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Roster Talk '13 — Norway

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05-10-2013, 06:03 AM
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Dirty play? The dane put himself in a vulnerable position (He didnt want to take the hit and therefore tried to avoid it. Holtet couldnt stop in time). And Tollefsen was unlucky and slashed a players nuts. Buhu...

What kind of "plays" are dangerous? Headshots, boarding, spearing and fighting. Tollefsens first suspenion was okey, but a Danish player shoudlve also been suspended for boarding/dangerous crosschecking on Tollefsen. Our players are not dirty. We dosent drop our gloves, no spearing so far and no headshots.
Norway as such doesn't play dirty (and what is meant by dirty can be different from person to person) but very physical (at least against Denmark because they know that it works). Tollefsen makes dirty plays once in awhile. I think against Denmark it's always the plan to get them mentally off balance and that what he does for team Norway. In 2012 Jannik Hansen flipped.....in 2013 the Danes also fell into the trap and lost their technical game most of the match.
Tollefsen takes calculated risks...sometimes he gets away with his tricks, this WC he doesn't have that luck.
The reason for the suspensions is that he takes these calculated risks in upsetting the opponents - it's not random, clumsy or stupid but game deliberate. [the IIHF seem to have figure it out and goes after him - compared to other matches in other WC maybe to hard?!, but they might want to set an example for the future].
Tollefsen is very important for Norway in that regard. Leader, enforcer "frustrator" for the other team.
You can like him or you don't, but his value for Norway is not in question and having him suspended is critical for Norway's defense.

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05-10-2013, 06:33 AM
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Norway as such doesn't play dirty (and what is meant by dirty can be different from person to person) but very physical (at least against Denmark because they know that it works). Tollefsen makes dirty plays once in awhile. I think against Denmark it's always the plan to get them mentally off balance and that what he does for team Norway. In 2012 Jannik Hansen flipped.....in 2013 the Danes also fell into the trap and lost their technical game most of the match.
Tollefsen takes calculated risks...sometimes he gets away with his tricks, this WC he doesn't have that luck.
The reason for the suspensions is that he takes these calculated risks in upsetting the opponents - it's not random, clumsy or stupid but game deliberate. [the IIHF seem to have figure it out and goes after him - compared to other matches in other WC maybe to hard?!, but they might want to set an example for the future].
Tollefsen is very important for Norway in that regard. Leader, enforcer "frustrator" for the other team.
You can like him or you don't, but his value for Norway is not in question and having him suspended is critical for Norway's defense.
1. Very physical, correct!
2. Hansen dropped his gloves and got suspended. Good call by the refs
3. Everyone does that. The whole game is risky
3. Not maybe to hard. The iihf/refs are going after Norway, noone else.
4. Not enforcer , otherwise correct

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1. Very physical, correct!
2. Hansen dropped his gloves and got suspended. Good call by the refs
3. Everyone does that. The whole game is risky
3. Not maybe to hard. The iihf/refs are going after Norway, noone else.
4. Not enforcer , otherwise correct
I meant "enforcer" more broadly (not in the narrow goon-hitman-retaliation-NHL-meaning) in that he is the guys that breaks the oppositions concentration (especially Jannik Hansen's) and keep up the fighting spirit of the Norwegian team. So Tollefsen is more a hockey pest/agitator than a strict enforcer, right?
But I don't think IIHF is going after Norway.....maybe after Tollefsen but even though he is important he isn't Norway per se.

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Final stats

Points: 9
Goals scored: 12
Goals allowed: 26
Wins: 3
OT/SO wins: 0
Losses: 4
Powerplay: 7.1%
Penalty kill: 92.6%

Top scorer: Anders Bastiansen | 5
Top goal scorer: Anders Bastiansen | 4
Assists leader: Mathis Olimb | 4
Ice time leader: Jonas HolÝs | 27:54
Plus/minus leader: Anders Bastiansen | +1


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Final stats

Points: 9
Goals scored: 12
Goals allowed: 26
Wins: 1
OT/SO wins: 0
Losses: 4
Powerplay: 7.1%
Penalty kill: 92.6%

Top scorer: Anders Bastiansen | 5
Top goal scorer: Anders Bastiansen | 4
Assists leader: Mathis Olimb | 4
Ice time leader: Jonas HolÝs | 27:54
Plus/minus leader: Anders Bastiansen | +1
Should be 3 wins..

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