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09-27-2006, 11:43 AM
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If Ferland was going to be exposed to waivers the media would be all over it and would have been from day 1 of camp. I'm not sure where this rumour comes from but it holds no water with me.

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09-27-2006, 11:48 AM
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If Ferland was going to be exposed to waivers the media would be all over it and would have been from day 1 of camp. I'm not sure where this rumour comes from but it holds no water with me.
He's 23 and has played 3 full years in the AHL. It's not that it's a rumour. It's that those numbers AFAIK add up to having to pass through waivers to be sent to the AHL as per the CBA.

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09-27-2006, 11:55 AM
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RDS updated their article with quotes from the cut players, who supposedly all had individual meetings with Carbonneau before being sent down.

Ferland said: "I'm disappointed. I performed well and thought I had a chance to stay. Unfortunately, there was only one spot available, and many players vying for it. I have nothing to feel bad about my performance and I leave for Hamilton with a positive attitude. I can play in the NHL, and the organization knows it. The season is long and there will be call-ups."

To me that doesn't sound like a player being placed on waivers.


Ferland will be one of the first call ups if/when injurys strike .
i like your attitude Ferland you'll be here sooner rather than later

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09-27-2006, 12:00 PM
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To me that doesn't sound like a player being placed on waivers.
We're just hyper-sensitive about waivers for some reason. I don't know why. Every year, it's the same story. Every year, dozens, hundreds even, of players clear waivers on their assignment to the minors. It is never a big story. It's rarely ever a story at all. There's no reason to think it should be a story in Ferland's case either. He has played 3 AHL seasons and scored a grand total of 18 goals. Nobody cares if he goes on waivers or not, in fact, in most corners it would have been an automatic assumption. There have already been dozens of better players than Ferland who have cleared waivers this fall. And there are more to come. It's just not even an issue that should really be on anybody's radar, except insofar as it is inherently obvious from a general awareness of the rules.

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09-27-2006, 12:02 PM
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Ferland will be one of the first call ups if/when injurys strike .
i like your attitude Ferland you'll be here sooner rather than later

He should not be a call up.I can't beleive this guy got cut.He played is hart out and again the Habs reward their player by cutting them.Maybe next time buddy .Between him and Downny it is a brainless decision.How do you keep Downny im still trying to figure it out!

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09-27-2006, 12:30 PM
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We're just hyper-sensitive about waivers for some reason. I don't know why. Every year, it's the same story. Every year, dozens, hundreds even, of players clear waivers on their assignment to the minors. It is never a big story. It's rarely ever a story at all. There's no reason to think it should be a story in Ferland's case either. He has played 3 AHL seasons and scored a grand total of 18 goals. Nobody cares if he goes on waivers or not, in fact, in most corners it would have been an automatic assumption. There have already been dozens of better players than Ferland who have cleared waivers this fall. And there are more to come. It's just not even an issue that should really be on anybody's radar, except insofar as it is inherently obvious from a general awareness of the rules.
I agree with you 100%. Good points.
Hey aren't Blind Guardian coming to Montreal in October or something?

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09-27-2006, 12:32 PM
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He should not be a call up.I can't beleive this guy got cut.He played is hart out and again the Habs reward their player by cutting them.Maybe next time buddy .Between him and Downny it is a brainless decision.How do you keep Downny im still trying to figure it out!
Obv cause Downey brings the team more potatoes than Ferland does.

But seriously... Downey will sit in the pressbox most games, and come in when the team needs a scrapper. Like vs. the Leafs, when you know Tucker wants a piece of Kovalev.

Ferland is a good role player who takes the body, but is another Murray. I like Jonathan lots too, but I see nothing wrong with him starting the year in Hamilton due to a lack of space.

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09-27-2006, 01:01 PM
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I agree with you 100%. Good points.
Hey aren't Blind Guardian coming to Montreal in October or something?
Dunno when they're in Montreal, but they are in Toronto in November. I doubt I'll be allowed to go, though.

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09-27-2006, 02:14 PM
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8 cuts

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=178990&hubname=nhl

Kosty, Lats and O'Byrne still in the mix

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09-27-2006, 02:15 PM
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I really expected one of Ferland or Lapierre to make the team right away. I'm sure we will see some of them with the Habs this year anyway.

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09-27-2006, 03:10 PM
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TSN 'ice chips' says Ferland on waivers.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10460&hubname=

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09-27-2006, 05:01 PM
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TSN 'ice chips' says Ferland on waivers.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10460&hubname=
They also say the team may keep 22 players instead of 23? Wouldn't that make keeping Lats close to impossible?


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09-27-2006, 05:12 PM
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He should not be a call up.I can't beleive this guy got cut.He played is hart out and again the Habs reward their player by cutting them.Maybe next time buddy .Between him and Downny it is a brainless decision.How do you keep Downny im still trying to figure it out!

This is why knucklehead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CukwBq1QICQ

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09-27-2006, 05:47 PM
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TSN 'ice chips' says Ferland on waivers.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10460&hubname=
They should have said that we had placed Dannis (?), Groulx (?) and Baines on waivers too...

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09-27-2006, 06:11 PM
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He should not be a call up.I can't beleive this guy got cut.He played is hart out and again the Habs reward their player by cutting them.Maybe next time buddy .Between him and Downny it is a brainless decision.How do you keep Downny im still trying to figure it out!
I agree with you that Ferland is a superior player than Downey. But it also means that the Habs can still fire or send down Downey too and keep both Latendresse & Kostitsyn in the line up as well as Perezhogin. Hopefully Ferland won't be snatched by another team if they need to call back him.. Remember Hainsey ?

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09-27-2006, 06:22 PM
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I love how confusing the whole waiver issue is. Dayum.

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09-27-2006, 06:28 PM
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About Ferland on waivers...

Remember, a team that claims any player on waivers (Like Ferland) has to KEEP the player on their NHL roster, they can't take the player and then send him to AHL themselves.

Ferland may not be good enough for most teams to give an NHL spot to. Should Perezhogin be waived, I have no doubt he'd be picked and early, but not Ferland.

Although, I was surprised when Beauchemin was picked.

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09-27-2006, 06:44 PM
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About Ferland on waivers...

Remember, a team that claims any player on waivers (Like Ferland) has to KEEP the player on their NHL roster, they can't take the player and then send him to AHL themselves.

Ferland may not be good enough for most teams to give an NHL spot to. Should Perezhogin be waived, I have no doubt he'd be picked and early, but not Ferland.

Although, I was surprised when Beauchemin was picked.
Just think that some people in Pittsburgh would like to piss some people off in Montreal....

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09-27-2006, 06:52 PM
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Habs should just waive Raphael as a distraction while the others just slip by.

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09-27-2006, 08:13 PM
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Latendresse and Kostistyn spared...

Habs spare two rookies

Latendresse, Kostitsyn hopeful

MONTREAL (CP) - Rookie hopefuls Guillaume Latendresse and Andrei Kostitsyn were still in the mix for a job Wednesday after the Montreal Canadiens made eight cuts from training camp.

Players sent to the Hamilton Bulldogs of the AHL were goaltender Yann Danis, defenceman Danny Groulx and forwards Kyle Chipchura, Maxim Lapierre, Ajay Baines, Jonathan Ferland and Corey Locke.

Goaltender Carey Price was returned to Tri-City of the Western Hockey League.

Latendresse and Kostitsyn are battling for the one job open for a forward. Defence prospects Dan Jancevski, Andre Benoit and Ryan O'Byrne also remained in camp.

There are now 29 players in camp, including three inactive with injuries - forward Mikhail Grabovsky and defencemen Francis Bouillon and Jean-Philippe Cote.


Personally I'd love to see a Ribeiro trade to insert both in the lineup...

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09-27-2006, 08:17 PM
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Personally I'd love to see a Ribeiro trade to insert both in the lineup...
Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner! Congratulations on having created yet another useless Ribeiro-bashing thread!

There already is a thread about the cuts...

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09-27-2006, 08:19 PM
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Personally I'd love to see a Ribeiro trade to insert both in the lineup...
Ahhhh Yes........... trade a 55-60 pt CENTER to insert a rookie WINGER on the team. Not to mention Ribs has had 2 of his better games so far in the pre-season...

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With Ribeiro and Latendresse we would have two bone crushing forwards... we saw yesterday what the NEW Ribeiro was able to do.

But jokes apart, this is probably the most important season for Ribeiro, and he seems to have taken things seriously. He showed yesterday what he was able to do when the effort was there. Ron Fournier said it was his best game for the Canadiens since his debut in the NHL.

As far as Latendresse vs Kostitsyn is concern, the thing to do would be to sent down Kostitsyn... He would be one call away from the big league, while Latendresse would be one whole year away.

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I think the best option would be to deal Aebi. That way both could stay with the team!



















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