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05-02-2013, 02:24 PM
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What joke not having Yakupov invited. I've always found Russian coaching decisions quite bizarre. Loktionov going but not Yak?

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05-02-2013, 02:32 PM
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What joke not having Yakupov invited. I've always found Russian coaching decisions quite bizarre. Loktionov going but not Yak?
Every International competition I've seen him play in he think he's like Bure trying to beat 3 guys alone (instead of passing), and usually results in lots of turn overs.

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05-02-2013, 02:36 PM
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since when is Yak a center? and if not how could he take Loktionov's place on that roster?

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Every International competition I've seen him play in he think he's like Bure trying to beat 3 guys alone (instead of passing), and usually results in lots of turn overs.
I think he learned a lot playing with the Oil this year...
When he started, he did nearly the same thing, but learned to make some nice passing plays.

I don't think the Soviets watched the Yak in the NHL.

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05-02-2013, 04:50 PM
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I think he learned a lot playing with the Oil this year...
When he started, he did nearly the same thing, but learned to make some nice passing plays.

I don't think the Soviets watched the Yak in the NHL.
To be honest I watched only the early games in the season from the Oilers, so I'll trust ya that he's gotten better during the season

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05-02-2013, 07:03 PM
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What joke not having Yakupov invited. I've always found Russian coaching decisions quite bizarre. Loktionov going but not Yak?
Have you seen Loktionov play this year ?? Not saying he is better then Yak, but there are others he could be in over.

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05-02-2013, 08:20 PM
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after WJC i gladely keep Yakupov on vaca. Show me that you have learned your lesson first. And yeah, in more than last 5-7 games of the season.

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05-02-2013, 10:17 PM
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after WJC i gladely keep Yakupov on vaca. Show me that you have learned your lesson first. And yeah, in more than last 5-7 games of the season.
Yup, he was a poor producer in WJC when given the role of a leader.

It does sound ridiculous to take Yakupov just because he had a handful of good games. Some of them were meaningless. What about the drought that he went through? I think Bill summed it best when he said that Yakupov was not considered. That tells you what the experts think of him with regards to NT at this point.

I know he doesn't get much ice time for Edmonton, but then why should he get ANY ice time for NT? He clearly isn't gaining leadership experience and his inconsistency is a mark of a young player and not a well seasoned pro.

Loktionov on the other hand, was a good 2-way player centering for Kovalchuk and was a steady produced without big gaps between points. He is also much more mature and experienced than Yakupov.

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05-03-2013, 12:00 AM
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i agree though yapukov should be there

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05-03-2013, 01:59 AM
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Yup, he was a poor producer in WJC when given the role of a leader.

It does sound ridiculous to take Yakupov just because he had a handful of good games. Some of them were meaningless. What about the drought that he went through? I think Bill summed it best when he said that Yakupov was not considered. That tells you what the experts think of him with regards to NT at this point.

I know he doesn't get much ice time for Edmonton, but then why should he get ANY ice time for NT? He clearly isn't gaining leadership experience and his inconsistency is a mark of a young player and not a well seasoned pro.

Loktionov on the other hand, was a good 2-way player centering for Kovalchuk and was a steady produced without big gaps between points. He is also much more mature and experienced than Yakupov.
in the last ten games he's benched and had one point. i wouldn't call him consistent though i agree he was consistently mediocre in the ahl. he is in the roster not because he's so good but because there are simlpy no good centers to choose from

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05-03-2013, 02:26 AM
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I don't think the Soviets watched the Yak in the NHL.
Would Yakupov be effective as a checking line winger? Because #1RW spot is booked by Radulov, and both #2 and #3 lines are actually trios with decent chemistry (Petrov and Perezhogin also have already shown to be effective under Bilyaletdinov). Also, would Yakupov be effective without a RNH caliber center?

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in the last ten games he's benched and had one point. i wouldn't call him consistent though i agree he was consistently mediocre in the ahl. he is in the roster not because he's so good but because there are simlpy no good centers to choose from
I can swear he's only on the team because he plays with Kovalchuk.

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05-03-2013, 02:57 AM
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Seriously, this Yakupov "should be on the team" is coming from people who know the least about the Russian Team.

I challenge anyone who thinks Yakupov deserves to be on the roster to actually pick the person he should displace and explain why! Otherwise it's a very superficial statement "he should be on the team because I like to watch him" BS.

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i agree though yapukov should be there

You just gotta love this clown
why he should be there if every single guy playing his position is better than him ???

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This team would be a lock for the gold medal game with Bobrovsky, we all know that cutting Yakupov makes no sense but Bobrovsky was winning games by himself with the Blue Jackets, Pekka Rinne calibre.

Sergei Bobrovsky is a lock for Sochi, he should be the starter for Russia today and tomorrow.

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This team would be a lock for the gold medal game with Bobrovsky, we all know that cutting Yakupov makes no sense but Bobrovsky was winning games by himself with the Blue Jackets, Pekka Rinne calibre.

Sergei Bobrovsky is a lock for Sochi, he should be the starter for Russia today and tomorrow.
We all know ?? speak for yourself
Another one who has no clue

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05-03-2013, 06:14 AM
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Line Ups for the match against latvia

Radulov - Loktionov - Kovalchuk
Biryukov - Nikulin

Popov - Anisimov - Perezhogin
Tyutin - Medvedev

Mozyakin - Tereshhenko - Petrov
Denisov - Belov

Soin - Svitov - Kokarev
Ryasensky - Zaytsev

source: http://whc.championat.com/hockey/_wh...medium=twitter

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So who u guys think is the #1 goalie for Russia?

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05-03-2013, 07:51 AM
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So who u guys think is the #1 goalie for Russia?
In this tourny, the job is for Bryz to lose. But Varly would be #2.

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05-03-2013, 07:59 AM
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Bobrovskiy himself said that he is not ready to play in WC. Why do people bring this up over and over again. Why they called up Bryzgalov and given him #1 job I dunno...the guy is not simply overrated he is overinflated!

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05-03-2013, 08:02 AM
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Line Ups for the match against latvia
To be entirely correct, these are the lines for today's practice, not the actual game. Here are the only 16+3 players who are confirmed for the championship.

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05-03-2013, 08:05 AM
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To be entirely correct, these are the lines for today's practice, not the actual game. Here are the only 16+3 players who are confirmed for the championship.
http://www.allhockey.ru/news/150554/

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05-03-2013, 08:06 AM
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Bobrovskiy himself said that he is not ready to play in WC. Why do people bring this up over and over again. Why they called up Bryzgalov and given him #1 job I dunno...the guy is not simply overrated he is overinflated!
Agreed. If it's the same Bryzgalov that we saw in 2009 I could live with that, but not since then.

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I think Bryz should be fine. He can finally get away from the pressure created by idiotic Philly media and ultimately focus on the game

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I think Bryz should be fine. He can finally get away from the pressure created by idiotic Philly media and ultimately focus on the game
of cause, because away from idiotic Philly media he played great for CSKA, right?

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of cause, because away from idiotic Philly media he played great for CSKA, right?
On the contrary, he started the NHL season pretty good before he got overplayed because the Flyers didn't have a capable backup. Then the media part kicked in..

He's still a legit goalie, but he needs comfortable environment to be able to focus on the game

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