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05-07-2013, 08:10 PM
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Or 2011-12 was an anomaly that set higher than necessary expectations....
Considering the season before that I would say that this year is the anomaly.

I agree with Enoch. Making the playoffs essentially makes you a contender especially with Pekka. Yes there are the Chicago's and Pittsburgh's but they will not have cap space. Heck look at Vancouver, they were a contender for several years and never won now they could be swept in the first round tonight.

Speaking of Vancouver, they need a change, what about us trying to trade for the Sedins? We are one of the few teams that could afford them in both assets and cap space.

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05-07-2013, 08:18 PM
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Barry Trotz would hang the Sedins in the press box by their nuts.

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Barry Trotz would hang the Sedins in the press box by their nuts.
Gotta have 'em before you can get hung by 'em.

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05-07-2013, 11:58 PM
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Barry Trotz would hang the Sedins in the press box by their nuts.
Based on what? Both are frequent PKers, both play a strong defensive game...

Not that I think they are going anywhere.

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05-08-2013, 09:27 AM
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Considering the season before that I would say that this year is the anomaly.

I agree with Enoch. Making the playoffs essentially makes you a contender especially with Pekka. Yes there are the Chicago's and Pittsburgh's but they will not have cap space. Heck look at Vancouver, they were a contender for several years and never won now they could be swept in the first round tonight.

Speaking of Vancouver, they need a change, what about us trying to trade for the Sedins? We are one of the few teams that could afford them in both assets and cap space.
On a bizarre side thought idear if Vancouver has a fire-sale, what about trading to get Hamhuis back to solidify our 2nd pair? If there are changes there, I would think he'd be available for the right young defensive prospects...

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05-08-2013, 09:32 AM
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On a bizarre side thought idear if Vancouver has a fire-sale, what about trading to get Hamhuis back to solidify our 2nd pair? If there are changes there, I would think he'd be available for the right young defensive prospects...
I miss Hammer, he's a great human being and a great hockey player...but for whatever reason, that Kleinhuis pairing NEVER worked.

but again, that's not the sort of player they'll look to trade. Edler is the name on D that seems to be available...but the cost to get him would be significant, which is too bad. He also makes a lot of money.

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05-08-2013, 10:38 AM
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I miss Hammer, he's a great human being and a great hockey player...but for whatever reason, that Kleinhuis pairing NEVER worked.

but again, that's not the sort of player they'll look to trade. Edler is the name on D that seems to be available...but the cost to get him would be significant, which is too bad. He also makes a lot of money.
couple of points I would like to put out for debate..

1. While yes, Klein and Hamhuis didn't look good together, could the maturity of Klein's game make it work now? I want to believe it could.

2. them trading Edler would be akin to us trading Weber 3-4 years ago. Don't know how old Edler is, but I think he is on his 2nd RFA deal. Just as many here would have rather had Weber over Suter due to skill set, the exact arguement could be made between Hamhuis and Edler. Although I don't think either of those guys are Vancouver's problem. they need a little heart and soul in their lineup and to pick a goalie.

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05-08-2013, 10:55 AM
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couple of points I would like to put out for debate..

1. While yes, Klein and Hamhuis didn't look good together, could the maturity of Klein's game make it work now? I want to believe it could.

2. them trading Edler would be akin to us trading Weber 3-4 years ago. Don't know how old Edler is, but I think he is on his 2nd RFA deal. Just as many here would have rather had Weber over Suter due to skill set, the exact arguement could be made between Hamhuis and Edler. Although I don't think either of those guys are Vancouver's problem. they need a little heart and soul in their lineup and to pick a goalie.
I'm not saying I agree that trading Edler is the right way to go...just what's being talked about in VAN media. If anything, I would move Ballard, Bieksa, and, if there's any way(compliance buyout) undo that awful Garrison contract. I would be looking to keep Edler, Hamhuis and Tanev, in particular.

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05-08-2013, 11:16 AM
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I agree, Hamhuis, Edler and Tanev is how I would go too.

Ballard would be the first one I'd exit out.

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05-08-2013, 12:19 PM
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something dradtic has to happen with them. They have 17 guys signed for next year and are 100k over the cap already with 4 RFA that will cost roughly 4.5-5 million. Granted, they can cut 5.3 million off by trading Luongo, and gisning thos guys, but that is 21 players and at the cap.

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that is thier forward core as they stand now after you take the UFA out of it. 12 guys making 4 million or more. Lu plus Ballard will give them some breathing room, but not enough to make real imporvements. I would buy out Booth as well as Ballard.

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something dradtic has to happen with them. They have 17 guys signed for next year and are 100k over the cap already with 4 RFA that will cost roughly 4.5-5 million. Granted, they can cut 5.3 million off by trading Luongo, and gisning thos guys, but that is 21 players and at the cap.

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Higgins-Kesler-Booth
Hansen-Weise-Kassian
Shroeder-Sestito-Sweat

that is thier forward core as they stand now after you take the UFA out of it. 12 guys making 4 million or more. Lu plus Ballard will give them some breathing room, but not enough to make real imporvements. I would buy out Booth as well as Ballard.
I think that Ballard(4.5) and Luongo are for sure gone this summer. They've got a few guys on ELCs that come up...Niklas Jensen at F and Frankie Corrado on D.

If need be, they can lose Booth and be okay.

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05-08-2013, 12:24 PM
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something dradtic has to happen with them. They have 17 guys signed for next year and are 100k over the cap already with 4 RFA that will cost roughly 4.5-5 million. Granted, they can cut 5.3 million off by trading Luongo, and gisning thos guys, but that is 21 players and at the cap.

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Hansen-Weise-Kassian
Shroeder-Sestito-Sweat

that is thier forward core as they stand now after you take the UFA out of it. 12 guys making 4 million or more. Lu plus Ballard will give them some breathing room, but not enough to make real imporvements. I would buy out Booth as well as Ballard.
That's what I've heard as well ... would you go after Ballard in FA (3 mil per for 5 years) ? ... Would you also go after David Clarkson ? ... I love the way dude plays ... I'd give him a 6 year deal (ends at age 35 for around 5 per)

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I think that Ballard(4.5) and Luongo are for sure gone this summer. They've got a few guys on ELCs that come up...Niklas Jensen at F and Frankie Corrado on D.

If need be, they can lose Booth and be okay.

This. I'm not sure why everyone is thinking they have to drop some of their top talent to get under the cap.

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05-08-2013, 01:16 PM
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Clarkson=Hornqvist. Extremely similar players. I personally think you can never have enough of them and would love to add him, but if someone offers 4.5mil...see ya.

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Clarkson=Hornqvist. Extremely similar players. I personally think you can never have enough of them and would love to add him, but if someone offers 4.5mil...see ya.
What is clarksons career high in goals?

Nevermind, just checked, he had thirty two seasons ago, pretty impressive!

Lets rid of hornqvist and just take him! Lol

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I would take Hamhuis back in a heartbeat if we can afford to pay 4.5 mil for a 2nd pair D man

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What is clarksons career high in goals?

Nevermind, just checked, he had thirty two seasons ago, pretty impressive!

Lets rid of hornqvist and just take him! Lol
Let's get rid of SK and take him instead.

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What is clarksons career high in goals?

Nevermind, just checked, he had thirty two seasons ago, pretty impressive!

Lets rid of hornqvist and just take him! Lol
ok just saw the LOL... was getting ready to suggest you adjust your meds if you think we should or would consider dumping Hornqvist

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Clarkson would actually be a great addition. We need another Hornqvist on PP2. Remember when Trotz put Yip there....eesh.

Not a priority, but someone I'd like to see Poile call on July 1.

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This. I'm not sure why everyone is thinking they have to drop some of their top talent to get under the cap.
because they are 100K over the cap with 17 players signed and RFAs to re-up. That is why. Not to mention, they will more than likely take some sort of NHL salary back in a Luongo or Schnieder deal. I would think they would want to retool the roster rather than go into next season less talented and less gritty than they already are. Vancouver is in trouble.

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An article I saw on Twitter suggests that the Canucks are a great team to look at, and that Mason Raymond or Derek Roy would fit great in Nashville.

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An article I saw on Twitter suggests that the Canucks are a great team to look at, and that Mason Raymond or Derek Roy would fit great in Nashville.
derek roy, sure. raymond, no.

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An article I saw on Twitter suggests that the Canucks are a great team to look at, and that Mason Raymond or Derek Roy would fit great in Nashville.
Yeah, they're going to have to buy out Luongo, Ballard & Booth just to get where they want/need to be.

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derek roy, sure. raymond, no.
Other teams could be looking to Roy too, could be expensive.

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Other teams could be looking to Roy too, could be expensive.
oh for sure. hefty cost

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