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09-25-2006, 09:58 PM
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My solution for the Samsonov/Kovalev problem

Kovalev and Samsonov just don't fit together. First, because they are two players that love to control the puck, but also cause Kovalev doesn't really use is speed to get to the net.

Carbo know by now that these two guys have to be seperate. I think that he should consider getting Samsonov with Koivu and Ryder, and Higgins with Ribeiro and Kovalev. Here's why.

Koivu is best at making passes, Ryder is a pure scorer and Samsonov love to control the puck. Now that's 3 guys that can complete each other. And, with them, Samsonov will have more chance of exploiting is speed.

Higgins is a very good all-around player, the one that will always be on the defensive zone before Kovy and Ribs. Also, he won't battle with them for the control of the puck. He will accept pass, go in front of net, catch rebound, etc.

I don't know if those lines would actually work but it could be interesting to try it in the last pre-season game.

What do you think ?

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09-25-2006, 10:03 PM
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It is for sure something that Carbo might try if Sammy and Kovy can not produce together!

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I don't see Carbs splitting up the line that's worked the best for us since the middle of last season.

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Latendresse.

*** solution.

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.

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Give them more games u bunch of "too eager for hockey" fans!!

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
Montreal already has a hard enugh time signing UFA's. Trading a UFA right after we sign him, even before he actually plays a single game ( in the season) would really help now wouldn't it...

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Give them more games u bunch of "too eager for hockey" fans!!
The games are the boring part of hockey.

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
I think we should trade everyone away for those plastic hockey figures that did so well for me when I played table hockey as a kid.

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Kovalev and Samsonov just don't fit together. First, because they are two players that love to control the puck, but also cause Kovalev doesn't really use is speed to get to the net.

Carbo know by now that these two guys have to be seperate. I think that he should consider getting Samsonov with Koivu and Ryder, and Higgins with Ribeiro and Kovalev. Here's why.

Koivu is best at making passes, Ryder is a pure scorer and Samsonov love to control the puck. Now that's 3 guys that can complete each other. And, with them, Samsonov will have more chance of exploiting is speed.

Higgins is a very good all-around player, the one that will always be on the defensive zone before Kovy and Ribs. Also, he won't battle with them for the control of the puck. He will accept pass, go in front of net, catch rebound, etc.

I don't know if those lines would actually work but it could be interesting to try it in the last pre-season game.

What do you think ?
I think those would be great lines!

And for buddy who said "Trade Samsonov" Give your head a shake, can I have what you're smoking?

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Kovalev and Samsonov just don't fit together. First, because they are two players that love to control the puck, but also cause Kovalev doesn't really use is speed to get to the net.

Carbo know by now that these two guys have to be seperate. I think that he should consider getting Samsonov with Koivu and Ryder, and Higgins with Ribeiro and Kovalev. Here's why.

Koivu is best at making passes, Ryder is a pure scorer and Samsonov love to control the puck. Now that's 3 guys that can complete each other. And, with them, Samsonov will have more chance of exploiting is speed.

Higgins is a very good all-around player, the one that will always be on the defensive zone before Kovy and Ribs. Also, he won't battle with them for the control of the puck. He will accept pass, go in front of net, catch rebound, etc.

I don't know if those lines would actually work but it could be interesting to try it in the last pre-season game.

What do you think ?
I agree.

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
I disagree.

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Kovalev and Samsonov just don't fit together. First, because they are two players that love to control the puck, but also cause Kovalev doesn't really use is speed to get to the net.

Carbo know by now that these two guys have to be seperate. I think that he should consider getting Samsonov with Koivu and Ryder, and Higgins with Ribeiro and Kovalev. Here's why.

Koivu is best at making passes, Ryder is a pure scorer and Samsonov love to control the puck. Now that's 3 guys that can complete each other. And, with them, Samsonov will have more chance of exploiting is speed.

Higgins is a very good all-around player, the one that will always be on the defensive zone before Kovy and Ribs. Also, he won't battle with them for the control of the puck. He will accept pass, go in front of net, catch rebound, etc.

why take out samsonov for the lack of speed of ribeiro, just put in plekanec...
case over!

I don't know if those lines would actually work but it could be interesting to try it in the last pre-season game.

What do you think ?

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
Don's act so fast guys this would relly encourage free agents to sign in montreal!!

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Man oh man. 4 preseason games in and it's time break up the Habs and trade all the skilled players. No wait, let break up the best line we had for the last year or so. No wait, lets dump Samsonov, the only big free agent signing of the year and replace him with a guy with 0 games of NHL experience.

darn, I love being a Habs fan!

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
or how about giving the guy a chance? hes hardly played any games for us this season and people are cryin like babies to get rid of this guy, let him play a few games with us before you start givin him the gears.

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this is getting ridiculous.

how can we say if they cant play toghether. geez its only pre season and they didnt even start to play for real.

its practices for most of the players except those who have something to prove or koivu that needs to test his eye. well koivu is always playing hard so my point doesnt count but still.

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
Not really. Signing someone and trading him away before he gets to play one real game for a team would not make our management look very good. Good luck trying to attract UFAs to town next year.

Having more than dozen NHL capable forwards, some depth, is a GOOD thing. Especially when you have a team like Montreal, usually struggling in offence and it comes in offensive players like Samsonov.

In an ideal world each Plekanec Perezhogin and Kostitsyn will all become like Higgins and score 20+ goals and Latendresse making the team would get 10+, but most realistic fans know MOST of this will not happen. We need to have some proven veteran talent aswell.

Also there will be injuries every year, this next one will not be an exception.

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Man oh man. 4 preseason games in and it's time break up the Habs and trade all the skilled players. No wait, let break up the best line we had for the last year or so. No wait, lets dump Samsonov, the only big free agent signing of the year and replace him with a guy with 0 games of NHL experience.

darn, I love being a Habs fan!
Only in Montréal...

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One solution might be to trade Samsonov.
He hasn't even played a single regular season here and you already want to trade the guy ! ?

The solution is obvious:

Bring back Dagenais !

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I thought there was going to be a miracle solution in this thread. I guess I was wrong. But yours sounds better... sorta.

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I think we should trade everyone away for those plastic hockey figures that did so well for me when I played table hockey as a kid.
No, I think you are wrong. The really old metal players are the best - they might lose a bit of paint and get bent a bit, but boy are they sturdy.

Good idea though.

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Those 2 aren't the ones clicking, it's the guy down the middle, like i said in a previous comment. They need someone who's faster, someone who shoots more, who'l cover them when they go too deep in the offensive zone, put Pleckanek on that line and they'l start producing

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There's a reason Higgins scored 16 goals after the olympic break, it's name is Saku.I don't see them being split.
Ribs and Ryder haven't played on a line since before Julien was fired.They're both too one dimensional and need to be with superior players in order to be effective.
As for Sammy and Kovalev, I'm confident they'll start to click when the season starts.

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Trade Samsonov for Shanahan!

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