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05-05-2013, 10:26 PM
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Off topic somewhat. But whatever happened to lalibert?
David Laliberte? We traded him a while ago, IIRC. Idk, maybe I'm crazy.

Edit: Holy ****, the guys 27 already.

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Laliberte played in the DEL last season, then signed an AHL contract with the Phantoms this past season

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If Vancouver were run by the fans, Edler would be available for Couturier. Like I posted in another thread, if a playoff-disappointed team like the Canucks was looking to shake up their roster and/or drop some salary, Edler would be an excellent top-line puck-mover.

Another idea, probably a short-term solution, is Bouwmeester. Now that he isn't the go-to guy on a St. Louis squad that already has 2 #1s, and has a pretty sizable cap hit on an internal cap team, I think he could be had pretty cheaply. Bouwmeester has 1 year left at $6.68 million. I'd consider him to be a good option to give a drafted defenseman a year more in the minors.

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05-07-2013, 09:40 AM
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Rumblings of a Ryan Malone buyout in Tampa. I'd be interested if he's bought out depending on what he is looking for. He'd fit in nicely on a line with Schenn, methinks. Even a potential linemate for Giroux if Hartnell's play this year is indicative of his future play.

Malone/Hartnell-G-Voracek
Hartnell/Malone-Schenn-Read
Gagne-Couturier-Simmonds
Rinaldo-Laughton/Talbot-Mcginn/Talbot

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05-07-2013, 10:09 AM
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Pass on Malone. We already have Hartnell

we need a sniper

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05-07-2013, 10:18 AM
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Rumblings of a Ryan Malone buyout in Tampa. I'd be interested if he's bought out depending on what he is looking for. He'd fit in nicely on a line with Schenn, methinks. Even a potential linemate for Giroux if Hartnell's play this year is indicative of his future play.

Malone/Hartnell-G-Voracek
Hartnell/Malone-Schenn-Read
Gagne-Couturier-Simmonds
Rinaldo-Laughton/Talbot-Mcginn/Talbot
Homer said he wanted to get bigger and that could accomplish that. I wouldn't be against it at the right price. We would have three big wingers in hartnell Malone and Simmonds to spread over the top three lines.

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05-07-2013, 11:38 AM
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I am not a Malone fan at all. I would rather have Zubrus than Malone.

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05-07-2013, 11:43 AM
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Lundqvist is a free agent after next year. Flyers will sign him to 8 year deal and buy out Bryz. (P4)

Imagine the outrage from the New York Rangers fans if that were to occur.

Also I understand he is much much more likely to re-sign with the Rangers, just thinking how funny it would be.

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05-07-2013, 11:47 AM
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I am not a Malone fan at all. I would rather have Zubrus than Malone.
Homer loves to bring back former Flyers. I can absolutely see him offering Zubrus a contract and at the right price he could be a good addition.

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05-07-2013, 11:53 AM
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I am not a Malone fan at all. I would rather have Zubrus than Malone.
What is not to like about Ryan Malone? He's pretty much a lock for 20 goals (put him on a line with the right guys and I think that total could be even higher). His defense is not a concern from what I understand. He is a bige guy who actually uses his size effectively. Zubrus is probably better defensively, but I think overall Malone is the better player.

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05-07-2013, 12:28 PM
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if the Rangers dont resign him beforehand I think the Flyers will go after Clowe.
I dont think Holmgren is worried about the goal scoring so I doubt he goes after a sniper.
Then again he could go after the blossoming power forward, face off specialist Colton Orr

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05-07-2013, 12:30 PM
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If Edler is actually available this offseason I would definitely talk to Gillis about him

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If Jerome Iginla makes it to free agency you have to think Homer will try his best to get a hold of him. He would probably offer a 3 year deal too(which would be beyond stupid). He still will give you 30-40 goals a year, but will come in around 6-6.5 million per year I think. If he gets a three year deal, I could see that number closer to 6.

I really would target him first if I was Homer. Even though he is 35, he still supplies the Flyers with that first line winger that would compliment Giroux very nicely.

I would prefer Clowe to Clarkson and Malone too. Clowe will almost guarantee you 20 goals and 55-60 points per year. I wouldn't give him anything close to what he was asking for before the trade, but I wouldn't mind him on a 4-5 year deal.

The Flyers, after Briere is bought out, will be an extremely young team up front.

Next year with our players under contract(ages will be how old they to begin the 13-14 season)

Voracek-24
Giroux-25
Hartnell-31
Schenn-22
Couturier-21
Simmonds-25
Read-27
Rosehill-28
Rinaldo-23
Talbot-29

Players that will be fighting for a roster spot or will be call ups.

McGinn-23
Laughton-19
Akeson-23

We have an extremely young team up front with Briere bought out. I wouldn't be a bad idea for Homer to chase a player like Iggy or Clowe to bring some veteran leadership into that locker room.

Also another note to add. No team wants to head into the season relying on LTIR to get them under the cap. I believe we will see some changes on this team for cap purposes. Briere being bought out helps, but we still need to make more moves. Pronger takes 5 million of our cap space, which would leave with about 6.2 million in cap space. With Pronger LTIRed it would give us around 11. If we do target a player like Iggy, someone will be moved from our team to reassure we don't need LTIR to begin the year.

EDIT: This is a reason I think we could see a trade involving Mez or Coburn. We will try to get a younger/cheaper player who can supply the same offense and defense. We would probably have to make any trade for Mez conditional. Carolina and Edmonton would be two teams I target if I was Homer. Trade Mez for a 3rd rounder, but it becomes a 2nd rounder from the team if he plays more than 70 games. Something like that I could see a team doing. If it doesn't work out also, the team has the ability to let him walk at the end of the year.

EDIT2: The Flyers lineup(at least what I think we are looking at heading into this offseason.

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FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX /Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m)/ Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($1.200m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) / Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,224,762; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $4,875,238
If we pursue any type of scoring forward, something will have to give and a move will have to be made.


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05-07-2013, 12:59 PM
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Not interested in high cost per point +35 contracts in a year where Briere is being sacrificed to the CBA just climb out of the attic to touch the ceiling.

JK. Sign everyone.

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free agent list per capgeek

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05-07-2013, 01:05 PM
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Not interested in high cost per point +35 contracts in a year where Briere is being sacrificed to the CBA just climb out of the attic to touch the ceiling.

JK. Sign everyone.
Briere and Iginla are completely different players though. Briere we have all seen has hit the wall. Iggy still is showing he has his game, and looks to be able to continue this trend. Iggy with his number this year (.75 PPG) will give you say 60-70 points next year if he stays at that pace. He also is averaging more than that right now in the PO with 5 points in 3 games. Iggy also gives you someone who can be relied upon every year to give you a full season. 5 years in a row before this years lockout he has given 82 games. I really wouldn't mind seeing him in a Flyers jersey, we all know we will be interested in him if he makes it to the market.

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Briere and Iginla are completely different players though. Briere we have all seen has hit the wall. Iggy still is showing he has his game, and looks to be able to continue this trend. Iggy with his number this year (.75 PPG) will give you say 60-70 points next year if he stays at that pace. He also is averaging more than that right now in the PO with 5 points in 3 games. Iggy also gives you someone who can be relied upon every year to give you a full season. 5 years in a row before this years lockout he has given 82 games. I really wouldn't mind seeing him in a Flyers jersey, we all know we will be interested in him if he makes it to the market.
It's about money, age, contract length, injury risk, value, and the cap. Not Briere.

You already have wingers putting in .71 PPG+ (I'll give Hartnell an injury pass). However, no one denies Iggy would make them better and that the Flyers will have interest. The question is: Should they?

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It's about money, age, contract length, injury risk, value, and the cap. Not Briere.

You already have wingers putting in .71 PPG+ (I'll give Hartnell an injury pass). However, no one denies Iggy would make them better and that the Flyers will have interest. The question is: Should they?
I believe if they can make him fit cap wise, it's a no brainer. In my post up a little bit, we need to move salary almost regardless if we make any type of free agent pick up. We won't go into the season depending on LTIR from Pronger to get us under the cap. We will need to bank our cap to make trades at the deadline or near. Also will need more room to be able to call up players in case of injury. Of course this all would be no problem if Pronger would be allowed to be bought out because of his injury. I don't see the NHL giving us special permission to allow that though.

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If Edler is actually available this offseason I would definitely talk to Gillis about him
I'd be in to Edler if the price is right. I don't think he is the solution to the defense, but he certainly would help.

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I would love to add a sniper to Giroux-Voracek line but when I watched the playoffs I can't see this Flyers team survivng a long playoff run. I think they can beat any team with their talent when healthy but I think they would be ground down eventually. Their biggest hitter is 5'9" 188lbs(Rinaldo)even their one PF is under 200lbs (Simmonds). Look at a long series against OTT, WAS, or TOR then having to play BOS, NYR, or PITT.

Malone probably goes back to PITT. Clowe will likely ask too much $. I wouldn't think PHI would be a detination for Iginla. Maybe resign in PITT or go back west. I like Horton but he seems to be breaking down more often.

This is why I can see Homer doing something with the #11 pick to get Ryan and a later pick. Add a sniper and some size.

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I am not a Malone fan at all. I would rather have Zubrus than Malone.
Yeah, I like Zubrus better too. I'd make a proposed lineup based on the trade for Edler since I've been thinking about it. Nucks fans say our first and a roster player would be enough. They like Talbot and say that's exactly what they need. So based on that...

Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Couturier - Simmonds
Gagne - Read - Zubrus
Hall - Laughton - Rinaldo

Timonen - Schenn
Coburn - Edler
Grossmann - Meszaros

Bryz
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Malone seems increasingly prone to injury. That makes me wary.

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I would love to add a sniper to Giroux-Voracek line but when I watched the playoffs I can't see this Flyers team survivng a long playoff run. I think they can beat any team with their talent when healthy but I think they would be ground down eventually. Their biggest hitter is 5'9" 188lbs(Rinaldo)even their one PF is under 200lbs (Simmonds). Look at a long series against OTT, WAS, or TOR then having to play BOS, NYR, or PITT.

Malone probably goes back to PITT. Clowe will likely ask too much $. I wouldn't think PHI would be a detination for Iginla. Maybe resign in PITT or go back west. I like Horton but he seems to be breaking down more often.

This is why I can see Homer doing something with the #11 pick to get Ryan and a later pick. Add a sniper and some size.
These are the only teams that have a larger roster in size than ours. Neither Toronto or Pittsburgh have any toughness in their top 6 so I wouldn't worry about them either. The only guys the Rangers have are Clowe and Boyle. And Washington is just randomly tall but still lack a ton of grit.

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Malone seems increasingly prone to injury. That makes me wary.
Yeah that's true. Hasn't ever played a full 82. Didn't factor that in. I still would do it. I wouldn't overpay for him. Honestly I'm not sure what I would pay for him or what he would take. I'm thinking somewhere around $2-$3 million, but my guess is he will get more than that.

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Yeah that's true. Hasn't ever played a full 82. Didn't factor that in. I still would do it. I wouldn't overpay for him. Honestly I'm not sure what I would pay for him or what he would take. I'm thinking somewhere around $2-$3 million, but my guess is he will get more than that.
Yeah I like Malone, I'm just tired of seeing him injured all the time. I used to want him on the Flyers but at this point I don't want any more injury-people.

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