HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

ECQF Game 2: Rangers @ Capitals 5/4/13 - Lundqvists 0 - Capitals 1

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-04-2013, 06:06 PM
  #601
Championship*
#Joel&Ellie
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,503
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzy View Post
He's a hockey player not a molecular biologist. And when you're talking to the media you're not exactly going to put everything in haiku.
You don't have to be even a HS graduate to be able to elaborate more than that, let alone a molecular biologist. That statement he gave is about as good as a shoulder shrug.

Championship* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:06 PM
  #602
Ail
k.
 
Ail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mysidia
Country: United States
Posts: 15,934
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by poeman View Post
I dont know if it will matter as I dont know if this loss will light a fire under our team.

How many teams have come back being down 2-0 to win?
Statistics don't matter. Anything can happen!

__________________
Ail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:08 PM
  #603
Blueshirt Believer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,378
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ola View Post
What does defensive minded means?

We give up a helluva amount of chances. Hank is asked to make impossible saves on regular basis. We play a style in which we always are on our heels, without Hank we would be on par with Philly defensively.

We suck defensively to be honest.

We do not give away a lot of pucks in te neutral zone (duh we just fire pucks through it), but what good does that do when we can't defend it either.

We are easily the worst coached team in the league right now.
I wouldn't say we suck defensively. I just think we play WAY too much of it. Sooner or later, even with a great defensive team, your going to have massive breakdowns if your playing most of the period in their end. In the second period today, it felt like the Rangers played almost 70 percent of that period defending.

In fact, I think our D corps is awesome considering how little help they get from their forwards playing in the Ozone. They constantly breakup rushing plays up ice.

The only major issue with our system defensively, in terms of coverage, the wings are bit soft with supporting the puck along the wall or covering the point men. But that is the collapsing zone D for you.

The transition is the major problem. The stretch pass has to go. Rangers constantly try to move forwards way too far out of the zone and try for those home run passes. All it does is just defer the puck to the opposing team.


Last edited by Blueshirt Believer: 05-04-2013 at 06:14 PM.
Blueshirt Believer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:08 PM
  #604
NikC
Registered User
 
NikC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 3,584
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueshirt Believer View Post
Well, I actually been calling for Torts firing well before this series. I honestly didn't care about making the playoffs if we couldn't even get out of the first round. Its looking like thats probably going to happen.

Hell, the Caps haven't really even played a good game yet.
this! the Caps are totally beatable. All we needed was functioning powerplay and at the very least we'd be sitting 1-1.

Total BS how that after 4 yrs there's no set plays, no structure, no semblance of any working offensive strategy. I'm absolutely baffled at how obstinate and thick this guy is.

If it takes running through walls every game all season long for his "system" to work, then say goodbye to this guy. Full training camp or not, it'll be more of the same from a coach who admittedly doesn't coach offense!

NikC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:08 PM
  #605
Leetch66
Registered User
 
Leetch66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PEI Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,143
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by msv957 View Post
Richards was a past MVP in the playoffs.
Part of the problem...everything good about Richards is in the PAST!!!

Leetch66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:09 PM
  #606
Championship*
#Joel&Ellie
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,503
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailurophile View Post
Statistics don't matter. Anything can happen!
Dragon egg is the new goose egg!

Championship* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:10 PM
  #607
M0rbid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cave
Country: United States
Posts: 7,735
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NikC View Post
this! the Caps are totally beatable. All we needed was functioning powerplay and at the very least we'd be sitting 1-1.

Total BS how that after 4 yrs there's no set plays, no structure, no semblance of any working offensive strategy. I'm absolutely baffled at how obstinate and thick this guy is.

If it takes running through walls every game all season long for his "system" to work, then say goodbye to this guy. Full training camp or not, it'll be more of the same from a coach who admittedly doesn't coach offense!
I think it would be foolish to give him another year. If they do, they need to apologize to renney.

M0rbid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:11 PM
  #608
NikC
Registered User
 
NikC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 3,584
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by messiah View Post
bring zubov back next year just to run the power play he cant be as bad as the guys we have out there now
why can't they get Brian Leetch to coach a PP?! What purpose does he serve in this organization right now besides being propped up with Mess and Graves as the last remnants of when we were a winning team?

NikC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:12 PM
  #609
Blueshirt Believer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,378
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NikC View Post
this! the Caps are totally beatable. All we needed was functioning powerplay and at the very least we'd be sitting 1-1.

Total BS how that after 4 yrs there's no set plays, no structure, no semblance of any working offensive strategy. I'm absolutely baffled at how obstinate and thick this guy is.

If it takes running through walls every game all season long for his "system" to work, then say goodbye to this guy. Full training camp or not, it'll be more of the same from a coach who admittedly doesn't coach offense!
Thats why the Rangers will never win with Tortorella coaching this team. Sooner or later, in the playoffs, your going to play a team you don't match up well against. You got to make adjustments tactically to beat those teams. Torts is incapable of doing so.

Blueshirt Believer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:12 PM
  #610
WhipNash27
Quattro!!
 
WhipNash27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Westchester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 15,489
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by poeman View Post
I dont know if it will matter as I dont know if this loss will light a fire under our team.

How many teams have come back being down 2-0 to win?
It's happened obviously. I don't see the Rangers losing two at MSG. Although if they drop game 3, it is a good possibility. Rangers win two at MSG and it's a new series. Unfortunately, they seem to have stunk on the road all season and it's no different now.

WhipNash27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:13 PM
  #611
Clowes Line
Cally's Chicken Parm
 
Clowes Line's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New Yawk
Country: United States
Posts: 12,544
vCash: 500
Gotta love Torts...

Quote:
When the referee tried to come over and explain why Karl Alzner was not penalized, John Tortorella told him to “get the **** out of my sight.”

Clowes Line is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:14 PM
  #612
ImIdaho
Choo-Choo-Choose me!
 
ImIdaho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,151
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clowes Line View Post
Gotta love Torts...




Too bad he doesn't say something similar to Sully.

ImIdaho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:16 PM
  #613
messiah
Registered User
 
messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 256
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by poeman View Post
I dont know if it will matter as I dont know if this loss will light a fire under our team.

How many teams have come back being down 2-0 to win?
2009 rangers up 2 0 to the caps and loose in seven

messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:19 PM
  #614
messiah
Registered User
 
messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 256
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NikC View Post
why can't they get Brian Leetch to coach a PP?! What purpose does he serve in this organization right now besides being propped up with Mess and Graves as the last remnants of when we were a winning team?
And have messier show nash boyle how to hit someone and still be able to score a goal.

messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:20 PM
  #615
dynamoovechkin
Registered User
 
dynamoovechkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Country: United States
Posts: 454
vCash: 500
Want to know why we lost?
Offensively challenged team ices Boyle and Dorsett instead of someone who actually knows where the net is.
Rick Nash: if you are going to cut to the middle like you always do, you have to find a way to get your shot through.
Derek Stepan- third year in the playoffs and still a big fat zero
Torts: You gotta get McD off in that situation
DelZotto shoots...wide
Brad Richards- i think he suffered some kind of brain damage in the off season. His career seems to be over. Just a complete non-factor at both ends
Mike Sullivan- power play guru extraordinaire
Dan Girardi- no business on the PP, ever
Derick Brassard- brutal today
Captain Cally- just hitting everything in sight does not mean you are a leader. How about making some plays now and then around the net?
Coaches- team just not ready to play in the OT

dynamoovechkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:23 PM
  #616
Osminator
Registered User
 
Osminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vienna, Austria
Country: Austria
Posts: 4,473
vCash: 50
Does anyone on the team look as flat and clueless like Richards does? Jebus christ, if he has any self-respect, he should ask his agent to negotiate a buyout off the record (get a bank account on thr Cayman Isles or something), officially retire and save face.

Osminator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:24 PM
  #617
segmentation fault
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jersey City
Country: Italy
Posts: 1,865
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by messiah View Post
2009 rangers up 2 0 to the caps and loose in seven
Clearly we are not the Caps.

segmentation fault is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:26 PM
  #618
M0rbid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cave
Country: United States
Posts: 7,735
vCash: 500
Braden Holtby:"It wasn't a very straining game on a goalie."

M0rbid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:27 PM
  #619
OverTheCap
Registered User
 
OverTheCap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 9,614
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamoovechkin View Post
Want to know why we lost?
Offensively challenged team ices Boyle and Dorsett instead of someone who actually knows where the net is.
Rick Nash: if you are going to cut to the middle like you always do, you have to find a way to get your shot through.
Derek Stepan- third year in the playoffs and still a big fat zero
Torts: You gotta get McD off in that situation
DelZotto shoots...wide
Brad Richards- i think he suffered some kind of brain damage in the off season. His career seems to be over. Just a complete non-factor at both ends
Mike Sullivan- power play guru extraordinaire
Dan Girardi- no business on the PP, ever
Derick Brassard- brutal today
Captain Cally- just hitting everything in sight does not mean you are a leader. How about making some plays now and then around the net?
Coaches- team just not ready to play in the OT
Very little criticism of Stepan considering he had a great season and the expectations were high going into the playoffs. A disappointment for sure.

OverTheCap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:29 PM
  #620
messiah
Registered User
 
messiah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 256
vCash: 500
I havent seen a post about the quote of the night from last nights games . i dont care what “that bug-eyed fat walrus” said.
wish we still had prust

messiah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:31 PM
  #621
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 17,487
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by M0rbid View Post
Braden Holtby:"It wasn't a very straining game on a goalie."
Did he actually say this?

Good to know he acknowledges how craptastic their offense is.

Rangers Fail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:32 PM
  #622
Championship*
#Joel&Ellie
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,503
vCash: 500
Rangers haven't won consecutive playoff games since 2009

Championship* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:33 PM
  #623
ltsthinaz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Kingman, Arizona
Country: United States
Posts: 597
vCash: 500
Did anyone notice that Hagelin was a force until he was hit by Ovechkin, then was hurt/unable to skate. I also think Ovechkin went out of his way to knee him, it was a borderline dirty hit. Rangers were a one line offense after that. One line offenses never win.

Also, could he put Kreider in for Pyatt. Pyatt is always behind the play, can't skate, can't score, and he on Boyle on the ice for the 90 seconds before the McD penalty IMO led directly to the McD penalty.

Oh well, we are not winning anything with this power play. It is killing us.

Do I think we can still win this series? Well, yes, both of these games were ultimately winnable. But not with one goal off a Cap defenseman as the total for two games. And I think we have the coaching strategy (non-strategy?) to thank for that.

ltsthinaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:34 PM
  #624
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 17,487
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Championship View Post
Rangers haven't won consecutive playoff games since 2009
Ottawa games 6 and 7 last year.

Rangers Fail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-04-2013, 06:35 PM
  #625
M0rbid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cave
Country: United States
Posts: 7,735
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grind Jam Grind View Post
Did he actually say this?

Good to know he acknowledges how craptastic their offense is.
Yes and its embarrassing a scrub goalie is saying that about our team.

M0rbid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.