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05-02-2013, 01:36 PM
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**** "Super"

Best fighters amongst STAR players:

Iginla
Chara
Benn
Kovalchuk
Thornton

Not in order.

Weber should do better in fights.
Laughing at Perry getting any notice, whatsoever! Beat Datsyuk, if you can.

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05-02-2013, 05:29 PM
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Superstars:
Crosby
Malkin
Nash
Iginla
Kovalchuk
Giroux
Weber
Ovechkin

Does Lucic fit in there?
I guess if this is the type of guy you mean--the guys who can crack 1st and 2nd team all-stars plus Rick Nash, the answer is probably Chara.

That said, I'd sure like to see who'd win in an Iggy vs Kovalchuk bout.

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05-03-2013, 01:05 PM
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Yes.
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Even though he is not a superstar, Chris Stewart throws well and with mean intentions.

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Milan Lucic
I believe the term used was Superstar?

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05-09-2013, 09:23 PM
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Joe Thornton should be the answer for current players, it's between him and Iginla and I would put my money on Jumbo, but that's more my homer speaking.

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05-10-2013, 06:50 AM
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Homer vote: When Bergeron fought Josh Gorges, that was one of the more memorable fights with a "superstar" involved.

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05-10-2013, 08:09 AM
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Joe Thornton should be the answer for current players, it's between him and Iginla and I would put my money on Jumbo, but that's more my homer speaking.
When thinking of Iginla and Thornton, Jamie Benn immediately comes to mind. He is up there with the best. One tough SOB.

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05-10-2013, 09:46 AM
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Kovalchuk is strong as an ox.

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05-10-2013, 11:02 AM
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Yes. He's one of the most popular players in the league; he's had had a top 10 jersey seller for several years now. Voted by his peers as the toughest player in the league and the second toughest forward to play against. Leads a Stanley Cup winning and contending team in goals the past two seasons. Best power forward in the league. Big guys who can fit and score get compared to Lucic in their draft years. He epitomizes the Bruins, a blue collared franchise that glorifies player's toughness and ability. The kid is a superstar.
Best powerforward in the league? NO FREAKING WAY.

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05-10-2013, 05:27 PM
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Best powerforward in the league? NO FREAKING WAY.
Who is a better power-forward than Milan Lucic (currently)?

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05-10-2013, 07:49 PM
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Who is a better power-forward than Milan Lucic (currently)?
Ladd, Benn, Neal, Getzlaf, Simmonds, Kane, Perry, Stewart, Backes, Iginla, Nash... the list goes on. Lucic has been nothing short of horrible this season.

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Ladd, Benn, Neal, Getzlaf, Simmonds, Kane, Perry, Stewart, Backes, Iginla, Nash... the list goes on. Lucic has been nothing short of horrible this season.
I would not consider Andrew Ladd, Jamie Benn, Ryan Getzlaf, Evander Kane, Corey Perry, David Backes, Rick Nash, and James Neal power-forwards.

They do not fight often enough to be considered as one. Although Milan Lucic is having a poor season, I would consider him the power-forward in hockey.


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05-11-2013, 04:49 AM
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Who is a better power-forward than Milan Lucic (currently)?
Alex Ovechkin, Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Bobby Ryan, Jamie Benn, David Backes, Ryan Callahan, Joe Thornton, Dustin Brown, Eric Staal, Andrew Ladd, Chris Kunitz, James Neal, Rick Nash and so on, and so forth...

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I would not consider Andrew Ladd, Jamie Benn, Ryan Getzlaf, Evander Kane, Corey Perry, David Backes, Rick Nash, and James Neal power-forwards.

They do not fight often enough to be considered as one. Although Milan Lucic is having a poor season, I would consider him the power-forward in hockey.
You are obviously having some severe difficulties with the definition of a power forward (hint: fighting often is not a prerequisite). Playing strong, physical hockey, and being able to throw around some weight on the other hand...

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You are obviously having some severe difficulties with the definition of a power forward (hint: fighting often is not a prerequisite). Playing strong, physical hockey, and being able to throw around some weight on the other hand...
Yes, it actually is a need. The definition of a power-forward has changed, the reason is that the amount of true power-forwards have strongly decrease over the last ten years. I do not understand why you are showing frustration in your post?

True power-fowards are players like Eric Lindros, Rick Tocchet, Cam Neely, and Wendel Clark.

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If Jamie Benn is considered a superstar I'm not sure why Backes hasn't been mentioned here yet.

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There should be 2 definitive types of power forwards. The non-intimidating big, skilled forward, and those who are actually are power forwards.

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05-12-2013, 03:02 AM
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Yes, it actually is a need. The definition of a power-forward has changed, the reason is that the amount of true power-forwards have strongly decrease over the last ten years. I do not understand why you are showing frustration in your post?

True power-fowards are players like Eric Lindros, Rick Tocchet, Cam Neely, and Wendel Clark.
You are applying the qualitites of a 4th line "tough guy" to the definition of a power forward.

I suspect the intention is to more easily make the argument that Lucic is the top power forward in the NHL (which he definitely is not). And if you canīt agree that any of the above mentioned players are power forwards, I really have nothing more to say. I am not frustrated, I am perplexed.

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You are applying the qualitites of a 4th line "tough guy" to the definition of a power forward.

I suspect the intention is to more easily make the argument that Lucic is the top power forward in the NHL (which he definitely is not). And if you canīt agree that any of the above mentioned players are power forwards, I really have nothing more to say. I am not frustrated, I am perplexed.
Go onto Google's search engine, and search the definition of a "power-forward" in hockey. The majority of the websites will mention that the willingness to drop the gloves is a key characteristic of a power-forward. Too many users on HFboards assume that a talented and physical forward that plays first/second-line minutes is considered a "power-forward" (however, the forward is not willing to drop the gloves). How can I take your list of "power-forwards" seriously when you considered Eric Staal and James Neal as power-forwards.



These are players that I would consider as power-forwards in today's game:



Milan Lucic, Ryane Clowe, (potential) Marcus Foligno, (potential) Zack Kassian, and Jarome Iginla.

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Go onto Google's search engine, and search the definition of a "power-forward" in hockey. The majority of the websites will mention that the willingness to drop the gloves is a key characteristic of a power-forward. Too many users on HFboards assume that a talented and physical forward that plays first/second-line minutes is considered a "power-forward" (however, the forward is not willing to drop the gloves). How can I take your list of "power-forwards" seriously when you considered Eric Staal and James Neal as power-forwards.



These are players that I would consider as power-forwards in today's game:



Milan Lucic, Ryane Clowe, (potential) Marcus Foligno, (potential) Zack Kassian, and Jarome Iginla.
Yeah, I am not relying Google to define a power forward... A power forward to me is a player that plays physical hockey, and uses his body to create plays, create momentum (again: does NOT need to be a fight), and does so on a regular basis.

Again, how can you exclude every single player from my previous list as A) a power forward, and B) a better player than Lucic? I understand you like Lucic and all, but it is certainly not a knock on him to say that Ryan Getzlaf, or Jamie Benn are far superior players/power forwards...

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Yeah, I am not relying Google to define a power forward... A power forward to me is a player that plays physical hockey, and uses his body to create plays, create momentum (again: does NOT need to be a fight), and does so on a regular basis.

Again, how can you exclude every single player from my previous list as A) a power forward, and B) a better player than Lucic? I understand you like Lucic and all, but it is certainly not a knock on him to say that Ryan Getzlaf, or Jamie Benn are far superior players/power forwards...
When did I stated that Milan Lucic was a better player than the "power-forwards" you mentioned? I am fully aware that Ryan Getzlaf, Jamie Benn and the other players you mentioned are better all-around players than Milan Lucic. However, I do not consider them power-forwards because they rarely fight.

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When did I stated that Milan Lucic was a better player than the "power-forwards" you mentioned? I am fully aware that Ryan Getzlaf, Jamie Benn and the other players you mentioned are better all-around players than Milan Lucic. However, I do not consider them power-forwards because they rarely fight.
Well there must only be a handful of your "power forwards" in the NHL if you don't consider most of the listed ones...

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Well there must only be a handful of your "power forwards" in the NHL if you don't consider most of the listed ones...
What players would you consider power-forwards in today's NHL.?

People have different definitions for power-forwards.

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