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05-01-2013, 11:06 PM
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Some rumors has it that Hemsky and the 7th OA Pick is going to Phoenix in exchange for Yandle and 12th OA Pick. Oilers 2nd pick is also going to the Dogs along with Ewanyk and Musil in exchange for Sammuelson and Connor Murphy. The Oilers want Lazar with the 12th pick. Just a rumor I read.

Yandle
Sammuelson
Connor Murphy
Phoenix 12th OA pick (Oilers take Lazar)

Edmonton 7th OA pick
Hemsky
Musil
Ewanyk
Oilers 2nd Round Pick (37th OA)
Hilariously awful for Phoenix.

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05-02-2013, 01:50 AM
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Hilariously awful for Phoenix.
Monohan is who I want at 7th overall, but he plays a style of game that I think would fit very much into the kind of style Phoenix is trying to build around. A much simpler trade would be 7th overall (if Monohan is still available) for 12th overall (Lazar should still be available) and Henrik Samuelsson .

A late 1st round pick is pretty reasonable to expect to move up from 12th to 7th overall the only problem is I think Samuelsson did some good things this year and may have elevated his status a little bit and I think the Phoenix organization is just as high on him as the Oilers organization is. Oilers being able to reunite a whole Oil Kings line would likely appeal to some in the Oilers organization.

Personally I'd lean to just drafting Monohan ourselves (if available), but it's a deal I would consider for sure.

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05-02-2013, 03:14 AM
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Honeslty, I am a Leaf Fan and I dont think that Gardiner alone could net us the 7th overall pick in a deep draft. That is why I added Kulemin and an Edmonton future 2nd round pick. Edmonton was looking to acquire Kulemin early in the season for a 2nd round pick after he had a career low season. His value IMO has increased this year. Not to the point of the year before last but a decent value none the less for Edmonton. So the added value of Kulemin, who would work amazingly with Yakupov should get the deal done IMO. I honestly think it works for both teams.
Tbh gards couldn't get us 3rd overall, but he could get us 7th. And if kulemin is involved I'd say nty, would rather trade gards+kulemin for couterier if they weren't looking for a 1 for 1 swap.

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05-02-2013, 06:54 AM
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Tbh gards couldn't get us 3rd overall, but he could get us 7th.
I'd say you're dreaming. Why would Edmonton, or any team, give up that high of a pick for Jake Gardiner?

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05-02-2013, 07:22 AM
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Monohan is who I want at 7th overall, but he plays a style of game that I think would fit very much into the kind of style Phoenix is trying to build around. A much simpler trade would be 7th overall (if Monohan is still available) for 12th overall (Lazar should still be available) and Henrik Samuelsson .

A late 1st round pick is pretty reasonable to expect to move up from 12th to 7th overall the only problem is I think Samuelsson did some good things this year and may have elevated his status a little bit and I think the Phoenix organization is just as high on him as the Oilers organization is. Oilers being able to reunite a whole Oil Kings line would likely appeal to some in the Oilers organization.

Personally I'd lean to just drafting Monohan ourselves (if available), but it's a deal I would consider for sure.
I love Monahan but wouldn't deal Yandle for him alone let alone include a package consisting of Samuellson and our 1st. I don't want this to revert to yet another Yandle to the Oilers thread so I'm just going to say that the posted non-sourced "rumour" is of no interest.

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05-02-2013, 12:09 PM
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That's a ridiculous overpayment from the Flames.
To get another top 10 guaranteed pic, you gotta make that overpayment. I wonder what if oilers asking for your pic, one of our big four + 7th overall + +, how does that sounds like

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05-02-2013, 02:31 PM
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To WPG:
7th Overall
Jeff Petry

to EDM
13th Overall
Zach Bogosian

or...

To PHX
7th Overall
ANH 2nd

To EDM
12th Overall
Brandon Gormley
PHX 2nd

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05-02-2013, 04:50 PM
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To WPG:
7th Overall
Jeff Petry

to EDM
13th Overall
Zach Bogosian

or...

To PHX
7th Overall
ANH 2nd

To EDM
12th Overall
Brandon Gormley
PHX 2nd
Gormley is worth the 7th pick, Maloney won't over pay just to move up 5 spots in the draft.

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05-02-2013, 05:08 PM
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Huge no thanks from Winnipeg.


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To WPG:
7th Overall
Jeff Petry

to EDM
13th Overall
Zach Bogosian

or...

To PHX
7th Overall
ANH 2nd

To EDM
12th Overall
Brandon Gormley
PHX 2nd

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05-02-2013, 05:25 PM
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Huge no thanks from Winnipeg.
That's probably fair. Winnipeg is more in a win now mode. Likely whomever is picked 7th will be the best player in this trade but I don't think Winnipeg wants to wait for that.

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05-02-2013, 08:34 PM
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That's probably fair. Winnipeg is more in a win now mode. Likely whomever is picked 7th will be the best player in this trade but I don't think Winnipeg wants to wait for that.
The player at 7 could be the best player, or it could also be the guy at 13. Both are no guarantees to be better than Bogosian. And going from 13 to 7 is no where near worth it if we had to go from Bogo to Petry.

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05-02-2013, 08:36 PM
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To NAS:

EDM 2013 1st (7th ovr.)
ANA 2013 2nd
RW, Ales Hemsky

To EDM:

NAS 2013 1st (4th ovr.)

Would that be an alright trade? If NAS say no, throw in EDM 2013 2nd? If they have one, I'm not sure.


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05-02-2013, 08:47 PM
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To NAS:

EDM 2013 1st (7th ovr.)
ANA 2013 2nd
RW, Ales Hemsky

To EDM:

NAS 2013 1st (4th ovr.)

Would that be an alright trade? If NAS say no, throw in EDM 2013 2nd? If they have one, I'm not sure.
Change it to Edm pick and this is actually really good. Trade Gagner for a D man then

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05-02-2013, 09:46 PM
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To NAS:

EDM 2013 1st (7th ovr.)
ANA 2013 2nd
RW, Ales Hemsky

To EDM:

NAS 2013 1st (4th ovr.)

Would that be an alright trade? If NAS say no, throw in EDM 2013 2nd? If they have one, I'm not sure.
Seems like a huge overpayment to move up 3 spots unless the assumption is Hemsky has zero or negative value (common on these boards).

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05-02-2013, 10:05 PM
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Seems like a huge overpayment to move up 3 spots unless the assumption is Hemsky has zero or negative value (common on these boards).
Too get a guy like Barkov it's worth it

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05-02-2013, 10:10 PM
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Price + 3rd for Dubnyk + edm 1st + 2nd

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05-03-2013, 12:21 AM
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Price + 3rd for Dubnyk + edm 1st + 2nd
whaaaat?!??! Really?????!?

.916, .914, .921, .923, .916, .905

Those are their spct over the last 3 years as starters... Whose are whose? Tough to pick right?

And yet the difference between them (other than several million dollars/yr) is a #7 overall in a deep draft + more?

Dumba, Scheifle, Skinner, Kadri, Wilson, Voracek... those are good players available in the last few years at 7. By all accounts, the player there this year will be of the same ilk or better (Nurse, Monahan, etc).

And I've got to give you the difference between our high 2nd and your late 3rd?

Just silly.

Counter: Dubnyk + Hemsky for Price + 2nd 2014

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05-03-2013, 06:25 AM
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Price + 3rd for Dubnyk + edm 1st + 2nd
Oilers do it without thinking.

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05-03-2013, 06:26 AM
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EDM 2013 1st (7th ovr.)
ANA 2013 2nd
RW, Ales Hemsky

To EDM:

NAS 2013 1st (4th ovr.)

Would that be an alright trade? If NAS say no, throw in EDM 2013 2nd? If they have one, I'm not sure.
Oilers do it without thinking.

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05-03-2013, 11:31 AM
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Seems like a huge overpayment to move up 3 spots unless the assumption is Hemsky has zero or negative value (common on these boards).
If it ensures Edmonton gets Barkov, it's worth it. Hemsky is as good as gone in Edmonton and I have no problem moving the second rounders.

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05-03-2013, 11:50 AM
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Change it to Edm pick and this is actually really good. Trade Gagner for a D man then
Can't trade Gagner. We won't have a single top six center to start the season next year. As good of prospects as these are, the only ones that might be able to handle top six minutes (or top 4 as a d-man) are the ones who will be drafted top 3, and Nichushkin (sp?) who isn't coming next year due to his KHL contract.

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Oilers do it without thinking.
No they don't. I don't think they move their first to upgrade goaltending (even if it is a guy like Price) when they have much more serious issues with d-men and centers and we could get a Barkov/Monahan/Nurse type prospect with the pick alone. If we trade this pick, its to get a top pair d-man to play with J. Schultz next year. Not a goalie. Not a winger.

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05-03-2013, 11:54 AM
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Too get a guy like Barkov it's worth it
I don't know if it is. Monahan and Nurse are just as good of prospects as Barkov. I`d say that, for example, Monahan and a depth d-man or grinder would be more important to our team than Barkov alone.

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To NAS:

EDM 2013 1st (7th ovr.)
ANA 2013 2nd
RW, Ales Hemsky

To EDM:

NAS 2013 1st (4th ovr.)

Would that be an alright trade? If NAS say no, throw in EDM 2013 2nd? If they have one, I'm not sure.
I like this.

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Change it to Edm pick and this is actually really good. Trade Gagner for a D man then
Giving up our own 2nd is not as appealing; seems like too much. If NAS could add a small piece (3rd, B-prospect, etc.) I think that could work.

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Price + 3rd for Dubnyk + edm 1st + 2nd
EDM at least seriously considers this, no matter what bucks_oil thinks. Sure, Dubnyk's stats are similar recently, but I have watched enough of both players to know I take Price in a heartbeat.

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05-03-2013, 05:36 PM
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Posted this earlier:

MPS + 7th overall for Pavelski

Edmonton needs a veteren leader in their top 6 that can center a 1B line. Pavelski is an elite 1B center whith a competitive streak a mile long (still in his 20s). Would add much more to the Oil core than his incredible skill. Thoughts?

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