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05-11-2013, 10:29 PM
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Polak

Was most impressed with the Blues this playoffs.

Gotta admit tho that your defenceman Polak was catching my eye for all the wrong reasons.

Every time there was a screw-up I'd notice on the replay that he was a part of it.

And that includes the winning goal that went off his stick.

Was really hoping the Blues would win but perhaps you'd be better without this guy.

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05-11-2013, 10:41 PM
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Yeah he started off good in the first 2 games and then was downright awful for the rest.

The thing is we need his physical presence on defense. He can be available if we find someone to replace that.

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05-12-2013, 12:38 AM
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I think it had more to do with Hitchcock's pairings than anything else to be honest. Paired with Russell, Polak seems like a much better player because he has a puck mover with him.

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05-12-2013, 12:53 AM
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I think it had more to do with Hitchcock's pairings than anything else to be honest. Paired with Russell, Polak seems like a much better player because he has a puck mover with him.
this. him and Jax had transition game problems and that wasn't really a surprise

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05-12-2013, 06:43 AM
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this. him and Jax had transition game problems and that wasn't really a surprise
They did have a hard time getting the puck out of the zone. I think the also spent a fair amount of time with the Stewart/Vladi/McDonald line on the ice. And that creates all kind of problems in our zone.

As for the last goal, that isn't on him either. If he got more of the puck, it would have been a block. Just didn't get enough of if.

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05-12-2013, 09:52 AM
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Polak got away from his game. He was too active in the offensive zone. He has no touch or hockey sense. He needs to stick to his strengths. Great skater, with size and the ability to play sound defensive hockey.

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Polak got away from his game. He was too active in the offensive zone. He has no touch or hockey sense. He needs to stick to his strengths. Great skater, with size and the ability to play sound defensive hockey.
Agreed. I really like Roman as a player, I love that he tries, that he's a real grunt, strong as an ox. I generally love him on this team. As long as he doesn't step out of his role too much. He's useless as a shooter, too. Seems to always shoot it hard as hell, but always miss the net.

I don't know how much you could blame Roman for trying to do stuff offensively, though. Especially in this series against the Kings, since our forwards didn't do crap.

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05-12-2013, 03:50 PM
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Was most impressed with the Blues this playoffs.

Gotta admit tho that your defenceman Polak was catching my eye for all the wrong reasons.

Every time there was a screw-up I'd notice on the replay that he was a part of it.

And that includes the winning goal that went off his stick.

Was really hoping the Blues would win but perhaps you'd be better without this guy.
I was never a fan of Polak. I remember watching the Chezch Rep. a few years ago and it seemed like everytime they let a goal in Polak was involved. Never liked him since. He brings toughness for sure but lacks smartness.

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05-12-2013, 07:37 PM
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I was never a fan of Polak. I remember watching the Chezch Rep. a few years ago and it seemed like everytime they let a goal in Polak was involved. Never liked him since. He brings toughness for sure but lacks smartness.
He needs a good-skating puck moving defensive partner. Then, he'll be all right on the 3rd pairing. Russell will be better than Jackman for him.

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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I disagree to everything in this thread. Polak is a top 6 guy.

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When it comes to comparing how our D played in the playoffs compared to reg season, Pietrangelo to me was THE one that seemed to drink the retard juice. I saw a LOT of him standing around in his own end like he didn't at all have a clue as to what the hell he was doing. I went back & watched all the games a few times, even in our wins he looked panicked at least. NOT saying his entire TOI was bad, so don't go there. JUst looked like the pace & pressure flummoxed him. I was soooooo sick of seeing the "pass behind him to nowhere OR to a kings player" move just to avoid the pressure or the hit.

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05-12-2013, 10:25 PM
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Yeah he started off good in the first 2 games and then was downright awful for the rest.

The thing is we need his physical presence on defense. He can be available if we find someone to replace that.
I see Hakanpaa as his eventual replacement when the Blues need to shed salary (you can't have both bottom pairing d-men making over $3M/yr), but there is no way in he!! you can put Hakanpaa and Jackman out there together. You need to pair him with a LD that can skate.

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I see Hakanpaa as his eventual replacement when the Blues need to shed salary (you can't have both bottom pairing d-men making over $3M/yr), but there is no way in he!! you can put Hakanpaa and Jackman out there together. You need to pair him with a LD that can skate.
I haven't seen Hakanpaa play but he's pretty huge at 6'5'' 220 and sounds like he can play physical so that's definitely a possibility.

Russell and Cole can both skate and could be paired with him. We never should have taken Jackman away from Shattenkirk.

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I feel like far too many of these opinions have more to do with the Blues losing the series than they do with how Polak played.

The first two games of the series were certainly his best, but being paired with Jackman proved to be a bad pairing. I don't think Jackman turned in a good effort in any game of this series.

Polak had a few bad pinches (as did every defenseman on this team) and could have played better at times (as could've every defenseman), but aside from Bouwmeester, I don't think any other defenseman played better on this team during that series.

Polak would have played much better had he had a puck mover at his disposal or even if Jackman had played well. He's a reliable #4-6 physical defensive defenseman on a pretty cheap contract.

Maybe I'm missing something here that someone can shed some light on, but it just seems like nitpicking turned into overall dissatisfaction for no reason.

Edit: Admittedly, Polak is one of my favorite players, but I don't feel like I'm being biased here. I'm just not jumping on the bash bandwagon unless someone can give me a reason.

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Wait. You think J-Bo and Polak were better than Pietrangelo?

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Wait. You think J-Bo and Polak were better than Pietrangelo?
For what role they play and what is expected of them, yes.

Pietrangelo played as well as Polak did offensively and it's glaringly obvious Polak is not good offensively.


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05-13-2013, 02:09 AM
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kinda wish we could just get rid of jackman and polak... if we're keeping leopold with shatty anyway... save us a ton of money and put russell and cole on third pair... and with mcdonald gone and possibly stewart... we could definitely pick up that big goal scorer we've been looking for...

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kinda wish we could just get rid of jackman and polak... if we're keeping leopold with shatty anyway... save us a ton of money and put russell and cole on third pair... and with mcdonald gone and possibly stewart... we could definitely pick up that big goal scorer we've been looking for...
Both Jackman AND Polak? Replace with Russel and Cole? Watch out Blues goalies.

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kinda wish we could just get rid of jackman and polak... if we're keeping leopold with shatty anyway... save us a ton of money and put russell and cole on third pair... and with mcdonald gone and possibly stewart... we could definitely pick up that big goal scorer we've been looking for...
Yeah this makes little sense.

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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I disagree to everything in this thread. Polak is a top 6 guy.
...And who said he wasn't?

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I haven't seen Hakanpaa play but he's pretty huge at 6'5'' 220 and sounds like he can play physical so that's definitely a possibility.

Russell and Cole can both skate and could be paired with him. We never should have taken Jackman away from Shattenkirk.
I agree 100% with this. Leopold was a complete nonfactor in his time here. I think we would have been much more formidable with Jax-Shat and Rus-Polak.

Cole deserves his shot as well, he is a great combo of size and skating ability.

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I agree 100% with this. Leopold was a complete nonfactor in his time here. I think we would have been much more formidable with Jax-Shat and Rus-Polak.

Cole deserves his shot as well, he is a great combo of size and skating ability.
i would have been completely fine with a leopold-polak pairing. i do not think hitchcock knew what to do with him and he just kind of festered on our pairings like an open sore.

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05-16-2013, 11:49 PM
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Polak is taking an unfair beating on this thread. The guy is a good defenseman. As others have already stated, he had no business being paired with Jackman. He needs to be paired with a partner that can skate and move the puck. I thought he and Russell were a good combo, but I guess I missed something.

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