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JVR or Seguin?

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JVR 22 24.44%
Seguin 68 75.56%
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05-12-2013, 09:30 AM
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JVR or Seguin?

Simple. One's a LW, one's a RW (no indication of switching back to centre). JVR is a playoff performer, Seguin only has points in 4 of his 25 games. Boston fans say he has a better defensive game now than before but I see it as more of a product of Selke Bergeron. Close PPG %s. Your choice of these 2nd overalls?

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05-12-2013, 09:31 AM
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the non-leaf one wins

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05-12-2013, 09:32 AM
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JVR is a better player now but let's give Seguin another 3 years to figure it out, just like JVR had.

JVR's career high in points is 40. Seguin's is 67.


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05-12-2013, 09:38 AM
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Seguin is going to make a lot of people look stupid very soon. Both are good players but I think Seguin will be the better player going forward. I think he's a better (and a bit smarter) Duchene. Duchene struggled in his 3rd year as well.....

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Seguin, not close.













Not close at all.

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Which one do I prefer? JVR. Because he's a Leaf and I'm a Leafs fan, and because he's a big bodied winger who drives the net, is strong along the boards, throws some hits, is good offensively and defensively. Plays the kind of game I like.

Who is better? Seguin.

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05-12-2013, 10:36 AM
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Homer vote JVR, but its obviously Seguin. Though, love JVR game style.

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05-12-2013, 10:39 AM
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Seguin easily. Having a bad year and it's on par with JVR's career year so far.

3 years younger, lead team in points/goals as a 20 year old, almost 30 goals(29) in his sophomore season, etc. etc.

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05-12-2013, 10:40 AM
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the non-leaf one wins
Well, he should win. This poll would be even more of a beat-down last year when JVR was on the Flyers.


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05-12-2013, 10:48 AM
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Thanks for that very unbiased comparison. One important thing you forgot to mention though was that JVR had an amazing 15 blocked shots this year compared to a paltry 6 blocked shots from Seguin.

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Leaf fan saying Seguin.

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In the playoffs? JvR. The guy has showed up every game, upped his physical play, stays in front of the net, and battles hard.

For the regular season, Seguin. Not as much intensity in the playoffs and Seguin can use his speed well in the regular season.

Hockey IQ...they both need to get better.

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Seguin always. He's a few years younger too.

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05-12-2013, 10:59 AM
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Well maybe I'm too focused in on this playoff series, but JVR please.

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05-12-2013, 11:08 AM
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Seguin had a horrible year this year and had the same amount of points as JvR.

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Easily Seguin, already better than JVR and he's 3 years younger.

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Simple. One's a LW, one's a RW (no indication of switching back to centre). JVR is a playoff performer, Seguin only has points in 4 of his 25 games. Boston fans say he has a better defensive game now than before but I see it as more of a product of Selke Bergeron. Close PPG %s. Your choice of these 2nd overalls?
JVR has 18 points in 44 career playoff games... Yeah he had 1 playoff run where he was hot for 5 games but that doesn't make him a "playoff performer".

I'd take Seguin because hes already put up better numbers, hes younger and has more upside.

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A little too early to tell in my opinion but I don't these two are as far apart some people seem to think and I don't think they will be far apart in the future as well( regardless of their age difference).

I would prefer Seguin slightly over JVR because he can play C position but otherwise JVR is a solid player as well and he is being heavily underrated if people think he can't be compared with Seguin at this moment.

Just my two cents.

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05-12-2013, 12:12 PM
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Easily Seguin, already better than JVR and he's 3 years younger.
I would argue that, he is not EASILY better than JVR.

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I would argue that, he is not EASILY better than JVR.
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Pretty hard to argue against JVR during the playoffs.

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Well for a start, just as how some people said this Seguin's third full year in the league, You can also argue that this is JVR third full year in the league as well( remember he broke into the league after 2 years of development).

Secondly, JVR has shown very solid progression playing on 3rd and 4th line on Flyers as opposed to Seguin playing on Bruins first line. Seguin did have a solid year last year but as you can JVR was also on a verge of having of a very good season if it hadn't for his injuries( I believe he had like 16 points in 24 games last year) and then he got a foot injury and struggled a little.

This year was his first full season with some elite talent to play alongside him and he did a solid job by producing 18 goals and 32 points, same as Seguin.

With that being said, I would say Seguin is and has still been a better player offenisvely but not by a wide margin.

And lastly, when you factor in size, physicality, and defensively play, I would give the nod to JVR because even though he is not a gritty or physical player for his size, he does use it to his advantage in front of the net, plays a more physical game than Seguin, and he is also quite solid defensively and plays on the PK regularly( something I haven't seen at all from Seguin from my viewings).

Again, I don't think it wrong to say to say Seguin isn't the better player but easily or AINEC shouldn't be used right now.

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05-12-2013, 01:28 PM
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Well for a start, just as how some people said this Seguin's third full year in the league, You can also argue that this is JVR third full year in the league as well( remember he broke into the league after 2 years of development).

Secondly, JVR has shown very solid progression playing on 3rd and 4th line on Flyers as opposed to Seguin playing on Bruins first line. Seguin did have a solid year last year but as you can JVR was also on a verge of having of a very good season if it hadn't for his injuries( I believe he had like 16 points in 24 games last year) and then he got a foot injury and struggled a little.

This year was his first full season with some elite talent to play alongside him and he did a solid job by producing 18 goals and 32 points, same as Seguin.

With that being said, I would say Seguin is and has still been a better player offenisvely but not by a wide margin.

And lastly, when you factor in size, physicality, and defensively play, I would give the nod to JVR because even though he is not a gritty or physical player for his size, he does use it to his advantage in front of the net, plays a more physical game than Seguin, and he is also quite solid defensively and plays on the PK regularly( something I haven't seen at all from Seguin from my viewings).

Again, I don't think it wrong to say to say Seguin isn't the better player but easily or AINEC shouldn't be used right now.
I don't know how good JVR is defensively but Seguin has turned into a really good back checker. Seguin also started on the fourth line at a younger age.

It's JVR's 4th year in the league and he's 3 years older then Seguin.He's also never scored over 40 points, although I think he would have if this was a regular season.

JVR wil be a good goal scorer but I think Seguin will be quite a bit better in his prime.

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