of one.

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Not sure what it is about seeing friends stabbed and attacked in Edmonton nightspots that makes me the target of such ridicule.

Learned common sense to stay away from Edmonton's drinking holes more than anything.
There is a great difference in a "nightspot" and "drinking hole" than a tap house or pub for an older crowd. I find it amusing your beef with downtown has to do with BP's where they thrive on a younger crowd hitting up their pubs for schooners.

The places listed are far more relaxed than the ones you want to go to, yet label them as nightspots and drinking holes.

You basically are looking for a Kelsey's that is open until 2AM on a Sunday night in the heart of downtown...

Good luck in any city with that.

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05-02-2013, 11:15 AM
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So with amusement I note few if any restaurants open late being mentioned.

A recap of the sidebar thus far:

Oscar: People can go to places after a game downtown, they can't around Rexall.

Replacement: Very few restaurants are open late downtown. (mentions Bistro Praha)

Thread: Theres tons of places to go late at night, no there isn't, yes there is...

Replacement: Name some?

Thread: Ruth Chris. (Closed early on Sundays, hmmm

Thread: People are telling you lots of places, you don't want to hear any..
Lots of places listed, you ignore or just write off without having ever been to. So yeah, you're not listening to what people are suggesting for you.

Either way, you're far too picky if you can't find something to your taste downtown. The majority of people will find their spot after a game.

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So with amusement I note few if any restaurants open late being mentioned.

A recap of the sidebar thus far:

Oscar: People can go to places after a game downtown, they can't around Rexall.

Replacement: Very few restaurants are open late downtown. (mentions Bistro Praha)

Thread: Theres tons of places to go late at night, no there isn't, yes there is...

Replacement: Name some?

Thread: Ruth Chris. (Closed early on Sundays, hmmm

Thread: People are telling you lots of places, you don't want to hear any..
most people arent going out after a game ie. 10:30-11PM to have smoked salmon and caviar. they want to have a few more drinks and maybe some nachos. Most people will hit a restraunt before the game, pub/bar after. Catering to the demographic of over 40 and wants a steak at 11pm crowd will be the end of a business.


also i heard you mention calagry, within literally 3 minutes there are 3 casinos, one of which has 3 resteraunts and a nightclub in it. thats before you even get out of the stampede ground area.

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So you don't want fine dining. You don't want pubs (even though pubs like Red Star and the Common are cranking out far far superior grub to a better class of clientele than the slop you are willing to settle for at BPs). You don't want chains. And the places that are open late (eg Praha), you don't like anymore. So basically, we can conclude that the problem isn't a lack of options, it's a lack of options serving a particular demographic of one.



Ok where?
Off the top of my head: Waldens, Mother Tuckers, Steakloft, Carvery, Boccolinos, Beachcomber, Pacific Fish company. Many more.

Even the places on the Boardwalk and RHW were open later back then.

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most people arent going out after a game ie. 10:30-11PM to have smoked salmon and caviar. they want to have a few more drinks and maybe some nachos. Most people will hit a restraunt before the game, pub/bar after. Catering to the demographic of over 40 and wants a steak at 11pm crowd will be the end of a business.


also i heard you mention calagry, within literally 3 minutes there are 3 casinos, one of which has 3 resteraunts and a nightclub in it. thats before you even get out of the stampede ground area.
I stated I have no trouble finding a late night restaurant in downtown Calgary. I do in Edmonton. People are mentioning pubs while pretending they are restaurants. When I state I don't want to go to a pub I'm "too picky" OK....

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Lots of places listed, you ignore or just write off without having ever been to. So yeah, you're not listening to what people are suggesting for you.

Either way, you're far too picky if you can't find something to your taste downtown. The majority of people will find their spot after a game.
So why don't they now in that case? Games go on near downtown, thousands of patrons of Oilers game go right by downtown on LRT headed for southside. Yet if you are on one of those trains you note virtually nobody getting off downtown post game.

Looks like maybe there isn't much appeal downtown.

Hell for a decent steak after an event at Rexall I'd have to go all the way to Bistecca at Century Park or just walk to Coliseum Steak and Pizza. Not sure where people got the notion I'm a picky eater at all. I just want a decent restaurant, not pub, to go to. Thats it.

People eat steak here in Alberta. They do actually.

One of the specific problems with downtown Edmonton is it doesn't cater to an Edmonton demographic. Corso32? lol. Meanwhile, the rest of Edmonton, who see very little reason to go downtown, end up spending their money closer to home in confines that more suit their tastes. Ironically, I recently went to a Cowboy Junkies concert in St Albert and found more appealing restaurants to go to in immediate vicinity downtown St Albert then in Edmonton. Not surprisingly people from St Albert are patrons of their downtown.


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OK that is enough of that. This is getting really far off topic. Back to the arena folks.

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What magical place are people expecting from our downtown? Constantly I read on this board about restaurants and bars and places for people to visit. Yet having lived and worked in it for the last eighteen years, the place is completely different than what it was. It is a place where you can now buy groceries, where vast empty space have been turned into buildings, where other buildings have been gutted and renovated (I hope to see more of that).

It is a more liveable place, becoming easier to exist without a vehicle. Sections are going to continue to be office towers, but having people here all the time is what has turned the place about, not by creating a place where people stay longer when they visit.

The arena may help with continued growth, but nobody better tout it for changing the downtown, that is happening on its own.

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Good thing you've been paying attention over this whole ordeal. River Cree offered to help out with an arena out there a while back. Around 2 years ago if I remember correctly.

On another not, does anyone on here actually argue their points like an adult anymore, or is everyone just devolving to the 14 year old girl style of argument on both sides. "OMG this is going to happen like this, because so and so never does anything right". It's pretty damned sad.
Care to clarify what "help out " means?
I dont recall the Enoch Cree Nation saying they would commit 100's of millions, but hey Champ, you may have inside info.

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Just from memory, but river cree only offered their land as a possibility of having the arena. Pricetag also wouldn't be 450 million if it was built out there.

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So is the arena plans finalized yet? If someone could answer so that I don't have to wade through pages of where to eat in Edmonton at 10PM on a Sunday night it'd be greatly appreciated.

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I don't recall the Cree discussing a building for a NHL team, but they were interested in building a ~10K seat arena for a WHL team, MMA, boxing and concerts. When the Oil Kings were bought by the Oilers and it was obvious they weren't leaving Rexall they had discussed a smaller arena ~6K.

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So is the arena plans finalized yet? If someone could answer so that I don't have to wade through pages of where to eat in Edmonton at 10PM on a Sunday night it'd be greatly appreciated.
The master agreement is going to council next Wednesday. Despite the fact that Mayor Mandel keeps promising that the province will make up the shortfall he keeps getting rebuked. Because of that David Staples seems to think that council is going to vote against moving forward on Wednesday because they don't have a back-up plan for the remaining 55 million. Staples seems to be the only one talking about the deal failing so we'll wee what happens.

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