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05-15-2013, 04:54 PM
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He's a play making center... something the Leafs might have in Kadri, but do not have anywhere else. That said, as much as I think Phanuef is overrated (to an extent), the Leafs need him right now.
The Leafs were 6th in scoring this year and Gagner doesn't do much other than provide offense. The Leafs could use another defensive centre more than they need a player like Gagner.

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05-15-2013, 05:07 PM
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D, L. Smid.
EDM 2013 1st Round
The Oilers would be nuts to give up their 1st overall.

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Our weakest area this season was our defense and you think trading away the guy who was our best Dman by a huge margin is the best way to improve our team?

With out Dion this year we dont make the playoffs at all. Other Leaf fans drive me nuts.


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From the Flames:

Matt Stajan (similar aged #2 centre)
Anton Babchuk (PP specialist and potential 2nd pairing d-man)
you can't lie to us. We know all about stajan

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05-15-2013, 06:15 PM
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Diaz+Gorges+DD maybe a 2nd... As if we ever make trades together :p but I'd love him to be PKs sidekick

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05-15-2013, 06:18 PM
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No, Edmonton does NOT offer that. Phaneuf has one year left ffs.
I'm just trying to spark something lol. If you have a better deal that both sides could agree on, put 'er on the board.

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05-15-2013, 06:20 PM
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No, Edmonton does NOT offer that. Phaneuf has one year left ffs.
Not speaking of the value in the trade but seeing as how Dion is from Edmonton you have to think they wouldn't have too much trouble resigning him.

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05-15-2013, 06:26 PM
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As much as I like Phaneuf as a player, I like this deal a bit more.
Edmonton isn't going to trade away a guy they just signed in Smid.

Their 1st may be in play, But they're not going to offer unless they get Phaneuf signed.


Then you look at it from our angle, Who replaces Phaneuf's minutes? People can hate all they want(cause some Leaf fans have nothing better to do) But he was important part of getting this team into the playoffs. Having said that he's going into the last year of his deal and all option should be considered until he signs a new deal.

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05-15-2013, 06:45 PM
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Diaz+Gorges+DD maybe a 2nd... As if we ever make trades together :p but I'd love him to be PKs sidekick
The would get the most "Unsportsmanlike Conduct - Diving" penalties in the history of the NHL.

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05-15-2013, 07:05 PM
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David Jones and Greg Zanon. Jones is a capable of scoring 30+ goals and Zanon is an elite shot blocker. Really fits the holes in your team.

Wait there is more!

Then maybe Stastny + 3rd 2014 if Stastny signs with the leafs for JVR and Morgan Reilly? Stastny fills the 1st line hole the leafs drastically need.

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David Jones and Greg Zanon. Jones is a capable of scoring 30+ goals and Zanon is an elite shot blocker. Really fits the holes in your team.

Wait there is more!

Then maybe Stastny + 3rd 2014 if Stastny signs with the leafs for JVR and Morgan Reilly? Stastny fills the 1st line hole the leafs drastically need.
No to both....

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05-15-2013, 08:13 PM
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Without Phaneuf...


Gardiner - Gunnarson
Fraser - Franson
ROB - Liles/Kostka/Holzer


Yeah.... We kind of need a second guy who can eat minutes like Phaneuf not to trade him...

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Only good offer is the Edmonton one 1st+Smid.

However even though the value is there, we just can't make the trade. I'd love Monahan though. Phaneuf can't be traded he eats minutes like a beast.

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05-15-2013, 08:28 PM
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Our weakest area this season was our defense and you think trading away the guy who was our best Dman by a huge margin is the best way to improve our team?

With out Dion this year we dont make the playoffs at all. Other Leaf fans drive me nuts.
Would have had Lupul for another 25 games though so more than likely we still make the playoffs without Mr high and wide.

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Would have had Lupul for another 25 games though so more than likely we still make the playoffs without Mr high and wide.
No we would have missed. Our D would have been terrible also making our goaltending worse.

Dion Phaneuf played the hardest mins in the league last year. Who would have replaced those mins?

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David Jones and Greg Zanon. Jones is a capable of scoring 30+ goals and Zanon is an elite shot blocker. Really fits the holes in your team.

Wait there is more!

Then maybe Stastny + 3rd 2014 if Stastny signs with the leafs for JVR and Morgan Reilly? Stastny fills the 1st line hole the leafs drastically need.
Wow, u have got to be kidding. Colorado would give David Jones away for nothing, they tried at the trade deadline with no takers, thanks to his contract. So Zanon for Phaneuf Come on now

AND

JVR alone is worth more than Stastny. If this was 4 years ago, then maybe Stastny has more value but not now after 3 down seasons. AND you want our top prospect and future franchise defenceman? Give ur head a shake

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Stastny for Phaneuf makes some sense, both have a year left, similar contracts and fill the biggest needs for both teams.

It does leave Toronto with a hole in defence though, so Colorado would probably have to add a D-man.

Stastny and Ryan Wilson for Phaneuf and McClemment?
Mcclement may be our most valuable player outside of the obvious guys. Led the league among forwards in PK minutes and was one of the main reasons the Leafs had the second or third best PK this season. I'd be shocked if he were dealt for anything less than a massive overpayment.

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05-16-2013, 12:40 AM
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Matt Stajan (similar aged #2 centre)
Anton Babchuk (PP specialist and potential 2nd pairing d-man)
Pass. I would rather have Stajan, at least he is a team player.

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05-16-2013, 01:03 AM
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Without Phaneuf...


Gardiner - Gunnarson
Fraser - Franson
ROB - Liles/Kostka/Holzer


Yeah.... We kind of need a second guy who can eat minutes like Phaneuf not to trade him...
Stop it now! Good god that defense line up would get destroyed.

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Mcclement may be our most valuable player outside of the obvious guys. Led the league among forwards in PK minutes and was one of the main reasons the Leafs had the second or third best PK this season. I'd be shocked if he were dealt for anything less than a massive overpayment.
False, he led the league among ALL players

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...Name=timeOnIce

Only non-defenseman in the top 20.

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Kevin Bieksa + Roy's UFA rights.
Where do I sign up.

Similar type of player (high risk-high reward) but a right defenseman and with a cap hit of only 4.5 compared to 6mm.

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05-16-2013, 10:18 AM
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I think with Smid, Toronto would have a pretty sound Defensive corp, sixth in blocked shots in the NHL and has been getting better with every passing year. But the best part was the 1st rounder. You could draft either Pulock, Nurse, Monahan, Ristolainen or Hunter Shinkaruk (who, by the way, I always pictured donning a Toronto jersey lol). The trade will help both now, and in the long run.

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05-16-2013, 10:26 AM
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Keep Gagner away from the Leafs. He's redundant.
Keep Phaneuf away from the Oilers. He's retarded.

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Keep Phaneuf away from the Oilers. He's retarded.
Nice overreaction. Doesn't change the fact that the Leafs don't need Gagner. Meanwhile, the Oilers could actually use Phaneuf.

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Not speaking of the value in the trade but seeing as how Dion is from Edmonton you have to think they wouldn't have too much trouble resigning him.
That's never really helped us out in the past. Edmonton region boys who have failed in Edmonton include "Wonderboy" Joffrey Lupul, "Mrs. Duff" Mike Comrie and Sheldon "Injured Again?" Souray. All left on bad terms. Being from Edmonton means little unfortunately.

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Nice overreaction. Doesn't change the fact that the Leafs don't need Gagner. Meanwhile, the Oilers could actually use Phaneuf.
Not really an overreaction. Phaneuf has made a career out of making highlight reel level plays...some amazing hits and booming shots, others being blown coverage and stupid decisions. Million dollar skill set, nickel brain.

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