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05-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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You think Miller and Quick are flash in the pan goaltenders?

Sounds like you're just spoiled with Lundqvist.
The one consistent goalie up for the Vezina the past 6 years or so has been Hank. Most of the other players have rotated.

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Congrats on Hank. Most consistent goalie in the NHL.

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Obviously hope Lundqvist wins. I'm okay if Bob takes it. If Niemi takes it I'd be furious. He's not even a finalist in my book.

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You think Miller and Quick are flash in the pan goaltenders?

Sounds like you're just spoiled with Lundqvist.
They're above average.

But look at their body of work this year. Is that impressive to you? Lundqvist would be getting crucified on this board if he had a .902 sv%.

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Congrats to Henke! I don't think he'll win it since sheriff Bob was nominated, but it's great to see him consistently mentioned as one of the best in the league.

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Good thing the PO's have no bearing on the voting process.
Getting there certainly does...

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Like I said already, watch out, the teams did not play the other conference this season. (2) Western goalies could mean split votes from the West for Niemi and Bob. (1) Eastern goalie. Who do you think most Eastern GM's are going to vote for?

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05-08-2013, 01:17 PM
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I see Hank winning this. Only eastern goalie, and the fact remains that the Blue Jackets didn't make the playoffs. It's also not like Sergei completely blew Lundqvist out of the water with his stats. They were almost even.

Hank will win it, followed by Sergei and then Niemi.

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05-08-2013, 01:20 PM
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What would the arguments to give it to Niemi over Lundqvist be? 2 more shutouts? Reading the sharks board seems most of them are convinced it's between Niemi or Bob, and only way Lundqvist could win is east-coast bias.

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This is the same situation when Lundy was having a ridiculous year and Thomas won it the previous yr but they still gave him the award on pedigree.. Hank should win this... Niemi's and bobs stats are good but he's not the best and ones not even in the playoffs. If hank wasn't so good and CONSISTENT I doubt we make the playoffs this yr since we struggled so much with key guys.. All said and done hank is our back bone it will be an all time great!! Deserves the nod

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GMs all love Henke

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Because there's always a flash in the pan goalie that goes back to obscurity soon after and makes Lundqvist's consistently good seasons look average.

Miller. Quick. Now Bobrovsky.
It's a trophy awarded to the best goalie for that season. Miller and Quick aren't flash in the pan goalies. Miller is a nut job, but he's been elite for many years. Quick is a proven #1 as well. Just because he had a bit of a cup hangover this year doesn't change that.

The Hall of Fame is for consistency.

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It's a trophy awarded to the best goalie for that season. Miller and Quick aren't flash in the pan goalies. Miller is a nut job, but he's been elite for many years. Quick is a proven #1 as well. Just because he had a bit of a cup hangover this year doesn't change that.

The Hall of Fame is for consistency.
I know it's a seasonal award. I just hate flashes in the pan taking the Vezina every year.

And I didn't mean that Miller and Quick are Dipietro. They're just not the best goalies in the league. (And I like Miller)

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For days I've been hearing and reading from fans and reporters that Braden Holtby has been Henrik Lundqvist's equal in the Caps-Rangers first round series. Before game 3, many even said he was outplaying "The King." Really? Not sure what games these people have been watching. In the 1-0 Caps win in game 2, Henrik had a half dozen highlight reel saves and Holtby bragged about not breaking a sweat. Don't get me wrong, I have no animosity toward Holtby. In fact, I enjoy his approach and demeanor and think he has the potential to be a number one goalie. But he's not there yet and Henrik was just nominated for the Vezina for his 5th time in 8 seasons. Swap goalies in this series and the Caps would be going for the sweep tonight. The silliness from the Washington Post, Comcast cheerleaders (they call themselves sportscasters), and a number of loud mouth fans I sat next to on Saturday was becoming more than I could handle. Had to get this off my chest. Win or lose, there's is zero question about who is the far superior goalie in this series.

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I want Hank to win this award as much as anyone, but I don't understand the consistent goalie for 6 years argument. Isn't the trophy awarded for best goalie in THIS season and this 2012-2013 season alone?

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05-08-2013, 02:20 PM
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I agree Hank may win this thing based on pedigree, but if Bob wins there can be no complaints. I watched a number of Blue Jackets games this year and most of the games down the stretch, and Bob was incredible.

Holtby outplayed Hank the first two games, but Holtby stunk in game three. Hoping for more stinkage...

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For days I've been hearing and reading from fans and reporters that Braden Holtby has been Henrik Lundqvist's equal in the Caps-Rangers first round series. Before game 3, many even said he was outplaying "The King." Really? Not sure what games these people have been watching. In the 1-0 Caps win in game 2, Henrik had a half dozen highlight reel saves and Holtby bragged about not breaking a sweat. Don't get me wrong, I have no animosity toward Holtby. In fact, I enjoy his approach and demeanor and think he has the potential to be a number one goalie. But he's not there yet and Henrik was just nominated for the Vezina for his 5th time in 8 seasons. Swap goalies in this series and the Caps would be going for the sweep tonight. The silliness from the Washington Post, Comcast cheerleaders (they call themselves sportscasters), and a number of loud mouth fans I sat next to on Saturday was becoming more than I could handle. Had to get this off my chest. Win or lose, there's is zero question about who is the far superior goalie in this series.
Yeah, just ignore the homers down here. The Caps are the trendy thing to be into, and everyone is pumping Holtby's tires. Typical DC idiocy.

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I want Hank to win this award as much as anyone, but I don't understand the consistent goalie for 6 years argument. Isn't the trophy awarded for best goalie in THIS season and this 2012-2013 season alone?
So?

It is rewarded for the season, however I wouldn't be surprised if GM's take into consideration a players consistency when voting for this kind of thing.

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The playoff shouldn't matter for Bob. When he took over the starting job from that scrub Mason, the BJs were 30th in the league. After taking over, the BJ had the 2nd best record in the WC from about the 20-game mark.

Bob for Vezina and Hart. Easy call IMO.

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This is a 2 man race between Bob and Hank. Niemi absolutely does not deserve it over them.

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05-08-2013, 02:45 PM
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What would the arguments to give it to Niemi over Lundqvist be? 2 more shutouts? Reading the sharks board seems most of them are convinced it's between Niemi or Bob, and only way Lundqvist could win is east-coast bias.
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This is a 2 man race between Bob and Hank. Niemi absolutely does not deserve it over them.
Niemi, Crawford and Anderson had the best 7 game starts of any of the NHL goalies.

Take out those first 7 games of Niemi's in a mid season start up and his numbers were just 'good'.

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The only stat that gets you into the playoffs is W-L.
you need to stop homering with no logic. Homering is acceptable when it comes with logic and acknowledgement of homerism and humor but it just feels like you're trying to shove the Vezina down Henrik's throat.

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good thing the Flyers traded Bobrovsky although they were stupid to do so if the Flyers kept Bobrovsky and became their #1 maybe they would have made the playoffs.... Bryzgalov has been bad this year and a distraction.. good luck with that....
He'd still be playing in front of that defense though. I don't think it's a given that he would have had the same kind of season with the Flyers.

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Philly is truly the goalie graveyard. Bob doesn't have a Vezina season in Philly.

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05-08-2013, 03:07 PM
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Im thinking Lundqvist wins it. I think some GMs are going to give Lundqvist the nod over Bob. Both had almost identical stats but Lundqvist has been consistent for years, which I think they will end up factoring in.

The main board cant understand how Lundqvist was nominated

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