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05-04-2013, 05:53 PM
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Alex Edler

Lost: Alex Edler's compete level. If found please return.

Seriously though, he looks lethargic out there, especially in the D zone. He is no where near the D man he was. 2 Years ago it looked like he was going to turn into a stud D-man. I wish he would return to the dependable, physical Defenceman he was.


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He's focusing too much on offense. Needs to get back to the simple game he used to play when he was younger, ala Tanev.

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He needs to be moved away from Bieksa, KB3 is trash

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I still think that if he hit the market he would garner about 5.5-6 mil/year...

But honestly, I think he's worth 3.5-4 at the level he is playing at.

His back problem is clearly a chronic one that hinders his ability to play at a high level. I truly think we've seen the best of Edler. Back injuries, specifically disc problems, will ruin a player's career. Fortunately for Edler, he cashed in before his game really deteriorated.

He's simply playing terribly. Not KB3's fault either, he was bad before the past two nights.

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we need larry robinson...

Edler has all the tools but is just brain dead out there... bad coaching.

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Main problem is that the team hasn't been able to find a compatible partner for him since Ehrhoff left. That and the coaches seem incapable of acknowledging the fact his play has basically fallen off a cliff recently ... they are still playing him as our #1 despite the fact Hamhuis and Garrison both outplayed him all year. Related problem is that apparently Bieksa can't play with anyone but Hamhuis, so you're stuck with either an Edler-Bieksa pairing or Alberts-Bieksa pairing unless you break up Hamhuis and Garrison.

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Lost: Alex Edler's compete level. If found please return.

I wish he would return to the dependable, physical Defenceman he was.
When was that?

He and Bieksa are at best a pair of AHL d-men.

The problem with the Canuck management[especially Gillis] is that they over value their players..........they've got at least 6 players on this team that not only haven't contributed anything to this team,but probably wouldn't even make other teams.

Why are they still playing here,Raymond,Higgins,Roy [wow a pickup he's been] Ballard,Lapierre,Weise,etc,etc.

This is just a bad team and with no future draft picks,they're only going to get worse the older these guys get.

I predicted a month ago that they would get knocked out in the 1st round..........Gillis and Vigneault have to go.

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Edler is playing over 27:00 minutes a game.

That's a #1 D calibre. He's also being burdened with a partner who's not great in his own zone.

Look at any other 27 minute dman in the west, they all have reliable partners.

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Edler is playing over 27:00 minutes a game.

That's a #1 D calibre. He's also being burdened with a partner who's not great in his own zone.

Look at any other 27 minute dman in the west, they all have reliable partners.
One could also argue that Bieksa has been burdened by a partner who's not great in his own zone.

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He's simply playing terribly. Not KB3's fault either, he was bad before the past two nights.
Nope. He has been inconsistent, not terrible, but he was playing his best hockey of the season prior to the playoffs when he was paired with Corrado. They looked solid in their own zone, good communication, and passing between them. Quick passes and they were out of their zone. That's good defense. Then the coaches decide to break that up and put him with Bieksa, who has equally if not more contributed to the volatility of that pairing. They have simply no chemistry, which has been proven time and time again. The inability to recognizing that, as Bobby Lou said, lies on coaching. Coaches help bring out the best in players and right now this decision is bringing out the worst in each of these two players.

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Edler is playing over 27:00 minutes a game.

That's a #1 D calibre. He's also being burdened with a partner who's not great in his own zone.

Look at any other 27 minute dman in the west, they all have reliable partners.
AV thinks that playing Alberts and giving Edler-KB3 more minutes than they can handle is better than simply playing Ballard and balancing TOI a bit.

i mean, jesus. ****ing. christ. Ballard makes a bad play once a game or two and rides the pine; Edler and KB3 make many bad plays every game and they get top-pairing minutes. Wow, totally logical.

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He needs to be moved away from Bieksa, KB3 is trash
How did he go from being paired with Alberts (on the 3rd pairing), to the top pairing with Hamhuis? And playing the most minutes of all D-men last night? Just mind-boggling. Trash is the word.

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Edler is playing over 27:00 minutes a game.

That's a #1 D calibre. He's also being burdened with a partner who's not great in his own zone.

Look at any other 27 minute dman in the west, they all have reliable partners.
As opposed to Edler? Maybe Bieksa is the one who is burderned, see the overtime goal.

If Edler wants to be this team's #1 d-man, he should be able to play with anyone and perhaps even shelter them. How come Hamhuis has no problem playing with anyone?

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He's lucky that he's not lost because of that knee on knee
That could of been deadly

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How did he go from being paired with Alberts (on the 3rd pairing), to the top pairing with Hamhuis? And playing the most minutes of all D-men last night? Just mind-boggling. Trash is the word.
It was an exaggeration, I was just saying it because it is obvious that they make each other worse, but Edler gets most of the criticism.

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He's lucky that he's not lost because of that knee on knee
That could of been deadly
Ya, that was bad, cringed when it happened

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The problem is that Edler is being asked to play minutes outside of his ability. He is so overrated by not only our fanbase but the coaching staff as well. I am not an Edler hater, rather an Edler realist. He is not a top 2 Dman and never will be. He needs to have his minutes managed like any other non-top player would. If he played on avg 20mins a game he would probably be one of the more reliable Dmen. Playing him 25-30mins a game is insane and just asking for failure.

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I doubt Corrado gets another game. If he plays one more we burn a year of his 3yr rookie salary. With the emergence of Corrado and Tanev we can afford to trade Edler this summer.

I can see the Canucks shedding ALOT of salary and players this off season.

It will be a different looking team next year. I'll put my stamp on it!

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Edler is playing over 27:00 minutes a game.

That's a #1 D calibre. He's also being burdened with a partner who's not great in his own zone.

Look at any other 27 minute dman in the west, they all have reliable partners.
Him playing 27 min does not make him #1 D man. That's just incompetence on the coach to not recognized he's not playing that well.
Edler was -3 and had a terrible game. The last goal was directly his fault.

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Hes the reason they SJS score the first goal and the OT goal. Absolute garbage plays in front of the net and all over the ice.

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Hes the reason they SJS score the first goal and the OT goal. Absolute garbage plays in front of the net and all over the ice.
not to mention the 1st goal was him getting out battled by Thornton.

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Hes the reason they SJS score the first goal and the OT goal. Absolute garbage plays in front of the net and all over the ice.
I wouldn't say either of those goals were really all Edler's fault. Bieksa played that OT 2 on 1 terribly.

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not to mention the 1st goal was him getting out battled by Thornton.
...after losing the puck in his skates. That whole sequence was Barker-worthy.

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Get him a different partner. He hasn't had anyone since Ehrhoff really.

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When was that?

He and Bieksa are at best a pair of AHL d-men.


The problem with the Canuck management[especially Gillis] is that they over value their players..........they've got at least 6 players on this team that not only haven't contributed anything to this team,but probably wouldn't even make other teams.

Why are they still playing here,Raymond,Higgins,Roy [wow a pickup he's been] Ballard,Lapierre,Weise,etc,etc.

This is just a bad team and with no future draft picks,they're only going to get worse the older these guys get.

I predicted a month ago that they would get knocked out in the 1st round..........Gillis and Vigneault have to go.
This statement is so ridiculous I simply ignored everything else i n your post.

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