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04-17-2013, 11:37 AM
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You can make a pretty good case for Hall over Kane - the others not yet but certainly isn't out of the possibility.
Can you really? Kane already has a Stanley Cup, a phenomenal post season record and has over 400 points as well as hovering near PPG his entire career.

Hall isn't even close to Kane, yet.

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04-17-2013, 11:40 AM
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You can make a pretty good case for Hall over Kane - the others not yet but certainly isn't out of the possibility.
No way. The gap between Kane and Hall is probably the biggest out of the bunch.

Taylor Hall hasn't even finished 82 games in a season yet, not to mention Kane has won a Calder and a Stanley Cup where he could have easily won the Conn Smythe.

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04-17-2013, 12:16 PM
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Can you really? Kane already has a Stanley Cup, a phenomenal post season record and has over 400 points as well as hovering near PPG his entire career.

Hall isn't even close to Kane, yet.
Well, the thread was originally stated to be about potential. So...
Otherwise, what is the point, Mackinnon would be dead last as he hasn't played a single game, yet.

Stamkos
Tavares
Mackinnon
Hall
RNH
Kane
Yakupov

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I simply laugh at anyone putting some of EDM's draft picks over Patrick Kane.

Man you guys are delusional. Plus MacKinnon, although he is good, has done nothing at the NHL level. It should be (with Nate fitting around RHN and Yakupov):

1. Stamkos
2. Tavares
3. Kane
4. Hall
5. RHN
6. Yakupov
Kane was by far the least touted #1 pick though. Leading into the draft it could have been any of him JVR or Turris, and the consensus was that none of the 3 were true franchise players. Turris was thought to have maybe become one, but not for a while - he also had a high bust factor though.

All of the other guys were clearly good enough to be 1st overall players in their draft year - and Seguin and Huberdeau were top notch prospects as well if the Oilers went that way anyways.

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04-17-2013, 01:57 PM
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Well, the thread was originally stated to be about potential. So...
Otherwise, what is the point, Mackinnon would be dead last as he hasn't played a single game, yet.

Stamkos
Tavares
Mackinnon
Hall
RNH
Kane
Yakupov
Based on potential Kane is near the top of the list. The guy has everything and more.

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Tavares
Mackinnon
Hall
Yakupov
RNH

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04-17-2013, 02:12 PM
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Kane was by far the least touted #1 pick though. Leading into the draft it could have been any of him JVR or Turris, and the consensus was that none of the 3 were true franchise players. Turris was thought to have maybe become one, but not for a while - he also had a high bust factor though.

All of the other guys were clearly good enough to be 1st overall players in their draft year - and Seguin and Huberdeau were top notch prospects as well if the Oilers went that way anyways.
As a Flyers fan...not quite true. It was obvoius at the WJC and onward that Kane would be #1. And as far as MacKinnon, he still might not be a top 2 pick. No consensous on that. Personally, being from Halifax and seeing him a bunch, I think he will be great.

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Most of you are severely underrating Kane. I'm actually baffled from reading through this thread.

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04-17-2013, 04:40 PM
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You can make a pretty good case for Hall over Kane - the others not yet but certainly isn't out of the possibility.
That's not even close to being true.

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04-17-2013, 04:58 PM
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That's not even close to being true.
Absolutely not! There is no comparing the two at the moment.

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Absolutely not! There is no comparing the two at the moment.
Hall's ppg this year is 1.102 last year: .869 Kane's ppg is 1.119 this year and last year was .805 over an 82 games this year that's the difference of 1 point for kane. but Hall out produced him last season. and I realize there's much more to hockey then points but that's there main job on both teams and one plays on a much better team then the other so to say they aren't close at this point is pretty ridicoulous. considering Hall has actually been producing points at a high rate then kane over the last 2 years.

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04-17-2013, 08:55 PM
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MacKinnon is behind Tavares and Stamkos. And Galchenyuk is ahead of Yakupov. (He's the true 1st overall)

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You can make a pretty good case for Hall over Kane - the others not yet but certainly isn't out of the possibility.
No - you really can't .

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04-21-2013, 02:53 PM
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MacKinnon is having a good playoffs, looks very comfortable despite the extra attention and physical play. Hat trick last night, 2nd goal was a beauty. He`s creating odd man chances every game with his speed.

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Douin, no matter the team.

A) Hes a bit smaller
B) He was a riser in the draft, not a concensus #1 or #2 to start the year. MacK and Jones were always thought to be #1 or #2
C)He could be a winger

If HF loves 2 things its big centers. Thus why Barkov will be claimed to be the steal of the draft if he goes 4th
I agree. I am certainly not qualified to make the following statement because I havent seen these prospects as much as others, but after watching Drouin, Im just not sold on that his creativity will be as successful in the NHL. Again, I could be completely wrong, but Im just going by what I have seen. In regards to the Panthers, in their 20 years of existence, they have never had that center that you could consider top line talent. Bjugstad could become that top line center, but with MacKinnon, they are pretty much guaranteed to have one heck of a 1-2 punch down the middle.

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I agree. I am certainly not qualified to make the following statement because I havent seen these prospects as much as others, but after watching Drouin, Im just not sold on that his creativity will be as successful in the NHL. Again, I could be completely wrong, but Im just going by what I have seen. In regards to the Panthers, in their 20 years of existence, they have never had that center that you could consider top line talent. Bjugstad could become that top line center, but with MacKinnon, they are pretty much guaranteed to have one heck of a 1-2 punch down the middle.
Drouin's offense will translate just fine to the NHL. But unfortunately, with his small frame, I doubt Drouin will ever be more than an adequate defensive player. That's part of what makes MacKinnon a more compelling pick. He's bigger and faster, and there's no reason he couldn't be a versatile player who's great in all three zones.

I think both players will do great at the NHL level. But MacKinnon has just plain better physical assets.

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04-21-2013, 06:10 PM
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Drouin's offense will translate just fine to the NHL. But unfortunately, with his small frame, I doubt Drouin will ever be more than an adequate defensive player. That's part of what makes MacKinnon a more compelling pick. He's bigger and faster, and there's no reason he couldn't be a versatile player who's great in all three zones.

I think both players will do great at the NHL level. But MacKinnon has just plain better physical assets.
And he is a center. IMO, the hardest position to fill is top line center, and for a team like the Panthers, they need to fill that position via the draft. This is the perfect opportunity for them to really solidify this team moving forward.

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Nathan has looked very solid so far this series against Rouyn Noranda. He has taken a lot of defensive zone draws and has create a lot of offense off of the transition game from his speed. He also has broken up numerous plays from his speed while back checking.

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04-22-2013, 09:23 AM
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MacKinnon may end up in Tampa, if they continue to play they way they are. It'll be interesting to see how Florida approaches the first pick and if Colorado leapfrogs Tampa. If Florida looks to build down the middle, Tampa would fill a great need in Seth Jones; if Florida goes with Jones, Tampa can snag MacKinnon as a Lecavalier replacement.

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should be noted for those who didn't know...MacKinnon with 1G, 3A last night in a 5-4 OT win. Drouin had the same stat line.

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Amazing display of speed and skill by Mackinnon tonight. Numerous scoring chances created.

One of his better games of the year, despite only 1 assist.

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gonna look good with Huberdeau on his wing

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gonna look good with Huberdeau on his wing
Almost a lock.

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I swear, the lottery had to have been rigged... the results were literally perfect. Colorado is going to get the guy who started the game there, Florida gets the guy who'll be perfect with Huberdeau, and Tampa Bay gets their eventual MSL replacement.

Tricky NHL.. they knew we caught on to their plan with Edmonton, thought they could throw us a change-up!!

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Almost a lock.
I've said this elsewhere, but I think Florida has to consider Drouin, too. In the end, MacKinnon is the no-brainer pick considering position, name-power and NHL readiness. But, I wouldn't be shocked if Drouin was the guy they actually wanted more. A true French connection between him and Huberdeau could be something magical to watch.

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Wouldn't be surprised to see MacKinnon and Drouin go in the top 2.
How sick would it be to see Halifax vs. Portland in the Memorial Cup?

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