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05-14-2013, 10:46 AM
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Another small, non physical D. We are stocking up!
One of Diaz or Markov, if not both, will probably be gone if Nygren makes the NHL in a year or so. Weber definitely will be.

Pretty much every other defender in the system except Mac Bennett is big and physical. You are (my guess is intentionally) confusing short term and long term needs.

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Not saying that, but it's hardly something to get excited about.
Ah. So you are *****ing for *****in' sake.


It's all right. Come on. Cry some more. I am sure other posters will be happy to entertain your tears.

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Not saying that, but it's hardly something to get excited about.
Signing our prospect that just won an award as the best Swede d-man in the SEL is not anything to get excited about because you said so.

Got it.

Excuse me while I disregard your opinion and join in with the rest of the sane Habs fans that are discussing the signing.

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Similar to Diaz and we have TOO MANY of the same type of D-men.
Right. Because as we know, trades have been outlawed in the NHL.

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Similar to Diaz and we have TOO MANY of the same type of D-men.
OK Mr.Negativity

It is all about building organizational depth. You need to build thru the draft to build up trade chips then use trade chips to fill certain holes.

Be happy a late round pick MAY turn into an NHL player and if he does it helps us one way or the other. He will be traded or he will beat out Diaz on our blueline.

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OK Mr.Negativity

It is all about building organizational depth. You need to build thru the draft to build up trade chips then use trade chips to fill certain holes.

Be happy a late round pick MAY turn into an NHL player and if he does it helps us one way or the other. He will be traded or he will beat out Diaz on our blueline.
The Habs are the best at "organizational depth". It's our forte.

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The Habs are the best at "organizational depth". It's our forte.
care to explain

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The Habs are the best at "organizational depth". It's our forte.
You really are just complaining to complain.

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The Habs are the best at "organizational depth". It's our forte.
Depth in the PMD department is hardly a bad thing. the presence of Nygren will force Diaz to improve further or consider he might be upstaged by the younger stud. We'll have the opportunity to decide which of the two has the greatest upside, and then we can afford to trade a relatively quality PMD to a team who desperately needs it.

That's quality asset management, right there.

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The guy's a stud. 51 games,13 goals,19 assists,32 points ,49 points +11. We need a right handed shot with size 6'. 2013 Borje Salming award winner for the best defender in the Swedish Elite League.
Jesus. Best D award in the Swedish elite? Not too shabby. I had no idea. Come to think of it, 13 G 19 A is pretty damn impressive in that league.

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You realize he'd just come back from a concussion, right? He's also the player that got Eller seriously injured, and besides one game, he didn't look very good the rest of the way. Probably felt horrible about that.

Bourque (who I really love), was just as bad when he first came back from his concussion. He was awesome by the time playoffs rolled around, but he had a bigger head start over Diaz as well.
I do, trust me. Which is why I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Let's see what he can do in another season and (hopefully) POs.

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Seems to me like a Diaz clone, except 1 inch taller and was 2 years younger when he started playing well overseas.

Never seen the guy really play but his numbers this year look like Diaz' numbers from 3 years ago.
UH, 1 inch taller and 2 years younger with a similar performance in a much better league is, well, not Diaz...

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Depth in the PMD department is hardly a bad thing. the presence of Nygren will force Diaz to improve further or consider he might be upstaged by the younger stud. We'll have the opportunity to decide which of the two has the greatest upside, and then we can afford to trade a relatively quality PMD to a team who desperately needs it.

That's quality asset management, right there.
I heard the same about Weber...

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You really are just complaining to complain.
This

He really needs this

I can't believe some posters here that are always 100% negative. How does one live each day feeling so negative.

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I heard the same about Weber...
And Weber has really diminished in quality, sadly. He had the opportunity of improving and proving he was still a quality PMD. He hasn't.

If Diaz doesn't degrade in quality like Weber, and if Magnus proves himself, either one could be prime trade bait.

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I heard the same about Weber...
How many games have you actually seen him play and vs which teams?

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This guys shot is so smooth and you can't even track the puck because of the speed. A double right handed shot powerplay with Subban can almost mimic the Wiz/Subban combo we had.

Very good signing, minimal risk with huge upside.

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Similar to Diaz and we have TOO MANY of the same type of D-men.
It's nice to have replacements when one goes down for half a 48-game season/quarter of a season...

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Seriously dude, I take your meaning but as long as we ice a D-core that has a good mix of PMDs, size, toughness and physicality, even if we do it by trade here and there, its cool. Being deep with skilled PMDs is a good thing, not bad. When you are deep with a kind of player you can trade to get another kind of player you do not have, and the skilled ones pretty much always get the highest value. Right now we have on the roster 3 PMDs in PK, Markov and Diaz, with Nathan B on the way. This gives MB the ability of moving one of these guys, Im thinking Diaz, for a crease clearer D-man.
I don't know IMO if Diaz is a PMD. He as PMD-type flashes, but to the level Subban is and Markov once was (still actually is, but he is 34 remember...).

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Depth in the PMD department is hardly a bad thing. the presence of Nygren will force Diaz to improve further or consider he might be upstaged by the younger stud. We'll have the opportunity to decide which of the two has the greatest upside, and then we can afford to trade a relatively quality PMD to a team who desperately needs it.

That's quality asset management, right there.
MB, don't let us down...(which he wont )

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UH, 1 inch taller and 2 years younger with a similar performance in a much better league is, well, not Diaz...
It's close. I had forgotten that the SEL is better than the Swiss A. For that reason, and the fact that he's much younger in general, I am very happy with this signing.

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How many games have you actually seen him play and vs which teams?
I remember 2011 playoffs vs. Boston 1 or 2 dirty goals from the faceoff circle on PPs. Man did that guy have potential. Oh well...it happens.

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And Weber has really diminished in quality, sadly. He had the opportunity of improving and proving he was still a quality PMD. He hasn't.

If Diaz doesn't degrade in quality like Weber, and if Magnus proves himself, either one could be prime trade bait.
I remember last year Franson was on the outs and as this playoff ends for the Leafs he is suddenly their best.

Dman can improve from year to year so I wouldn't write off Weber or Diaz.

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