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05-10-2013, 10:46 AM
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Couturier and Saad are already playing big roles in the NHL and Scheifele had a better PPG ratio than Strome.
Upside matters. Strome has by far the highest upside of the three players. I don't see how it's even close. Strome's upside is comparable to RNH and Huberdeau.

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05-10-2013, 11:15 AM
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I'm only going to rate the ones who have played in the NHL.

Landeskog
RNH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Brodin
Couturier
Zibby
Hamilton
Saad
Baertschi
Shaw

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05-10-2013, 11:28 AM
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Upside matters. Strome has by far the highest upside of the three players. I don't see how it's even close. Strome's upside is comparable to RNH and Huberdeau.
Sean Couturier had 28 points in 31 games in the AHL this year...one that had NHL players playing in it. To say it is "by far" when playing 2 leagues lower than Couturier and others is a dis-service to those already playing at the highest level of hockey.

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05-10-2013, 11:28 AM
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Couturier and Saad are already playing big roles in the NHL and Scheifele had a better PPG ratio than Strome.
Scheifele was playing on a much better team especially the 2nd half of the year. Strome was leading the entire chl in points then the world championships came. When he got back it was just him and richie hamilton and theroet were gone.

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05-10-2013, 11:40 AM
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Once his shoulder is fixed, RNH is gonna be proving some people wrong.

If you're gonna knock RNH for injury problems, what about Landeskog and concussion issues?

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05-10-2013, 11:59 AM
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Once his shoulder is fixed, RNH is gonna be proving some people wrong.

If you're gonna knock RNH for injury problems, what about Landeskog and concussion issues?
As a fan of neither team...I agree with this. Funny how fans pick and chose what matters. A player like Strome or Scheifele have been brought along slowly. Imagine what Couturier, RNH or Landeskog would do in the CHL this past year. But they were all too good for the league 2 years ago. It is only now that Strome and Scheifele are getting to that point. For sure though, the draft year is looking quite good for years to come.

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05-10-2013, 12:15 PM
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I think huberdeau goes over RNH. Rattie and jaskin sneak into top-20.

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05-10-2013, 12:17 PM
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Once his shoulder is fixed, RNH is gonna be proving some people wrong.

If you're gonna knock RNH for injury problems, what about Landeskog and concussion issues?
He's had one concussion. It something to monitor, but RNH has missed chunks of his first two seasons with the same shoulder. I would find that more concerning than Landeskogs head.

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05-10-2013, 12:34 PM
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Sean Couturier had 28 points in 31 games in the AHL this year...one that had NHL players playing in it. To say it is "by far" when playing 2 leagues lower than Couturier and others is a dis-service to those already playing at the highest level of hockey.
Saying that Strome has higher upside is a disservice to Couturier?

Well, that's too bad for Couturier. Strome was a little boy compared to Couturier when he was drafted, and it will take him a little time to catch up. But catch up he will.

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05-10-2013, 01:30 PM
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Wow. Anyone who takes Scheifele, Couturier, or Saad over Strome at this point would be making a huge mistake. Upside matters. The only players who would merit a rise into the top-5 are Hamilton and Brodin, and Hamilton could have easily been taken top-5 on draft day considering the time the Isles spent with both Strome and Hamilton.

My take

1. RNH
2. Landeskog
3. Huberdeau
4. Larrsson
5. Hamilton
6. Brodin
7. Strome
8. Zibanejed
9. Couturier
10. Schiefele
Scheifele > Strome

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05-10-2013, 01:46 PM
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He's had one concussion. It something to monitor, but RNH has missed chunks of his first two seasons with the same shoulder. I would find that more concerning than Landeskogs head.
shoulder surgeries arent as serious in the new NHL.. If anything it'll prolong the careers of these kids. Surely didnt hurt the production of Hall, Gaborik, Kessel, Lecavalier, Kesler and many before him..

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05-10-2013, 01:49 PM
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I'd take Zibanejad right where he was taken. Above Couturier, if I was in the Islanders position above Strome. Beautiful hockey player. I wasn't convinced, but now I know never to argue with Dorion, T.Murray and co.

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05-10-2013, 01:57 PM
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Scheifele > Strome
Sorry. Strome does what he does without relying on overpowering anyone. He won't have to change his game nearly as much as other players coming out of junior.

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1. RNH
2. Landeskog
3. Huberdeau
4. Larsson
5. Brodin
6. Saad
7. Zibanejad
8. Hamilton
9. Couturier
10. Baertschi
11. Strome
12. Scheifele
13. Klefbom
14. Gibson
15. Oullet
16. Oleksiak
17. Armia
18. Jaskin
19. Trocheck
20. Miller
21. Shaw
22. R. Murphy
23. Rattie
24. Morrow
25. Ritchie
26. Noesen
27. Sproul
28. Jensen
29. Harrington
30. Siemens


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05-10-2013, 02:08 PM
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Do you think any of Sproul, Oulette, or Jurco would now be 1st rounders? All of them have done incredibly well since their draft. Not sure how they stack up to the lower end of the 1st rounders that were drafted.
Sproul and Ouellet, yes imo but no Jurco.

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05-10-2013, 02:23 PM
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Sorry. Strome does what he does without relying on overpowering anyone. He won't have to change his game nearly as much as other players coming out of junior.
Scheifele does not play a power forward game at all. His game should translate well, as long as his balance issues do not hold him back. Him and Strome are very close as prospects.

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05-10-2013, 02:32 PM
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I'm only going to rate the ones who have played in the NHL.

Landeskog
RNH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Brodin
Couturier
Zibby
Hamilton
Saad
Baertschi
Shaw
So Huberdeau drops? Ok.

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05-10-2013, 02:45 PM
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Not enough love for Scott Harrington here. Ty Rattie also would be a first rounder, no question, as would Brett Ritchie. Morrow would probably actually fall out of the 1st.

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05-10-2013, 02:56 PM
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I think huberdeau goes over RNH. Rattie and jaskin sneak into top-20.
You do realize that RNH's rookie season destroys Huberdeau's right?

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05-10-2013, 05:10 PM
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1. RNH
2. Landeskog
3. Huberdeau
4. Larsson
5. Brodin
6. Saad
7. Hamilton
8. Zibanejad
9. Couturier
10. Baertschi
11. Strome
12. Scheifele
13. Klefbom
14. Gibson
15. Oullet
16. Oleksiak
17. Armia
18. Jaskin
19. Trocheck
20. Miller
21. Shaw
22. R. Murphy
23. Rattie
24. Morrow
25. Ritchie
26. Noesen
27. Sproul
28. Jensen
29. Harrington
30. Siemens
Glad to see Trocheck in there!! Tallon made a great pick nabbing that kid in the third round after seeing his performance in the OHL this season. I'm excited to see what he can do in the pros.


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05-10-2013, 05:11 PM
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No Lowry in the top 30? he just won WHL mvp.

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I'm only going to rate the ones who have played in the NHL.

Landeskog
RNH
Larsson
Huberdeau
Brodin
Couturier
Zibby
Hamilton
Saad
Baertschi
Shaw
So Huberdeau (likely rookie of the year) drops

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I don't see how larsson can be in anyone's top 8. He has really disappointed at the NHL level so far and based on his skill and his athleticism he is not going to be anywhere near where he was projected as.

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I think RNH is the better player, but I have seen what bad shoulders can do to a player, and it doesn't bode well for his future. That's why I have Huberdeau above RNH.
The list of players in the NHL that have had the same surgery reads like a who's who. The injury itself was not suppose to be that bad and early reports are that the surgery went very well.

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i still take strome at 5
Don't worry he will convince all the naysayers. How a list could be made when more than half if these players have played zero NHL games is beyond me.

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