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05-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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Bobby Ryan to NJD

What would it take ? Something like ??

2013 9th Overall Pick
Merrill
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What else has to be added onto that to get it done

Please , I dont want any flame wars starting. Just asking.

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05-13-2013, 02:33 PM
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We really have no reason to trade him for futures. Our roster for next year is pretty much full already and our prospect pool is pretty stacked.

If we trade Bobby I've got to to think it's for a similarly valued 2C or #2 D-man.

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Sooo 2013 9th Overall + Fayne + Merrill
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2013 9th Overall + Henrique

I think I would that, as much as I would hate to lose Henrique

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Sooo 2013 9th Overall + Fayne + Merrill
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2013 9th Overall + Henrique

I think I would that, as much as I would hate to lose Henrique
That would be the ideal package in my mind. The only thing I think would be better is a top pairing defensemen.

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The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?

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The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?
was coming back from a wrist injury (forgot what was injured) then the entire Devil's offense went to a slump.

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The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?
Started the season with an injury, and he was very streaky. Always solid defensively, however he did struggle every now and then offensively.

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I can't give up 9 AND Henrique for Ryan. I just can't

and I love Ryan.

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I can't give up 9 AND Henrique for Ryan. I just can't

and I love Ryan.
Would be hard, but I think I do it

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I really want Ryan but the combination of things we have to trade doesnt sit well with me. at some point it has to involve Henrique or Merrill and I want to see them both with us for a while. Id be comfortable with like a 1st, 2nd and Matteau (and maybe a bonus D or something) but I dont think Ducks would be into that

at the end of the day, I think we just make the draft, move a couple of peices here and there and wait 1-3 years for all the young talent to work their way into our system

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the Devils cannot afford to trade roster forwards away to acquire roster forwards. they just don't have the assets.

they need to trade DMen, prospects, or picks, or some combination thereof.

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the Devils cannot afford to trade roster forwards away to acquire roster forwards. they just don't have the assets.

they need to trade DMen, prospects, or picks, or some combination thereof.
You have to give to get.

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Maybe something like

Ryan + Allen/Sbisa

for

Larsson + 1st rounder 2014 + prospect/depth forward/2nd rounder 2013/2014

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What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?

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You have to give to get.
nowhere did I say it wasn't a fair deal.

but trading Henrique to acquire Ryan is counterproductive.

we need to ADD Ryan TO Henrique.

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What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?
I'd rather have Henrique+9th.

If we are going for a defender for Ryan then it needs to be an established top pairing guy. I love Larsson but he is not what we need right now.

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What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?
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Maybe something like

Ryan + Allen/Sbisa

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Larsson + 1st rounder 2014 + prospect/depth forward/2nd rounder 2013/2014
Devils cannot trade their 1st next year. they have to give it up

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What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?
not sure Hiller is our best option tbh, and theres not way id give up #9 AND Larsson in this offseason, id seriously question Lou's practice after that

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I'd rather have Henrique+9th.

If we are going for a defender for Ryan then it needs to be an established top pairing guy. I love Larsson but he is not what we need right now.
I'd rather have Henrique + 9th too, I just don't see them doing that.

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I have no idea why we're trying to unload our future for Bobby Ryan. I love Bobby Ryan but not at the cost of handing over Larsson/Henrique + 9th overall pick.

We have a aging roster and the last thing we need is to trade our up and coming studs for a guy who'll be hitting free agency in 2 years.

With our mediocre track record when it comes to keeping our own pending UFA's, that's a deal I'd never do unless Lou reached some type of agreement on a extention... and even with that, I wouldn't do it.

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There are some nice offers here in terms of value, but I don't see anything that makes sense for us. We need left wingers even if Bobby stays.

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nowhere did I say it wasn't a fair deal.

but trading Henrique to acquire Ryan is counterproductive.

we need to ADD Ryan TO Henrique.
Trust me I understand that. I would love to add Henrique to play with Bobby. I have come to terms that trading Bobby is the best way to get what we need.

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Something around Henrique or Larsson makes sense.

Depends whether Murray will pull the trigger.

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Not giving up Larsson for Ryan, at all really.

Henrique and a pick would be something I'd consider.

Ryan's signed for another 2 years? Hmm..

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Not giving up Larsson for Ryan, at all really.

Henrique and a pick would be something I'd consider.

Ryan's signed for another 2 years? Hmm..
Ryan's ONLY signed for another 2 years. Too risky to give up that package. And I'd love to have Bobby Ryan. But to trade Henrique & 9th and risk he walks in 2 years? No way.

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