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09-25-2006, 04:01 PM
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Ozolinsh

I was reading over at blueshirt bulletin that the guy is at camp... this kind of struck me, i mean do you guys really expect to see bozo on the team this year? I think we, at this point, have 7/8 Dmen that can compete for the job better than he can..

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I was reading over at blueshirt bulletin that the guy is at camp... this kind of struck me, i mean do you guys really expect to see bozo on the team this year? I think we, at this point, have 7/8 Dmen that can compete for the job better than he can..
Why did it strike you? He still has a contract.

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i just thought we were done and out with him. I realize he has a contract, i just thought itd be another mogilny situation

even he does make the team... ranger fans won't want him there. They'll practically boo him out of New York

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i just thought we were done and out with him. I realize he has a contract, i just thought itd be another mogilny situation

even he does make the team... ranger fans won't want him there. They'll practically boo him out of New York
They might be done with him. But he's still going to go through the motions in order to get paid. He's fufilling his contract.

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09-25-2006, 04:27 PM
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Why is everyone being so harsh on Ozo? He is still the best QB we have on this team and his defensive side with a little work is better that Strudwick per se. I say give a guy a second shot, he might suprise us all.

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09-25-2006, 04:32 PM
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Strudwick was MUCH BETTER defensively. However Ozo still is the best offensive defenseman on the roster. His skills on the PP are still elite.

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09-25-2006, 04:41 PM
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In addition, last season's down fall was blamed way too much on Ozo and the responsibility should have been allocated appropriately to everyone, including the coach for not employing players under the correct situations where they could flourish. (Hossa on the PK) Thus, I will argue that we as fans, should give Ozo a second shot at a limited role where he could and should succeed.

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Well he's still good on the ice, at least when sober.

Just make sure someone drives him to and from the arena

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I got a feeling that OZO just are sticking around to squess out the last dime he can get before retireing. I don't think he would be welcomed back, despite how politically correct Kaspar have been in the media.

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09-25-2006, 05:17 PM
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If its late Febrary I would welcome Ozolinsh back in a second to jump start our PP if Thomas Pock has not assumed the role.

Plus you never know with the end of the season, injuries happen.

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09-25-2006, 06:13 PM
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In addition, last season's down fall was blamed way too much on Ozo and the responsibility should have been allocated appropriately to everyone, including the coach for not employing players under the correct situations where they could flourish. (Hossa on the PK) Thus, I will argue that we as fans, should give Ozo a second shot at a limited role where he could and should succeed.
Agreed. But he will still get booed mercilessly. Tom Poti is gone. Someone needs to fill that role. Enter "Bozo".

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09-25-2006, 11:18 PM
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I think Ozo has a part to play yet in a great Ranger season.

He will need to tough it out at MSG. But NYR's love a comeback. Especially if the guy delivers. All will be forgiven if we're winning

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09-26-2006, 12:25 AM
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I'm willing to give Ozo another chance but I wouldn't be surprised if his defense doesn't improve at all. I could still see him playing like he did at the end of last season and that's just not good. The way he played during the playoffs though...man, just thinking about that is horrifying. I went to Game 2 and I can tell you now, he looked like an injury call-up playing his first NHL game. He'd pinch at the wrong times, got outplayed by the Devils forwards along the boards, and even managed to score a goal for the Devils

Let's just say that he was bad at the end of the season for us but he brought a new level of bad to the ice during the playoffs.

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I'm willing to give Ozo another chance but I wouldn't be surprised if his defense doesn't improve at all. I could still see him playing like he did at the end of last season and that's just not good. The way he played during the playoffs though...man, just thinking about that is horrifying. I went to Game 2 and I can tell you now, he looked like an injury call-up playing his first NHL game. He'd pinch at the wrong times, got outplayed by the Devils forwards along the boards, and even managed to score a goal for the Devils

Let's just say that he was bad at the end of the season for us but he brought a new level of bad to the ice during the playoffs.
id rather see a rookie make those mistakes, cause they are young. Ozo is just a bum collecting a check.

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If hes used like Tverdovsky was with Carolina, I see no issue. And I hate him.

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If hes used like Tverdovsky was with Carolina, I see no issue. And I hate him.
Tverdovsky would be an upgrade on Ozo.


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Tverdovsky would be an upgrade on Ozo.
That's the thing, Ozo COULD be better than Tverdovsky if we use him better. No reason he should be seeing any PK time with his defensive abilities. Until his defense shows some improvement, he should be a 3rd pairing guy who plays a lot on the PP. Sure, he's an experienced vet, but when used too much he will end up hurting us.

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09-26-2006, 10:55 AM
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Ozolinsh is making a quick recovery from his ACL surgery.He will be back by early November at the latest.Ozolinsh will count against the Rangers cap while is on LTI but when he is ready to play and come off the LTI,the Rangers will place him on waivers,he becomes a Packie and comes off the Rangers cap

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09-26-2006, 11:06 AM
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Ozolinsh is making a quick recovery from his ACL surgery.He will be back by early November at the latest.Ozolinsh will count against the Rangers cap while is on LTI but when he is ready to play and come off the LTI,the Rangers will place him on waivers,he becomes a Packie and comes off the Rangers cap

I do wonder that, if the PP continues to look turgid, if Ozolinsh going to Hartford will be a given. Clearly it bothered management enough last year for them to make the deal for Ozolinsh. If someone doesn't step up in that role, it is not inconceivable for the Rangers to give Ozolinsh another chance.

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ranger fans won't want him there. They'll practically boo him out of New York
They are easy to please. Remember, they wanted to fire Sather badly at some point. Ozolinch has much less impressive resume than Slats, but he is an elite d-man, something we do not have at this time. One or two solid games and the crowd will love him.

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09-26-2006, 11:16 AM
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Remember, they wanted to fire Sather badly at some point.
Which he was very clearly deserving.
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but he is an elite d-man
Hardly. He was never "elite", but he had some elite performances. However, he is pretty far removed from such accolades.
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One or two solid games and the crowd will love him.
Considering just how dreadfull he was, it is going to take a lot more than that.
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I do wonder that, if the PP continues to look turgid, if Ozolinsh going to Hartford will be a given. Clearly it bothered management enough last year for them to make the deal for Ozolinsh. If someone doesn't step up in that role, it is not inconceivable for the Rangers to give Ozolinsh another chance.
Not a very cheery thought if you ask me. I think that most of us are all in agreement of just how truly mediocre last year's group of defensemen was. By bringing back Ozolinsh (presumably at the expesense of a Rachunek), the Rangers are right back to virtually the same mediocre bunch, save for replacing Poti w/ Ward. Not a very cheery thought, given how many times they were bailed out by a goalie standing on his head.

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Not a very cheery thought if you ask me. I think that most of us are all in agreement of just how truly mediocre last year's group of defensemen was. By bringing back Ozolinsh (presumably at the expesense of a Rachunek), the Rangers are right back to virtually the same mediocre bunch, save for replacing Poti w/ Ward. Not a very cheery thought, given how many times they were bailed out by a goalie standing on his head.
I don't disagree. While I like the improvements at the forward position, and the team will benefits from the removal of Poti, and not having essentially a 7th D-man at best (Strudwick) playing regular minutes, I'm not enthralled by the look of the D right now. People can say how the PP runs through Jagr, but, IMO, there is a need for legit PP QB, and I don't think Cullen is it.

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TOzolinch...is an elite d-man, something we do not have at this time.
If Ozo is an elite defenseman, Rozsival is a lock hall-of-famer. By no means is Ozo an elite defenseman. In fact there are very few elite defensemen in the league. Off the top of my head, these are the guys I consider elite:

Pronger
Chara
Redden
Niedermayer
Lidstrom

A notch below:
Phaneuf (but getting there fast)
Blake
Pitkanen

That's it. And there is no way that Ozo is mentioned with any of those guys.

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I am sorry but Sandis Ozolinsh IS NOT and Elite defenseman. However he still possesses ELITE OFFENSIVE ABILITY.

Meaning let him play 3rd pairing with Aaron Ward and get about 8 minutes a night on even strength and then put him on the ice for the PP.

If given PP time he can STILL score 40-50 points.

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If Ozo is an elite defenseman, Rozsival is a lock hall-of-famer. By no means is Ozo an elite defenseman. In fact there are very few elite defensemen in the league. Off the top of my head, these are the guys I consider elite:

Pronger
Chara
Redden
Niedermayer
Lidstrom

A notch below:
Phaneuf (but getting there fast)
Blake
Pitkanen

That's it. And there is no way that Ozo is mentioned with any of those guys.
Babcock will take him to Detroit any moment. After that he would become an elite. Is that what needs to be done to get a proof? Common, the guy anchored the entire Ducks defence at the time when Ranges were subpar (not to say garbage) team. Yes, they had a good goalie back then, but so do Rangers now.

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