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05-14-2013, 10:58 AM
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What if St Louis does think about trading Piety but asks for Voracek? That would be a scary proposal. The only thing making me think they would want Couts is they get a play making 2nd line center who has the ability to put the puck in the net.
No way they trade Voracek. Him and Giroux are probably the only two untouchable players on this team. Couts should be a close third to being untouchable because his potential is through the roof, especially if he can improve his skating. I wouldn't be against Philly bringing in a top D with a combination of 11th/Coburn or Mez. There is no saying that the 11th pick will turn out into a solid player. Unless they draft a center then you know he will be good!

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05-14-2013, 11:13 AM
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No way they trade Voracek. Him and Giroux are probably the only two untouchable players on this team. Couts should be a close third to being untouchable because his potential is through the roof, especially if he can improve his skating. I wouldn't be against Philly bringing in a top D with a combination of 11th/Coburn or Mez. There is no saying that the 11th pick will turn out into a solid player. Unless they draft a center then you know he will be good!
I would part with Couts in a heartbeat for Piety. My initial offer would be something like Couts+Coburn+1st(2013). Hopefully the Army would like that offer. They get the top end center in Couts to help with his play making, and Coburn can replace Piety(now I don't mean completely) and the first gives them a top prospect.

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05-14-2013, 11:28 AM
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This idea of St Louis trading Pietrangelo is pure fantasy.

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05-14-2013, 11:39 AM
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This idea of St Louis trading Pietrangelo is pure fantasy.
Along the lines of Nashville in trade talks for Weber and the offer sheet?

I understand it's a long shot, it's always worth checking in and discussing though. We have two months till the draft.

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05-14-2013, 11:40 AM
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This idea of St Louis trading Pietrangelo is pure fantasy.
it is. but its fun.
I would trade Voracek for him btw.

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05-14-2013, 11:43 AM
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Couts+Coburn+1st(2013)

Is not enough for him, the guy will be a Norris finalist for a long time coming, if you want him, regardless if he is a RFA or not, it will cost more.

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Couts+Coburn+1st(2013)

Is not enough for him, the guy will be a Norris finalist for a long time coming, if you want him, regardless if he is a RFA or not, it will cost more.
What do you suggest adding?

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05-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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No way they trade Voracek. Him and Giroux are probably the only two untouchable players on this team. Couts should be a close third to being untouchable because his potential is through the roof, especially if he can improve his skating. I wouldn't be against Philly bringing in a top D with a combination of 11th/Coburn or Mez. There is no saying that the 11th pick will turn out into a solid player. Unless they draft a center then you know he will be good!
Come on. Voracek isn't untouchable over a career year in a strike shortened season. I am not saying the Flyers *should* trade him, but if they were now would be the time to do it when his value likely isn't going to be any higher. He isn't going to continue to score on 17% of his shots. If Voracek gets you Pietrangelo you do it without blinking.

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Come on. Voracek isn't untouchable over a career year in a strike shortened season. I am not saying the Flyers *should* trade him, but if they were now would be the time to do it when his value likely isn't going to be any higher. He isn't going to continue to score on 17% of his shots. If Voracek gets you Pietrangelo you do it without blinking.
Its just I don't see Pietrangelo getting traded at all. You don't give up on those type of players, especially at D where good D-men are at a premium.

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05-14-2013, 11:51 AM
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Its just I don't see Pietrangelo getting trades at all. You don't give up on those type of players, especially at D where good D-men are at a premium.
I don't think he will either. Just saying Voracek shouldn't be an untouchable. He is a good player that had a career year in a shortened season. Not elite IMO.

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What do you suggest adding?

I don't even know, but I can see it being at least one of Read/Laughton/Schenn

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Its just I don't see Pietrangelo getting traded at all. You don't give up on those type of players, especially at D where good D-men are at a premium.
I agree. guys like that just dont get traded.
they get handed insane offersheets

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I don't really see the comparison, to be honest. Yandle is an excellent skater.

Pulock seems more like an early Mike Green type.
I wish, Green not only has agreat shot but before the hip issues could really really skate and is a great puckhandler.

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05-14-2013, 12:01 PM
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I don't even know, but I can see it being at least one of Read/Laughton/Schenn
If we are trading 4 pieces(3 from the roster) we would need something else coming back. Not saying that something has to be significant, but we would.

We couldn't do

Couts+Read+Coburn+1st

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Pietrangelo.

That beats Hall of Famer Prongers deal.

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We dont really need a goalie prospect though.
We dont need goalie prospects!?!?!? I want some of whatever you are smokin.

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05-14-2013, 12:01 PM
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Well we don't have any attractive prospects so All we have are picks and roster players.

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I like Pietrangelo. But I dont know if i would pay the price to aquire him. I think id rather pay slightly less and get Jones.

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05-14-2013, 12:26 PM
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If we are trading 4 pieces(3 from the roster) we would need something else coming back. Not saying that something has to be significant, but we would.

We couldn't do

Couts+Read+Coburn+1st

for

Pietrangelo.

That beats Hall of Famer Prongers deal.
Pietro wouldn't be 34 when we traded for him though.

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05-14-2013, 12:55 PM
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We dont need goalie prospects!?!?!? I want some of whatever you are smokin.
You want an average goalie prospect? If so i might need to give you what im smoking to make u more sane. We have an average goalie prospect in Heeter.

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05-14-2013, 12:56 PM
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I like Pietrangelo. But I dont know if i would pay the price to aquire him. I think id rather pay slightly less and get Jones.
Agree with you on Pietrangelo. They just acquired JBo so it doubtful that he is being moved. That leaves Shattenkirk as a legitimate target. Would Coburn, Read and a #2 get it done?

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05-14-2013, 12:59 PM
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Agree with you on Pietrangelo. They just acquired JBo so it doubtful that he is being moved. That leaves Shattenkirk as a legitimate target. Would Coburn, Read and a #2 get it done?
I don't think there's a need for them to move Shattenkirk unless we were to offersheet him like $6M a year.

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Any interest in J-M Liles? He could probably be gotten for next to nothing and has 3 years @ $3.8 mil left. Alternatively, a few on the T&S board were suggesting he might be a buyout candidate. I'm not high on him overall, but he's got offensive skills and if he were a buyout, it might be very intriguing.

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Edit: more appropriately, an older version of Matt Carle.

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Ryan pulock reminds me a lot of yandle. I don't want pulock and i dont want yandle. Those type of dmen put up points but dont win you games. Plus none of them are very mobile. We need a mobile defense-man similar to a kris letang, drew dougty, or Del Zotto.
Not sure what you are looking at, but I couldn't disagree more. Yandle is very mobile and a very good skater. Pulock is pretty darn mobile himself and owns an NHL caliber shot. These are the types of players a team can really use as part of a defensive corps, to help them win games. Take Timonen out of the picture (after next season) and the Flyers D corps is severely lacking in offensive ability from the back end guys. That would be a disadvantage compared to most of the better teams in the NHL.

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It would cost more than Couturier or Schenn and a 3rd or Gost for Yandle. That's why no one wants him.

Yep, this is my only issue as well...the cost. But some people are underrating Yandle's abilities irrespective of the cost imo.

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