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Are the Blues the Chicago Cubs of hockey?

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05-09-2013, 11:54 PM
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One of these days the Cubs will win it all and then they'll stop being used for examples like this.

One can dream...

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05-10-2013, 12:28 AM
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One of these days the Cubs will win it all and then they'll stop being used for examples like this.

One can dream...
No they won't.

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05-10-2013, 12:39 AM
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No, and this talking point is why I hate st. louis sports talk.
This.

And it took people from other cities to help us get some damn perspective for once (or at least those of us who believe in this moronic comparison) and help us further realize the holes and fallacies in comparing these two franchises.

I'm not sure how we even came up with this comparison in the first place, nor do I care.

If anything, we're more like the Buffalo Bills:

-4 straight apperances in the finals/super bowl

-Horrendous (almost cursed) luck in the playoffs ("Music City Miracle" and "Wide Right" for the Bills, the Yzerman goal and the Bergevin own goal for us, for example)

-No championships.

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05-10-2013, 12:40 AM
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The series is not over.

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05-10-2013, 12:41 AM
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No but the Oilers are the Toronto Blue Jays of hockey

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05-10-2013, 12:41 AM
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The series is not over.
Oh, trust me. It is.

Knowing the Blues pattern of luck in the playoffs, it is. I could go on, but I'll stop it here.

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05-10-2013, 12:47 AM
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NO one even comes close to the disaster that is National League baseball in chicago
What about the Pirates?

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05-10-2013, 12:55 AM
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Steve Bartman will jump onto the ice and block the game-winning goal for the Blues.

And a goat will come out of nowhere, etc, etc.

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05-10-2013, 12:55 AM
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They're not the same.. but the Blues are the only team that is 0-12 in the Finals.(Games, not appearances)
blues should not have been in those series, but a weak team in the finals was a necessary result of having all the expansion teams in 1 division.

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25 year playoff streak...
would not be possible without the crappy norris division in '80s and having 16 of 21 teams make the playoffs.

blues were well below .500 several times, but made the playoffs.

in '83, STL was 15 games below .500 with a goal differential of -31, but made the playoffs.

TML, also in norris division at the time, were 12 games below .500 with a goal differential of -37.

only the dead wings missed the playoffs.

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The Canucks also seem to have the same level of die-hard, obsessive fans as the Cubs. I also assume that the nervous "What's going to go wrong this time?" energy permeates that arena at big moments.

The difference is that the Cubs would have actually blown the 3-0 lead in 2011. And the Canucks could never self-identify as either loveable or losers.
seems right to me

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The series is not over.
that emoticon is really funny.

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05-10-2013, 12:58 AM
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blues should not have been in those series, but a weak team in the finals was a necessary result of having all the expansion teams in 1 division.


would not be possible without the crappy norris division in '80s and having 16 of 21 teams make the playoffs.

blues were well below .500 several times, but made the playoffs.

in '83, STL was 15 games below .500 with a goal differential of -31, but made the playoffs.

TML, also in norris division at the time, were 12 games below .500 with a goal differential of -37.

only the dead wings missed the playoffs.


seems right to me


that emoticon is really funny.
They didn't plan out the divisions for parity in those days.

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05-10-2013, 01:08 AM
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No but the Oilers are the Toronto Blue Jays of hockey
Haha this. Jays re-hired the guy they fired 4 years prior, and replaced him with another ex-manager who won them b2b World Series....20 years ago.

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The closest comparison imo would be Vancouver. The Millionaires won it in 1915. No Vancouver based team has won it since. Not the same franchises though, so the comparison isn't 100% the same.

I do love mentioning the Millionaires though. Canuck fans could give less of a **** about the Millionaire's cup win, but everyone else doesn't even want Vancouver and Stanley cup in the same sentence.

I guess making fun of Vancouver takes precedence over acknowledging the history of the game.

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blues should not have been in those series, but a weak team in the finals was a necessary result of having all the expansion teams in 1 division.


would not be possible without the crappy norris division in '80s and having 16 of 21 teams make the playoffs.

blues were well below .500 several times, but made the playoffs.

in '83, STL was 15 games below .500 with a goal differential of -31, but made the playoffs.

TML, also in norris division at the time, were 12 games below .500 with a goal differential of -37.

only the dead wings missed the playoffs.


seems right to me


that emoticon is really funny.
You can come up with whatever excuses you want.Theres tons of things that are factors in just about every cup run. If this happened, if that happened.... etc. This happened becuase of that, that happened because of this yadda yadda yadda.

Fact remains that the Blues have done just about everything except win a cup. It sucks because thats the ONE thing the Blues fans want the most. I would trade in our entire history for JUST ONE cup. And yes, once we get one, I will want another but right now. I just want one.

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05-10-2013, 01:11 AM
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No they won't.
Nobody asked you.

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05-10-2013, 01:14 AM
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Oh, trust me. It is.

Knowing the Blues pattern of luck in the playoffs, it is. I could go on, but I'll stop it here.
With fans like these, who needs enemies?

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05-10-2013, 01:16 AM
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One of these days the Cubs will win it all and then they'll stop being used for examples like this.

One can dream...

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05-10-2013, 01:26 AM
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With fans like these, who needs enemies?


And if I end up wrong, you can come back to this post and rub it in my face.

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05-10-2013, 02:00 AM
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One of these days the Cubs will win it all and then they'll stop being used for examples like this.

One can dream...

id be disappointed if this is only how you guys react if you ever win it. i expect total anarchy

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And if I end up wrong, you can come back to this post and rub it in my face.
In fandom, it's a coward's way to outwardly predict your team's demise while inwardly hoping otherwise. If they lose, you were right. If they win, they win.

Nut up and support your team.

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05-10-2013, 03:07 AM
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No.

The Cubs have won a World Series albeit their last was 105 years ago in 1908.

The Blues have never won Anything. So the Blues are more like MLB franchises that have never won anything who were born in and around the Blues 1967 Expansion NHL Entry: Washington Senators/Texas Rangers, Houston, San Diego & the Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals franchises.

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05-10-2013, 05:46 AM
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Wait another 50 years then create another thread like this
but by then the cubs streak will be up to 154 years

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Yeah, the Blues aren't the Cubs of hockey, not even close.

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05-10-2013, 08:04 AM
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In fandom, it's a coward's way to outwardly predict your team's demise while inwardly hoping otherwise. If they lose, you were right. If they win, they win.

Nut up and support your team.
In fandom, it's the blind idiot who constantly praises and never questions his coach or his team when they're not playing well.

Speaking of nuts, get off the Blues' and don't worry about me having the gall to question my team (who have lost three in a row in a series where they were up 2-0).

Fanboy.


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Fun fact: Harry Caray was the St. Louis Cardinals broadcaster from the 1945 season through the 1969 season. He broadcast three Cardinal World Series winners in that time frame.

Many don't realize he spent 25 years with the Cardinals and only 17 with the Cubs.

He was also born in St. Louis.

The Chicago Cub legend is actually more of a St. Louis Cardinal legend.
He started singing The Stretch with the White Sox. Harry Carey is a nobody if not for Bill Veeck.

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blues are the houston astros of hockey
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They're more like the Houston Astros of hockey.
The Astros have won a pennant in the last 10 years. When was the last time St. Louis got to the Cup Final?

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Nobody asked you.
Bitter much?

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