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04-30-2013, 06:27 PM
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according to his elite prospects page he's got 181 (not counting playoffs) games in the KHL under his belt. getting a 21 year old with that much pro experience would be great. he doesn't seem like much of a point producer, only 25 pts in that span.

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04-30-2013, 06:42 PM
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according to his elite prospects page he's got 181 (not counting playoffs) games in the KHL under his belt. getting a 21 year old with that much pro experience would be great. he doesn't seem like much of a point producer, only 25 pts in that span.
How is that among KHL defenders?

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04-30-2013, 06:57 PM
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How is that among KHL defenders?
At his age? Really good. Not many 17-18 yr olds in the KHL.

EDIT: Looking at the next post, maybe you meant points? I doubt he becomes a big point producer though. His main pro's are his smarts, and first pass. Also has good positioning. I don't think he will be a big point guy though but he is also only 21 so.


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04-30-2013, 06:58 PM
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How is that among KHL defenders?
well apparently he got 18 of those 25 pts in his 49 games played this year as a 21 year old which is a big improvement from previous years obviously, i wasn't aware of that. This year the top 5 point producers among defenders in the KHL put up 42, 39, 35, 34 and 31 pts. going back a few yrs it seems the top 5 are in the mid 30's on average. so 18 isn't great but for a 21 yo obviously still improving it's actually pretty damn good. i should've paid better attention to the breakdown of his stats.

if he were to become a flyers, he continues to improve his offensive game and the team continues to play this offensive style i don't think it's a stretch to say he puts up 30+ points once he gets used to things. i'm totally talking out of my ass here though


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04-30-2013, 11:08 PM
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any news out there anyone hear anything ?

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well apparently he got 18 of those 25 pts in his 49 games played this year as a 21 year old which is a big improvement from previous years obviously, i wasn't aware of that. This year the top 5 point producers among defenders in the KHL put up 42, 39, 35, 34 and 31 pts. going back a few yrs it seems the top 5 are in the mid 30's on average. so 18 isn't great but for a 21 yo obviously still improving it's actually pretty damn good. i should've paid better attention to the breakdown of his stats.

if he were to become a flyers, he continues to improve his offensive game and the team continues to play this offensive style i don't think it's a stretch to say he puts up 30+ points once he gets used to things. i'm totally talking out of my ass here though
Haha I think that's all anyone can do at this point. I've read some promising things about him that I think will translate well to the nhl. I'd love to get him and start to potentially remake this D. I think it was shown that this combo works less than a group of rookies. Not saying that's what we go with just that coburn needs to go

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I hope he signs soon or I am going to waste countless hours looking up the guy and seeing if he signs every day until the draft. This is going to be a loooooooong offseason.

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for some reason I imagine this guy with the contract on his kitchen table, and he's just sitting there staring at it while the rest of us just wait, wait, and wait

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I'd imagine that he would be waiting at least a little while to see whether he receives other offers. I have to think that his camp may have played a role in releasing the information that the Flyers had made an offer already.

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There's no pressure on him to sign immediately if he makes Russia's WC team.

I'd guess we'll see a decision when that wraps up, rather than now.

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At his age? Really good. Not many 17-18 yr olds in the KHL.

EDIT: Looking at the next post, maybe you meant points? I doubt he becomes a big point producer though. His main pro's are his smarts, and first pass. Also has good positioning. I don't think he will be a big point guy though but he is also only 21 so.
Yeah I was looking more for how KHL defenders point totals look. Some of those Euro Leagues are very low scoring. I know the KHL isn't necessarily one of them, but idk if defenders over there are more defensive or what.

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well apparently he got 18 of those 25 pts in his 49 games played this year as a 21 year old which is a big improvement from previous years obviously, i wasn't aware of that. This year the top 5 point producers among defenders in the KHL put up 42, 39, 35, 34 and 31 pts. going back a few yrs it seems the top 5 are in the mid 30's on average. so 18 isn't great but for a 21 yo obviously still improving it's actually pretty damn good. i should've paid better attention to the breakdown of his stats.

if he were to become a flyers, he continues to improve his offensive game and the team continues to play this offensive style i don't think it's a stretch to say he puts up 30+ points once he gets used to things. i'm totally talking out of my ass here though
This post is exactly what I was looking for. Certainly doesn't seem like it would be a bad idea to nab this guy.

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05-01-2013, 10:27 AM
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Sibir traded him to CSKA Moscow, "I asked Sibir to trade me to CSKA," he said.

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"I sincerely thank the club and the fans Sibir Novosibirsk for the support and opportunity for 4 seasons to be in a team, develop and achieve good results - said in his address Nikita - but the goals that I put in front of him, require a change in the club this stage of my career. I myself appealed to the leadership and the founders of the club Siberia asking me to exchange, and it is desirable to CSKA. I am very pleased that the two clubs have managed to find a mutually beneficial option, and this exchange took place. Once again I want to thank everyone who voted for me sick and upset. Probably during his sports career I will have to change more than one club, but I will always remember that it is the "Siberia" made ​​me a professional hockey player! ".
http://hcsibir.ru/forum/showthread.p...624#post536624


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05-01-2013, 10:34 AM
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Sibir traded him to CSKA Moscow, "I asked Sibir to trade me to CSKA," he said. Nikita, welcome to CSKA organisation!
That doesn't sound promising.

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05-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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Sibir traded him to CSKA Moscow, "I asked Sibir to trade me to CSKA," he said. Nikita, welcome to CSKA organisation!
this would suck

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Is it possible that the agent was simply using the prospect of NHL interest to try to leverage a deal to a larger KHL club?

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Is it possible that the agent was simply using the prospect of NHL interest to try to leverage a deal to a larger KHL club?
Probably. He is still young and could come over eventually but doesn't look like anytime soon.

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what a kick in the nuts. i mean i wasn't penciling him in but i thought there was a legit chance he could actually be a flyer.

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05-01-2013, 10:54 AM
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Sibir traded him to CSKA Moscow, "I asked Sibir to trade me to CSKA," he said.

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I see your Zaitsev and raise you a Nichushkin

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05-01-2013, 11:02 AM
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Aww sucks. Ya chances of him signing now are close to zero I would say

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The pure suckitude of 2013 continues. Not only can the team not win when it mattered / win when they shouldn't have, but they scored a big 0 in attracting potential high-profile quality talent outside of the draft. Losing out to other NHL teams is one thing, but Holmgren is now losing out to the KHL.

Call me bitter, but I'm definitely voting Zaitsev sick and upset now!

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I thought Anthony San Fillipo stated that the Flyers never offered Zaitsev a contract.

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I thought Anthony San Fillipo stated that the Flyers never offered Zaitsev a contract.
I think he said the Flyers havent announced anything. It wasnt like they were going to though before 04/30

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Maybe he has a soft spot for his first team, and asked for a trade so they get something in return for him, and now will sign with the Flyers?

The utmost optimism, i know.

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Maybe he has a soft spot for his first team, and asked for a trade so they get something in return for him, and now will sign with the Flyers?

The utmost optimism, i know.
Bryz for Zaytsev?

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Bryz for Zaytsev?
Deal.

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