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Is Patrick Sharp's game over?

View Poll Results: Are we ever going to see 60PT season from P. Sharp again?
Yes 27 65.85%
No 14 34.15%
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05-10-2013, 08:26 AM
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Wonder if the 14 people who voted he wouldn't return to form wish they could change their vote?

Not just PPG in the playoffs this year, GPG.
I wouldn't change my vote of "no".

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05-10-2013, 08:31 AM
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But what???? Sharp is streaky for sure, but he also is known for raising his game in key situations and tends to score goals when the team needs it the most. So far, these PO’s are no exception but he has not played a lot of hockey lately. Five goals is quite remarkable considering. I expect his timing to get better with each game, and it could turn out to be a very special PO run for him. Go Sharpy!
but... it doesn't mean he'll hit 60 again.

I NEVER discount any goal scored by a player, but off memory, I see a deflection off his knee, a tap in set up by Kane, an average wrister that handcuffed a young inexperienced goalie and a shovel into an open net.

Let me know when we see Sharp create space, cut across the middle/high slot and lets one rip under the bar. That's when we will know Sharp is back.

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05-10-2013, 08:41 AM
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but... it doesn't mean he'll hit 60 again.

I NEVER discount any goal scored by a player, but off memory, I see a deflection off his knee, a tap in set up by Kane, an average wrister that handcuffed a young inexperienced goalie and a shovel into an open net.

Let me know when we see Sharp create space, cut across the middle/high slot and lets one rip under the bar. That's when we will know Sharp is back.

.... or make a big hit, take a hit to make a play, play responsibibly without the puck, play gritty hockey. He has done the above in every game of the PO's. It's called "the game within the game".

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I did not vote but a 5 game sample from an historically streaky player does not portend anything. Nice to have the 5 goals for sure, but...
Just like the sample size this thread was based on was underwhelming.

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but... it doesn't mean he'll hit 60 again.

I NEVER discount any goal scored by a player, but off memory, I see a deflection off his knee, a tap in set up by Kane, an average wrister that handcuffed a young inexperienced goalie and a shovel into an open net.

Let me know when we see Sharp create space, cut across the middle/high slot and lets one rip under the bar. That's when we will know Sharp is back.
this is more true

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.... or make a big hit, take a hit to make a play, play responsibibly without the puck, play gritty hockey. He has done the above in every game of the PO's. It's called "the game within the game".
and this is not as true

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Right now the only two guys that should be in the talk for the Conn Smythe should be Crawford & Sharp with an honorable mention of Hossa.

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.... or make a big hit, take a hit to make a play, play responsibibly without the puck, play gritty hockey. He has done the above in every game of the PO's. It's called "the game within the game".
That is not what makes P. Sharp special and you know it. Is it good that he does it? Of course, so do about 500 other NHLers.

If he's not sniping, he's a run of the mill Top 9.

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/\ The point I was trying to make is that Sharp is not the one-dimensional player that some seem to think he is. He does a lot of little things that coaches notice and appreciate, but fans, not necessarily. Some folks will point to the stats and make false conclusions from them.

You’re right, he’s a sniper first, and no doubt we will need him at his sniping best as the intensity of the PO’s heats up, but he may need a few more games to get that timing back to where he wants it.

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but... it doesn't mean he'll hit 60 again.

I NEVER discount any goal scored by a player, but off memory, I see a deflection off his knee, a tap in set up by Kane, an average wrister that handcuffed a young inexperienced goalie and a shovel into an open net.

Let me know when we see Sharp create space, cut across the middle/high slot and lets one rip under the bar. That's when we will know Sharp is back.
You say you never discount a goal and then discount his goals...

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You say you never discount a goal and then discount his goals...
I didn't discount the goals, I discounted the notion that Sharp is all the way back.

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Back to what exactly? Not directing this solely at you, but Sharp is a streaky offensive player. He can't stickhandle, has trouble settling the puck and is an average passer. He's the most wasteful thirty goal scorer I've ever seen.

He's quiet offensively 90% of the time and two shifts later he's got a goal and an assist. He's a compiler. Not a bad thing, especially combined with his two way play.

His shot is good, but its not Semin/Heatley/Vanek good. He just scores goals.

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Back to what exactly? Not directing this solely at you, but Sharp is a streaky offensive player. He can't stickhandle, has trouble settling the puck and is an average passer. He's the most wasteful thirty goal scorer I've ever seen.

He's quiet offensively 90% of the time and two shifts later he's got a goal and an assist. He's a compiler. Not a bad thing, especially combined with his two way play.

His shot is good, but its not Semin/Heatley/Vanek good. He just scores goals.
which is overrated.

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which is overrated.
Not really.

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People still bashing Sharp? Lol

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People still bashing Sharp? Lol
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Sharps Two way play is not overrated. He is above average as Winger but still away from the best. That's what he is seen and what he shows on the ice

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Make me a list of the good, two way playing, 30+ goal scoring (however he scores them), able to play wing and C, leaders on their team, players in the NHL and then tell me Sharp is overrated.

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Make me a list of the good, two way playing, 30+ goal scoring (however he scores them), able to play wing and C, leaders on their team, players in the NHL and then tell me Sharp is overrated.

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Back to what exactly? Not directing this solely at you, but Sharp is a streaky offensive player. He can't stickhandle, has trouble settling the puck and is an average passer. He's the most wasteful thirty goal scorer I've ever seen.

He's quiet offensively 90% of the time and two shifts later he's got a goal and an assist. He's a compiler. Not a bad thing, especially combined with his two way play.

His shot is good, but its not Semin/Heatley/Vanek good. He just scores goals.
I agree with all of this. Sharp has benefited from Kane being Kane. He's good but I still think he's overpaid for what he contributes to the team. Sharp is best at getting himself to the right spot and setting up for the shot. He rarely creates and that bothers me a bit.


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Make me a list of the good, two way playing, 30+ goal scoring (however he scores them), able to play wing and C, leaders on their team, players in the NHL and then tell me Sharp is overrated.
Let me know when this happens again for any period of time. Otherwise I don't consider him a C. 2010 was three years ago.

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05-10-2013, 10:31 PM
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Let me know when this happens again for any period of time. Otherwise I don't consider him a C. 2010 was three years ago.
He takes draws and has said he would be willing to play C if asked, the only reason he hasn't has been coaching not his choice.

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He takes draws and has said he would be willing to play C if asked, the only reason he hasn't has been coaching not his choice.
There absolutely has to be more to it. With the merry go round of guys they have had at 2C, I don't buy it.

I asked him at last year's convention if he would consider playing center again and he seemed annoyed, he was probably sick of the suggestion. I don't know what the story is but he's the obvious choice and they're not going there. I can't figure it out.

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Back to what exactly? Not directing this solely at you, but Sharp is a streaky offensive player. He can't stickhandle, has trouble settling the puck and is an average passer. He's the most wasteful thirty goal scorer I've ever seen.

He's quiet offensively 90% of the time and two shifts later he's got a goal and an assist. He's a compiler. Not a bad thing, especially combined with his two way play.

His shot is good, but its not Semin/Heatley/Vanek good. He just scores goals.
Yeah, Semin, Heatley, and Vanek haven't been a major contributor to a team that's gone on to win a Stanley Cup, either.

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Bottom line is he just scored 5 goals in 5 playoff games...which means he is getting where he needs to be to put himself in position to score goals...and now he is cashing in on his chances...maybe he is no longer snakebitten like he was in the regular season.

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