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05-09-2013, 08:34 PM
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2013 Post-Mortem - Bergevin's Best/Worst Moves

So, now that the season is done, what do you think of Marc Bergevin's first year as Habs GM?

What do you think were his best, what were his worst, moves?

Best:
- Signing Subban
- Re-structuring the coaching staff

Worst:
- Signing Bouillon and offering him an extension
- Giving Desharnais an early extension

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So, now that the season is done, what do you think of Marc Bergevin's first year as Habs GM?

What do you think were his best, what were his worst, moves?

Best:
- Signing Subban
- Re-structuring the coaching staff

Worst:
- Signing Bouillon and offering him an extension
- Giving Desharnais an early extension
That was a stupid move and many people called it from day 1. Subban is gonna cost much more now that he would have if he was signed to a longer term contract like he wanted (BTW, he wasn't asking for too much given the contracts that are signed in this league these days).

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4 more years of Desharnias was a HUGE mistake.. especially at 3.5M per year, thats aweful..

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He made the team smaller, weaker and less physical. After years of being the smallest team in the league we start to move away from it and then he took another step backwards.

Gionta, Desharnais and Boullion need to be gone. DD is looking like a better buyout candidate than Kaberle who isn't even allowed to play!

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So, now that the season is done, what do you think of Marc Bergevin's first year as Habs GM?

What do you think were his best, what were his worst, moves?

Best:
- Signing Subban
- Re-structuring the coaching staff

Worst:
- Signing Bouillon and offering him an extension
- Giving Desharnais an early extension
As the poster above said. This was horrible in hindsight and a number of us called it. Subban is going to demand a huge ransom and now he'll get - from us or another team offersheeting him. We lost an opportunity to lock him long term at $5.5-6 million. Now he'll demand seven or more.

While I understand BG's approach at the deadline. I do believe we should have made a few more depth moves; look for another Prust (Talbot comes to mind) because the physicality burden was just too much for him.

I also am a bit disconcerted over how Therrien's responded to our dreadful play - backing our way into the playoffs. His insistence to play Desharnais and Pacioretty together all year did nothing to alleviate those concerns.

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If bouillon is a healthy scratch I won't care. Deharnais on the other hand, thats bad. just plain bad.

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That was a stupid move and many people called it from day 1. Subban is gonna cost much more now that he would have if he was signed to a longer term contract like he wanted (BTW, he wasn't asking for too much given the contracts that are signed in this league these days).
This, plus the fact that Bergevin was playing with fire in the first place. He got lucky that Subban either wasn't offered or didn't sign an enormous offer sheet from Philly or another team.

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Desharnais for 4 years is a huge mistake.

Price for a 6.5 millions cap hit is hard to justify.

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Please get rid of Gionta and DD. change the face of the team, replacing those two with Clarkson and anyone else would satisfy me almost as much as a Stanley cup.

Sick and tired of ****ing useless ***** soft midgets. Get the **** out

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This, plus the fact that Bergevin was playing with fire in the first place. He got lucky that Subban either wasn't offered or didn't sign an enormous offer sheet from Philly or another team.
This is the only reason why I put it as a positive.

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Premature thread is premature. Has anybody listened to anything he or any of his staff has said since he was hired?

Good grief.

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I'll wait till next year to judge Desharnais.
Bouillon being signed half way through the year makes no sense.

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anyone hat thinks this team is a couple of players away from being a contender is delusinal. The last two months including the playoffs they have been blown out almost every second game. To small and soft on the D, to soft and small on the front and goaltending is a question mark. Coaching needs to be looked at as well.

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Worst moves:
Not trading Gionta.
Re-signing Desharnais/Bouillon.
Signing Armstrong.
Signing Moen.
Signing Therrien.

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Worst moves:
Not trading Gionta.
Re-signing Desharnais/Bouillon.
Signing Armstrong.
Signing Moen.
Signing Therrien.
Not so good. New GM same crap.

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Subban, Prust and the Gallys were the best part of the season for me, lots of work for M.B. this off season .

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Need a lot of changes.

Re-signing guys early was just dumb.

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Think an excellent year, a joke and laughing stock last year, a playoff team this year.

We have a way to go to be a contender but he has a core of :

Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Subban, Pacioretty, Eller. Price

Although Price was below average goalie this year, he will likely bounce back ( lets hope ).

We know Gally will be a top two line center, I now think Eller might be a decent 2nd liner, both with some decent size. We have a top d-man, and a decent hopefully goalie. Core is young and can build around for next 5 years.

Now, see what you can get for DD, Plekanec, Gionta, etc. and get bigger while building around the core.

Overall, impressed very much with Bergevin so far.

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He has much work to do, but less than when he took the job. No monstrous mistakes in his first year at the helm.

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I'd add the Cole trade to best. Also, not trading any of our top draft picks at the deadline.

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He has much work to do, but less than when he took the job. No monstrous mistakes in his first year at the helm.
This. It's a known fact he's waiting for contracts to run out too. He inherited a lot of crap ones.

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Worst moves:
Not trading Gionta.
Re-signing Desharnais/Bouillon.
Signing Armstrong.
Signing Moen.
Signing Therrien.
WTK I always keep faith that one day you'll smarten up but you keep disappointing me.

1) in what world a GM would trade his captain at the deadline when your team stands 2nd in the conference?

2) how the hell was Therrien a bad signing when he leads a team that finished 15th last year to a 2nd place?

Concerning Bouillon, I don't think it's a bad signing considering he's going to be our 7th defenseman.

From your list I think the DD and Moen signings are the only ones that can be considered bad moves because they were signed for too long.

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Good moves:
-tried to get Torres at the deadline
-called up Tinordi & Beaulieu at the right times & gave them confidence
-...tried to add toughness by claiming Cool Ranch Sestitos
-didn't try to do too much, I guess that can be a good thing
-Halpern
-overpaying to sign Prust(obvs)
-getting rid of Gomez(another obvs)

Bad:
-traded away the only other forward than Gallagher that would go to the dirty areas to score, didn't replace him
-Colby Armstrong took up a roster spot all year
-didn't trade Diaz when his value was high
-threw mad cash at DD like he was on a game show
-re-signed Bouillon as the supposed sheriff on the back end & called it a day
-didn't want Westgarth, MacLaren or Kassian for free


Jesus what does it say when 3 of my goodies are right intention?


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He traded Cole, he was forcing the issue right off the bat with Gomez, would have bubble-wrapped him if the rule-change wasn't in place, and then he stuck to his guns firm in the conviction that Kaberle is the next buyout. All good calls that put us in great shape on the cap, from a situation that was pretty awful.

The Desharnais contract was unnecessarily generous to the player, and the whole Subban situation was unneccessarily harsh on the player. I don't know that either of those really affected us this season. But could well affect us down the road.

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