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05-03-2013, 08:00 AM
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So Miller and #8 for Yandle?
I was thinking 38, or 16.

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I was thinking 38, or 16.
I doubt Phoenix entertains an offer for a singly year goaltender for guy of Yandle's ability for anything mid-round. Yandle's going to cost and it's likely way more than a 2nd round pick added to that one-year goalie to get them to even return the call. If I'm Phoenix, I have no reason at all to move Yandle unless it's for something with years of control and potential -- and that's at least #8 this year.

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05-03-2013, 09:22 AM
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A lot of that depends on if it is a one year deal or if Miller, much like vanek, agrees to resign. Miller on a three year deal, with Buffalo eating cap hit if need be, has a much higher value than Miller one the final year of an existing contract.

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Depends hugely on what happens in the playoffs. The 1st team that looks like it needs to solve its goaltending will get Miller, and pay a price for it. Knee-jerk reaction. Happens every year.

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05-03-2013, 10:16 AM
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Anyone think Montreal might be interested if price doesn't turn it around? If Mtl interested, are we interested in Price and his contract back the other way?

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Anyone think Montreal might be interested if price doesn't turn it around? If Mtl interested, are we interested in Price and his contract back the other way?
Nope. We want blue chip picks and prospects.

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05-03-2013, 12:55 PM
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You need a team like Chicago to get run out early due to poor goaltending, a scenario like that might open up a destination or two.
Like Montreal's goaltending performance last night?

I'm watching whether the Kings or the Ducks flame out. Maybe it could open up something in L.A.

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05-03-2013, 01:05 PM
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Like Montreal's goaltending performance last night?

I'm watching whether the Kings or the Ducks flame out. Maybe it could open up something in L.A.
Kings???

He was below average in the regular season, but he's got way too much positive history for the Kings to be looking to replace him. He should've won the Vezina last year. Even in the two losses so far, his stats are stellar.

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I think Minny might be an option if Backstrom doesn't re-sign for some reason.

They can't be comfortable with a Harding/Kuemper combo platter.

Miller could slide in for a year, not completely kill their cap and see what happens from there.


Not sure exactly what we could extract out of them, but it may be an option.

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05-03-2013, 02:10 PM
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Calgary - Kipper might retire
Chicago - maybe if Crawford flops again
Edmonton - has only Dubnyk under contract next season but probably won't take Miller's cap
Florida - Theodore will be gone, Markstrom is RFA and Clemmenson has one more year
Minnesota - Backstrom is UFA but they probably don't take Miller's cap, and Minny just traded top picks for Pominville.
NJ - if Broduer retires
NYI - Nabakov and Thomas are UFAs, Poulin is RFA, decent possibility there
Philly - if they buy out Bryz

Those are the only realistic spots, IMO.

Edit - Oh geeezus I originally put two "m"s in Pominville. I HATE when people do that!! Now I hate myself!!!


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Calgary - Kipper might retire
Chicago - maybe if Crawford flops again
Edmonton - has only Dubnyk under contract next season but probably won't take Miller's cap
Florida - Theodore will be gone, Markstrom is RFA and Clemmenson has one more year
Minnesota - Backstrom is UFA but they probably don't take Miller's cap, and Minny just traded top picks for Pomminville.
NJ - if Broduer retires
NYI - Nabakov and Thomas are UFAs, Poulin is RFA, decent possibility there
Philly - if they buy out Bryz

Those are the only realistic spots, IMO.
It's not realistic to expect Miller to waive to go to the Oilers or Flames.

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It's not realistic to expect Miller to waive to go to the Oilers or Flames.
Probably, but I didn't want to take that into consideration...aside from Toronto but that was too obvious.

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Like Montreal's goaltending performance last night?

I'm watching whether the Kings or the Ducks flame out. Maybe it could open up something in L.A.
Quick has surgery in the off-season. Probably why his regular season stats were sub-par. I don't think they're going to make a knee-jerk reaction trade to replace him, especially when Bernier stepped up this season when he wasn't so good. Quick has also been fine so far in the playoffs, other than that puck-handling gaff in game 1.

Ducks? Maybe if Hiller puts up a few more performances like last night and Fasth doesn't do any better in relief. Even then, I'm not sure Miller would fit well with their cap situation.

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If Miller is to be traded, how about Miller for DiPietro, 2013 1st and 2014 1st? Buffalo then uses a buy-out on DiPietro. I don't remember how much his buy-out would cost but it's obviously a lot, and that would have to be worth a lot in trade value. With such a wonky trade it's hard to gauge the proper return.

Does that seem fair, or if an extension could be worked out with the deal would NYI have to add?

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05-03-2013, 02:46 PM
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So Miller and #8 for Yandle?
Yandle isn't worth #8 alone... come on.

I do think Phoenix is the most logical destination for miller

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I doubt Phoenix entertains an offer for a singly year goaltender for guy of Yandle's ability for anything mid-round. Yandle's going to cost and it's likely way more than a 2nd round pick added to that one-year goalie to get them to even return the call. If I'm Phoenix, I have no reason at all to move Yandle unless it's for something with years of control and potential -- and that's at least #8 this year.
getting to the playoffs, and getting that extra revenue is everything to Phoenix... gotta think in a system that Bryz and Smith can get a team to the playoffs in.... Miller would add revenue to their stream, more so than Yandle does.

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Doh! Forgot Smith and LaBarbera were both UFAs.

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I'm keeping my eye on Edmonton, but then again, they may be on his list of 8 for all I know. They have the assets to give, and the natives are restless,add that to the fact that MacTavish may want to make a statement as the new GM, thats a recipe in the making
What are the odds that Edmonton isn't on Miller's "Don't trade me there" list?

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Kings???

He was below average in the regular season, but he's got way too much positive history for the Kings to be looking to replace him. He should've won the Vezina last year. Even in the two losses so far, his stats are stellar.
I agree... I can't see Quick getting axed if there's a quick exit.

(Unless maybe you prescribe to the point of view that goalies are fairly interchangable and it's the team in front of them that matters..... )

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If the Pens fall apart this year I think that suddenly becomes a destination for Miller.

In the years following his Stanley Cup season MAF's playoff save % is .879

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If Miller is to be traded, how about Miller for DiPietro, 2013 1st and 2014 1st? Buffalo then uses a buy-out on DiPietro. I don't remember how much his buy-out would cost but it's obviously a lot, and that would have to be worth a lot in trade value. With such a wonky trade it's hard to gauge the proper return.

Does that seem fair, or if an extension could be worked out with the deal would NYI have to add?
From memory I think the buyout for Dipietro is 26 million dollars.
We could debate that Kotalik's $3,000,000 was worth a second round draft pick.

How much is 26 million dollars worth to Charles Wang?

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From everything I read, the Isles want to keep DiPietro on the books so they can reach the cap floor.

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From everything I read, the Isles want to keep DiPietro on the books so they can reach the cap floor.
Good to know. I hadn't read that.

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I thought about the cap floor issue, but extending Miller long-term accomplishes the same thing and improves the team. But maybe Wang just wants to stash a non-roster player that still has a cap hit.

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I thought about the cap floor issue, but extending Miller long-term accomplishes the same thing and improves the team. But maybe Wang just wants to stash a non-roster player that still has a cap hit.
So are we thinking like Miller to NYI for whatever Miller's worth (ideally a couple firsts and a blue chip prospect)

PLUS DiPietro to Buffalo for whatever taking his contract off their hands is worth (probably a smattering of later round picks spread out over several seasons, like four 3rd rounders, say).

So in effect it looks ridiculously lopsided, like Miller to NYI for Dipietro, a couple firsts, a prospect, and four 3rd rounders.

That would be hilarious.

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