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05-13-2013, 01:07 PM
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Put someone else on the point, as Beaver shouldn't even be there. Just give Kreider Beaver's spot on the PP.
Kreider can't work the half-wall well and is too soft to play front of the net. I see no reason why he should get PP time over Pyatt.

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Kreider can't work the half-wall well and is too soft to play front of the net. I see no reason why he should get PP time over Pyatt.
Unless put down low to screen the goalie, Pyatt should be nowhere near the PP. Too slow, not enough skill.

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Kreider can't work the half-wall well and is too soft to play front of the net. I see no reason why he should get PP time over Pyatt.
Pyatt is slower and worse.

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Unless put down low to screen the goalie, Pyatt should be nowhere near the PP. Too slow, not enough skill.
Yup, that'll be his role on the PP. He is more experienced at it than Kreider.

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Honestly, the PP is so atrocious that I really don't care who they put on.

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Kreider can't work the half-wall well and is too soft to play front of the net. I see no reason why he should get PP time over Pyatt.
The Rangers are something like 2 for 23 on PPs this series. That's a pretty good reason. His shot is too good to not find the net once in awhile if he's given some space.

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05-13-2013, 01:21 PM
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Honestly, the PP is so atrocious that I really don't care who they put on.
This.

Give me
Stamkos-Malkin-Crosby
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And they still wouldn't score.

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Honestly, the PP is so atrocious that I really don't care who they put on.
At this point, if I'm Sully, I put Marty out there

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PP is so ass. No way to fix it apparently.

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Kreider is lethal around the slot because of his release and his accuracy. However, to have a guy in the middle like that on the PP usually requires a reverse umbrella, or at least works the best in that manner. I can't envision Torts trusting a defender enough to run a one-man point strategy on the PP.

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The Rangers are something like 2 for 23 on PPs this series. That's a pretty good reason. His shot is too good to not find the net once in awhile if he's given some space.
He might have the best shot on the team. It's not like anything else is working anyway so LOL at Pyatt being there.

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And they still wouldn't score.
Well duh. Too many centers.

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And they still wouldn't score.
and it still wouldn't be Tortorella's responsibility....

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My beef is that this team is apparently allergic to taking one-timers.

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Pyatt is slower and worse.
Speed isn't the biggest factor on the PP. Worse is debatable.

My thoughts on Kreider on the powerplay is more why not than WHY NOT?!

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Just win. Lgr!!

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much heart mediation is needed

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Take a lesson from Brass goal last night, park somebody right in front of this guy, he can't stop what he can't see

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He might have the best shot on the team. It's not like anything else is working anyway so LOL at Pyatt being there.



Well duh. Too many centers.
Stamkos plays more of a winger role on the Tampa powerplay anyway.

If Girardi and Beaver are on the PP today, I will puke.

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Game 7 ma boyz! This can not be healthy! Multitasking university, hand-out, smoking cigarettes like a mother****er, killing beers ...

Can't wait! 2 AM it begins ... holy **** ... 5 AM earliest exit ... hahahaha!


Let's do it! LGR!

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05-13-2013, 01:46 PM
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It's obvious that Torts doesn't trust the powerplay. Here's why:

Yesterday, on our 5-3 PP, we had 5 forwards on. However, when we have a 5 on 4, Dan Girardi is on the powerplay. Therefore, I honestly think that part of Tortorella's powerplay plan is to not get scored on.

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05-13-2013, 01:49 PM
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Pyatt is slower and worse.
Blind hate toward Pyatt. He's the target of blind hate a lot, just like Boyle. They're just easy to hate.

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It's obvious that Torts doesn't trust the powerplay. Here's why:

Yesterday, on our 5-3 PP, we had 5 forwards on. However, when we have a 5 on 4, Dan Girardi is on the powerplay. Therefore, I honestly think that part of Tortorella's powerplay plan is to not get scored on.
I think that should be part of any coach's PP plan!

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My beef is that this team is apparently allergic to taking one-timers.
I figured our players didnt know how to do them, since most of them are ********, but Girardi took like 5 yesterday.

That pissed me off even more.

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With what Crease said about one timers, that's honestly the one thing that's missing. Our offense look slow and incompetent at times because of the lack of decisive decisions that can get shots through before bodies, sticks, and the goaltender gets into place. That's +passing +shooting lanes if we just knew how to make those quick 1 time passes, shots. That's on Torts and Sully.

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Maybe in the off season run a PP similar to the Caps. Have Kreider slot in for Ovechkin, BrassGod slot in for Backstrom DZ/Moore for Green etc
The Caps run an umbrella formation, which is heavily based on the handedness of their players.

Your triggerman should be of the same handedness as your PPQB, with a secondary playmaker at the other circle with the opposite handedness. Then you have another playmaker down low with the same handedness as the secondary playmaker.

The Caps have Ovechkin-Green-Ribeiro up high, with Bäckström down low and Ward(?) in front of the net.

If the Rangers were to mimic that I guess we'd put Kreider/Nash/Brass on the right circle, Moore/MDZ/Zucc/Brass on the point, Strålman/Girardi on the left circle, Stepan down low, and Cally/Hags/Boyle in front of the net. If Richards has to be on the PP put him on the point or at the right circle.

The reason the guy down low needs to have the same handedness as the secondary playmaker is so the entire formation can rotate so that he gets into a shooting position.


Wash:

----------Ward
-------------------Bäckström

Ovechkin--------Ribeiro
----------Green

Rotate:

-------Ward
Ovechkin---------Bäckström

-----Green-------Ribeiro

Every stick points to the middle at all times, the puck can be moved quickly and one-timers are always a possibility.

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