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05-08-2013, 08:13 PM
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Suggest you look closely at my avatar. It features the Doug Harvey card from the Hockey Hall of Fame Collection, last issued in 1987 the year before Guy Lafleur entered the HHOF. Trust you can do a search of the 261 subjects and find the link between the players, builders and the induction ceremony or ritual at the time in question. It was as described.
The HHOF does not have players enter as a member of a certain team. The only exceptions are those players who were inducted immediately upon retirement and we still property of that team (Gretzky entered the Hall as a Ranger, technically; IIRC he had more time on his contract).

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The HHOF does not have players enter as a member of a certain team. The only exceptions are those players who were inducted immediately upon retirement and we still property of that team (Gretzky entered the Hall as a Ranger, technically; IIRC he had more time on his contract).
Suggest you consider the pre 1990 period in a different light as HHOF procedures were very different.

Also consider that in different era, players usually signed one year contracts and upon retirement had to sign "retirement papers" - another topic you might wish to explore

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The Lafleur handling and Wickerheiser also was reason Lemieux did not want to play for Montreal.
Was there ever a realistic opportunity where Lemieux could join Montreal? I know Savard wanted to trade for the #1 pick but Pittsburgh were not interested.

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By the way, C58 is right about the Habs-Nords rivalry. It was enormous in Quebec, especially in the early 80s, maybe as charged as any rivalry has been in the history of hockey. The two teams, organizations and fanbases loathed each other. In Quebec that pitted brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor, town against town. There were (and are) Nordique fans in Montreal and Canadiens fans in Quebec.

The Habs were a haughty and satisfied at the time and coming off that incredible run from 53-79 when they won 16 Cups in 27 years they felt they didn't have to do anything they didn't want to. So when the Nordiques came in and were brash, clad themselves in the province's flag, played into the sovereignty angle, had as many or more Quebec players than the Habs and had O'Keefe's money behind them, they shook some feathers. They were good enough to knock off the Habs a few times and marketed themselves across the province very well. I can't find out for sure but I think they played a lot of pre-season games across the province, something the Habs wouldn't do.

Lafleur, the pride of Quebec City from his Remparts days, would have been a huge marketing coup for the Nordiques as well as adding extra offensive oomph that could have made the Nordiques a real contender.

Eventually the Habs overhauled their marketing operations (you can basically date the Montreal Canadiens marketing machine to this time), the Nordiques became one of the worst teams in the league and so when Guy finally donned the fleur-de-lys it wasn't a big deal. But at the time you could see where Corey was coming from.

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Was there ever a realistic opportunity where Lemieux could join Montreal? I know Savard wanted to trade for the #1 pick but Pittsburgh were not interested.
A few seasons earlier Montreal had acquired Hartford's #1 pick in an attempt to draft Lemieux. As early as 16 Lemieux was known future great. I read a hockey news interview several years later where Mario did not want to go to Montreal. Over the Lafleur affair and Wickenheiser handling.

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