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05-12-2013, 09:30 AM
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Does anyone happen to have a non-Czech stream to the Canada game today?

ATDHE and FirstRow only have Czech links.

My Czech seems to be rusty, or rather non existent.

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I think they could use Subban's point shot.

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I think they could use Subban's point shot.
Who wouldn't? :p

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They're saving a spot for Phaneuf.

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Who wouldn't? :p
Florida and New York...they already have Subbans in their roster, remember?

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Kind of annoyed Plekanec is risking aggrivating an injury playing, but I guess that's the same story every year for him. Not like there's anything after this.

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Why did they call a Czech penalty if Canada had possession? Is that a iihf thing?

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PK not being invited is a disgrace.

Canada's defensive corps is weak. Dan Hamhuis? You kidding me? Yzerman could have waited. Today's game is not the most crucial one.

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05-12-2013, 10:39 AM
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PK not being invited is a disgrace.

Canada's defensive corps is weak. Dan Hamhuis? You kidding me? Yzerman could have waited. Today's game is not the most crucial one.
I agree Subban should be on the team (and I want him there), but making fun of Dan Hamhuis means you live under a shell.

Hamhuis is the anchor of one of the leagues best teams for 3 straight years. He's an absolutely incredible defenseman.

Arguably, they lost the cup because of his injury. He is their best player.

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Kind of annoyed Plekanec is risking aggrivating an injury playing, but I guess that's the same story every year for him. Not like there's anything after this.
Pleks will always play for his country if he can skate. He loves Montreal, but I'm sure he loves his country more.

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05-12-2013, 10:42 AM
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PK not being invited is a disgrace.

Canada's defensive corps is weak. Dan Hamhuis? You kidding me? Yzerman could have waited. Today's game is not the most crucial one.
Aren't they supposed to be auditioning for the Olympics? Schultz, Brodie and Schenn are in contention for Sochi? Really?

So dissappointing, Subby would have torn this tournament apart with all that pent-up frustration!

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I agree Subban should be on the team (and I want him there), but making fun of Dan Hamhuis means you live under a shell.

Hamhuis is the anchor of one of the leagues best teams for 3 straight years. He's an absolutely incredible defenseman.

Arguably, they lost the cup because of his injury. He is their best player.


Pleks will always play for his country if he can skate. He loves Montreal, but I'm sure he loves his country more.
Dan Hamhuis is not even close to PK. That's what I meant.

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I stepped out to surprise my mom with some Mother's Day stuff, how bad was Schenn's hit? 25 minutes for checking from behind?

Maybe Subban will get invited if he's suspended..

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Dan Hamhuis is not even close to PK. That's what I meant.
Offensively? Yeah.
Defensively? Hamhuis is much, much better. That's not a knock on PK either because he's really good, but Hamhuis is incredible.

I would absolutely drool over a Hamhuis-Subban pairing. That would be the NHL's best pair, no question.

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I stepped out to surprise my mom with some Mother's Day stuff, how bad was Schenn's hit? 25 minutes for checking from behind?

Maybe Subban will get invited if he's suspended..


Offensively? Yeah.
Defensively? Hamhuis is much, much better. That's not a knock on PK either because he's really good, but Hamhuis is incredible.

I would absolutely drool over a Hamhuis-Subban pairing. That would be the NHL's best pair, no question.
I beg to differ, but that's a simple question of opinion. Fact of the matter is not a lot of NHL defenceman can protect a puck in the D-zone like PK. His positioning may not be stellar, but his dynamism and athletism compensate a lot. He might be the most athletic hockey player out there.

If Canada doesn't feel like he should be at the Worlds, something is wrong with this country. And it ain't talent evaluation. There could be something else.

As for the RD and LD argument, it is mute in my mind. I've seen soviet teams with all guys on the same hand side and STILL be the most dominant team in the history of hockey. It's irrelevant. That's a very north american-style of thinking. And it killed a lot of canadian national hockey teams over the years.

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I stepped out to surprise my mom with some Mother's Day stuff, how bad was Schenn's hit? 25 minutes for checking from behind?

Maybe Subban will get invited if he's suspended..


Offensively? Yeah.
Defensively? Hamhuis is much, much better. That's not a knock on PK either because he's really good, but Hamhuis is incredible.

I would absolutely drool over a Hamhuis-Subban pairing. That would be the NHL's best pair, no question.
They're about on par defensively. And I absolutely love Hamhuis. I agree that losing him cost Vancouver the cup.

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Is Plekanec playing today and did Chuck suit up for his game?

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Is Plekanec playing today and did Chuck suit up for his game?
Not sure about pleks, but galchenyuk was too tired from travel to play.

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05-12-2013, 11:17 AM
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I beg to differ, but that's a simple question of opinion. Fact of the matter is not a lot of NHL defenceman can protect a puck in the D-zone like PK. His positioning may not be stellar, but his dynamism and athletism compensate a lot. He might be the most athletic hockey player out there.

If Canada doesn't feel like he should be at the Worlds, something is wrong with this country. And it ain't talent evaluation. There could be something else.

As for the RD and LD argument, it is mute in my mind. I've seen soviet teams with all guys on the same hand side and STILL be the most dominant team in the history of hockey. It's irrelevant. That's a very north american-style of thinking. And it killed a lot of canadian national hockey teams over the years.
It might be more that Canada made a commitment to their players. Right now, they have 20 guys and in IIHF games, you can dress 20 players (7 defenseman, 13 forwards usually) + plus your goalies. With Hamhuis joining the team, they have 20 guys dressed.

Not that I agree with that tactic, but that seems likely as well.

If Montreal got eliminated before Vancouver, it might be Canuck's fans wondering why Hamhuis isn't getting invited.

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They're about on par defensively. And I absolutely love Hamhuis. I agree that losing him cost Vancouver the cup.
I think Hamhuis protects his crease better and has a better first pass.

Subban is better at shielding the puck though, no question.

I love both players. Incredible hockey players.

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Not sure about pleks, but galchenyuk was too tired from travel to play.
Pleks is out.

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05-12-2013, 11:19 AM
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i find it hard to believe that subban wasnt asked. this team could definitely use him

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Yzerman has a chip on his shoulder when Molson didn't give him an interview for the GM position

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They're about on par defensively. And I absolutely love Hamhuis. I agree that losing him cost Vancouver the cup.
Excuses.

What cost Vancouver the Cup was their inability to score. They went from scoring 3.15 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.32 goals per game in the playoffs (14th). They went from allowing 2.20 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.76 in the playoffs (8th).

Hamhuis is very good, but the Canucks lost to Boston because they are a gutless team.

Anyway, Subban should be at the WC. That Canadian team needs some fire. They can get by on talent alone, but they're still a terrible team. Too many passengers.

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Did Canada win?

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Very good game by Kristo. I wish he had better linemates. Bjugstad is a solid prospect but he is not at this level yet and we know who Palushaj is - a good AHL player. With the addition of Galchy and Oshie, a centre and a winger will have to be bumped to make room and, if they go by merit, it should be Kristo's two linemates.

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Excuses.

What cost Vancouver the Cup was their inability to score. They went from scoring 3.15 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.32 goals per game in the playoffs (14th). They went from allowing 2.20 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.76 in the playoffs (8th).

Hamhuis is very good, but the Canucks lost to Boston because they are a gutless team.

Anyway, Subban should be at the WC. That Canadian team needs some fire. They can get by on talent alone, but they're still a terrible team. Too many passengers.
I do love how context in this forum = excuses.

Give vancouver Mario Lemieux, do they still lose because they're a gutless team? No? Then I guess the gutlessness can be overcome by adding a good player or two. Great.

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Excuses.

What cost Vancouver the Cup was their inability to score. They went from scoring 3.15 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.32 goals per game in the playoffs (14th). They went from allowing 2.20 goals per game in the regular season (1st) to 2.76 in the playoffs (8th).

Hamhuis is very good, but the Canucks lost to Boston because they are a gutless team.

Anyway, Subban should be at the WC. That Canadian team needs some fire. They can get by on talent alone, but they're still a terrible team. Too many passengers.
No... they lost because they lost Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

If that's a gutless team, I'll take one of those every year thank you.

lol what a hilarious post. Thank you for that, I was having a slow day.

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IIHF is so stupid, Galchenyuk officially "played" the game in their stats.

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