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09-14-2012, 11:43 PM
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AHL 2013-14 Season (ideal alignment)

What is your ideal 2014 Alignment of all 30 AHL Teams

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Abbotsford to the South (now called West)
Charlotte to the East (pretty sure that it's in the league bylaws that any realignment must move them)
Syracuse to the North

Everyone else remains the same.

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Milwaukee in a division by themselves. They always make the playoffs that way!

MKE, CHI, PEO, RCK and Iowa. No more than 10 games against any of them, not 12.

Two games against Rochester, the only Western team not played (again).

Abby goes to the West to replace Houston and GR replaces Abby.

The Eastern Conf stays the same.

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I'll hold off on that until we know for sure if Abbotsford's moving to Utica and if Peoria's moving to Abbotsford.

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What ever gets Grand Rapids to the Eastern conference so I can watch some of the Wings prospect.

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Assuming the rumors are true with Peoria leaving and Utica getting a team.

Norfolk moves from East to South. Utica joins the East. Iowa joins the Midwest.

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I'm not going to even do the first iota of speculation or work on alignment until the roster of teams and cities is actually known. No clue where Peoria is going (if anywhere), and that could make major alignment difference.

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If Peoria does end up in Vancouver, this setup may be the best one possible given that it'd only last a year between uncertainity of where Calgary's affiliate ends up and the Adirondack move to Lehigh Valley.

Atlantic: STJ/POR/MCH/WOR/PRO
Northeast: ADK/ALB/SPR/HFD/BRI
East: BNG/WBS/HER/NOR/CHA
North: SYR/ROC/HAM/TOR/LKE
Midwest: GRR/CHI/RFD/MIL/IA
West: TEX/SA/OKC/ABB/VAN

If Calgary decides to stay out west after all, this would work very well as in 2014 there could be a simple swap between ADK/LV and BNG between divisions and it'd create a true Mid-Atlantic division. Also, under this alignment "Great Lakes" may be a better name for the North.

Also, has any team in the history of the AHL let alone any sport period has been as hosed in regards to alignment as the Charlotte Checkers? For a league where rivalries are king, being a division rival to more than half the teams in the league in a short span is just shameful.

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If Peoria does end up in Vancouver, this setup may be the best one possible given that it'd only last a year between uncertainity of where Calgary's affiliate ends up and the Adirondack move to Lehigh Valley.

Atlantic: STJ/POR/MCH/WOR/PRO
Northeast: ADK/ALB/SPR/HFD/BRI
East: BNG/WBS/HER/NOR/CHA
North: SYR/ROC/HAM/TOR/LKE
Midwest: GRR/CHI/RFD/MIL/IA
West: TEX/SA/OKC/ABB/VAN

If Calgary decides to stay out west after all, this would work very well as in 2014 there could be a simple swap between ADK/LV and BNG between divisions and it'd create a true Mid-Atlantic division. Also, under this alignment "Great Lakes" may be a better name for the North.

Also, has any team in the history of the AHL let alone any sport period has been as hosed in regards to alignment as the Charlotte Checkers? For a league where rivalries are king, being a division rival to more than half the teams in the league in a short span is just shameful.
Charlotte is an outpost. The AHL could use a team or two in KY or Knoxville, TN or maybe Gwinnett, GA, or Ashville, NC. I think the AHL is rotating Charlotte to show off the new team and build some rivals. I know that I like to see them in Milwaukee!

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Charlotte is an outpost. The AHL could use a team or two in KY or Knoxville, TN or maybe Gwinnett, GA, or Ashville, NC. I think the AHL is rotating Charlotte to show off the new team and build some rivals. I know that I like to see them in Milwaukee!
Gwinnett certainly has the facility but it would take the current Gladiators ownership willing to buy an AHL team or having an NHL team that owns its AHL affiliate to move it to Gwinnett. So Charlotte could be screwed for a while.

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If Peoria does end up in Vancouver, this setup may be the best one possible given that it'd only last a year between uncertainity of where Calgary's affiliate ends up and the Adirondack move to Lehigh Valley.

Atlantic: STJ/POR/MCH/WOR/PRO
Northeast: ADK/ALB/SPR/HFD/BRI
East: BNG/WBS/HER/NOR/CHA
North: SYR/ROC/HAM/TOR/LKE
Midwest: GRR/CHI/RFD/MIL/IA
West: TEX/SA/OKC/ABB/VAN

If Calgary decides to stay out west after all, this would work very well as in 2014 there could be a simple swap between ADK/LV and BNG between divisions and it'd create a true Mid-Atlantic division. Also, under this alignment "Great Lakes" may be a better name for the North.

Also, has any team in the history of the AHL let alone any sport period has been as hosed in regards to alignment as the Charlotte Checkers? For a league where rivalries are king, being a division rival to more than half the teams in the league in a short span is just shameful.
it would be great of binghamton could get out of the east. the other divions would be a cake walk.

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I think the AHL is rotating Charlotte to show off the new team and build some rivals. I know that I like to see them in Milwaukee!
A team cannot build new rivals when it set of divisional rivals changes with each year. Norfolk's an outlier but they've at least tried to build rivalries with the Pennsylvania teams and had a budding rivalry with Charlotte going until the AHL made the Checkers the hot potato of the league.

Taking advantage of a city because of its position as an air hub is one thing, but rivals are built with stability which Charlotte doesn't have right now. Just watch them put them with the LKE/ROC/HAM/TOR pairing instead of doing the right thing which would be moving Syracuse over. And we deal with conferences in the AHL why?

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it would be great of binghamton could get out of the east. the other divions would be a cake walk.
In my alignment, BNG would have only one year left in the East and would take the spot vacated by Adirondack in the Northeast.


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I'm not going to even do the first iota of speculation or work on alignment until the roster of teams and cities is actually known. No clue where Peoria is going (if anywhere), and that could make major alignment difference.
Just bumping my original reply. It makes no sense to even try to solve the problematic issues until you know where all the problems are in this case.

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A team cannot build new rivals when it set of divisional rivals changes with each year. Norfolk's an outlier but they've at least tried to build rivalries with the Pennsylvania teams and had a budding rivalry with Charlotte going until the AHL made the Checkers the hot potato of the league.

Taking advantage of a city because of its position as an air hub is one thing, but rivals are built with stability which Charlotte doesn't have right now. Just watch them put them with the LKE/ROC/HAM/TOR pairing instead of doing the right thing which would be moving Syracuse over. And we deal with conferences in the AHL why?
Milwaukee played Charlotte 8 times this season. That is the same amount as Grand Rapids, who was in the same division as Milwaukee this year. While Charlotte was in a different division this season, in effect, they were the 6th team in the Midwest. Charlotte also played Peoria 8 times, Chicago 4 times, Rockford 4 times, Grand Rapids 2 times. That was 26 games against the Midwest Division.

Milwaukee played Texas 2 times, OKC 4 times, Houston 4 times and SA 2 times. So Charlotte was 8 out of the 20 games against the South Division for Milwaukee.

Rochester is the only team that I know for sure that splits their games between the two conferences. They didn't play Milwaukee, the only team in the WC that the Admirals did not play in 2012-13. They haven't played for a few years.

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Milwaukee played Charlotte 8 times this season. That is the same amount as Grand Rapids, who was in the same division as Milwaukee this year. While Charlotte was in a different division this season, in effect, they were the 6th team in the Midwest. Charlotte also played Peoria 8 times, Chicago 4 times, Rockford 4 times, Grand Rapids 2 times. That was 26 games against the Midwest Division.

Milwaukee played Texas 2 times, OKC 4 times, Houston 4 times and SA 2 times. So Charlotte was 8 out of the 20 games against the South Division for Milwaukee.

Rochester is the only team that I know for sure that splits their games between the two conferences. They didn't play Milwaukee, the only team in the WC that the Admirals did not play in 2012-13. They haven't played for a few years.
Correct. Rochester had 12 vs. HAM, 10 vs. SYR and TOR, 8 vs. ABB and BIN, 4 vs. LE/ADK/ALB, and 2 vs. WBS/HER/GR/TEX/HOU/SA/OKC

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I feel like the best set up at this point would be a 3 conference system

Western Conference: Texas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Iowa, Milwaukee, Chicago, Rockford, Abbotsford, Vancouver/Peoria, Grand Rapids

Eastern Conference: Lake Erie, Toronto, Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Adirondack/Lehigh Valley, Albany, Hershey, WBS

Atlantic Conference: St. John's, Portland, Manchester, Worcester, Providence, Springfield, Hartford, Bridgeport, Norfolk, Charlotte

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Syracuse moves into the North Division- Charlotte slides into the East Division

after that I would say since most likely as a temporary solution until next year when Vancouver and Calgary get everything worked out... just move Abbotsford into the South (since they are moving anyway in the next few years) that opens a spot for Grand Rapids in the North, Iowa fits into the Midwest.

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I feel like the best set up at this point would be a 3 conference system

Western Conference: Texas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Iowa, Milwaukee, Chicago, Rockford, Abbotsford, Vancouver/Peoria, Grand Rapids

Eastern Conference: Lake Erie, Toronto, Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Adirondack/Lehigh Valley, Albany, Hershey, WBS

Atlantic Conference: St. John's, Portland, Manchester, Worcester, Providence, Springfield, Hartford, Bridgeport, Norfolk, Charlotte
I like this arrangement!

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I like that arrangement too but how would the playoffs work?

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I like that arrangement too but how would the playoffs work?
1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, so on in the first round with conference. Reseed until a conference champion is crowned. Best of 3 for the two lower seeded conference champions to play top seeded conference champion in finals.

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With the NHL going to 2 divisions per conference, I could see the AHL doing the same

Chi, Rfd, Mke, SA, Tex, OKC, Iowa, Cha
LEM, Tor, Ham, Roc, GR, Abb, Van
Her, WBS, Bng, Syr, Nor, Adk, Alb
Stj, Man, Wor, Pro, Por, Spr, Hfd, Bri

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1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, so on in the first round with conference. Reseed until a conference champion is crowned. Best of 3 for the two lower seeded conference champions to play top seeded conference champion in finals.
So 24 teams make the playoffs? Yeah, that's not going to happen.

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So 24 teams make the playoffs? Yeah, that's not going to happen.
My idea is to have 16 teams in the playoffs, like now. I guess you take 1 to 16 and pair them off. Round 2 again has the highest seed play the lowest. In Round 3, you try to avoid teams from the same conference playing each other. It will work, but you could get 2 teams from the same conference in the finals, even if that is unlikely to happen. It should be a 1 in 4 chance.


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With the NHL going to 2 divisions per conference, I could see the AHL doing the same

Chi, Rfd, Mke, SA, Tex, OKC, Iowa, Cha
LEM, Tor, Ham, Roc, GR, Abb, Van
Her, WBS, Bng, Syr, Nor, Adk, Alb
Stj, Man, Wor, Pro, Por, Spr, Hfd, Bri
Move CHA in with the third group and this could work.

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