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05-15-2013, 08:49 AM
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Yikes! Well atleast it happened at the end of the year and he'll have plenty if time to heal up before training camp.
Unfortunately, it's going to affect his off season training and preparation for next year.

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Just FYI:

Niederberger signed with EHC Munich (where Wheeler played last season). For those interested in maybe signing him.

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Just FYI:

Niederberger signed with EHC Munich (where Wheeler played last season). For those interested in maybe signing him.
Excellent news for him!

Hopefully he can string some games together there and get another look back in NA.

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05-15-2013, 09:44 AM
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Unfortunately, it's going to affect his off season training and preparation for next year.
I don't think it will effect it that much. The collar bone should be healed up by mid to end of June. At most it will cost him about 2-3 weeks of training IMO as I'm sure the Jets would have instructed him to take a good 2-3 weeks off after the season again anyways.

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I don't think it will effect it that much. The collar bone should be healed up by mid to end of June. At most it will cost him about 2-3 weeks of training IMO as I'm sure the Jets would have instructed him to take a good 2-3 weeks off after the season again anyways.
The concussion is the worrisome part for delaying training/workouts. Completely unpredictable.


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The concussion is the worrisome pare for delaying training/workouts. Completely unpredictable.
True, let's hope its a mild one and he's good in a week or so.

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True, let's hope its a mild one and he's good in a week or so.
Agree, surixon.

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I don't think it will effect it that much. The collar bone should be healed up by mid to end of June. At most it will cost him about 2-3 weeks of training IMO as I'm sure the Jets would have instructed him to take a good 2-3 weeks off after the season again anyways.
you're the optimist. i assume they'll do surgery. not sure if they'll wait until the concussion symptoms subside before surgery. if they plate him, i'd suggest that it is 6-8 months. so, likely, mid-July, since i don't think he's gone under the knife as of yet.

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you're the optimist. i assume they'll do surgery. not sure if they'll wait until the concussion symptoms subside before surgery. if they plate him, i'd suggest that it is 6-8 months. so, likely, mid-July, since i don't think he's gone under the knife as of yet.
Why would they opt for surgery for a broken collarbone?

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Why would they opt for surgery for a broken collarbone?
your options:

-surgery
-let it heal on its own
-figure 8 splint

no consensus on how to mend a collarbone. depending on the severity of the fracture (i.e. minor fracture vs a displaced fracture) then I can see how option 2 is the best. if it is displaced, then i'd assume that, since he's a professional athlete playing a contact sport, they'd opt to plate it.

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your options:

-surgery
-let it heal on its own
-figure 8 splint

no consensus on how to mend a collarbone. depending on the severity of the fracture (i.e. minor fracture vs a displaced fracture) then I can see how option 2 is the best. if it is displaced, then i'd assume that, since he's a professional athlete playing a contact sport, they'd opt to plate it.
I've broken mine 3 times and have never heard of surgery as an option. It healed independently on its own each time. I highly doubt that surgery is even considered unless there is legiment damage as well.

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I've broken mine 3 times and have never heard of surgery as an option. It healed independently on its own each time. I highly doubt that surgery is even considered unless there is legiment damage as well.
Same collarbone three times? Don't want that happening to a highly paid athlete.

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Same collarbone three times? Don't want that happening to a highly paid athlete.
Yup! True, he'll just have to really work on strengthening his shoulders to make him less susceptible for re-injury.

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I've broken mine 3 times and have never heard of surgery as an option. It healed independently on its own each time. I highly doubt that surgery is even considered unless there is legiment damage as well.
We had a guy on our hockey team break his collar bone this year, and he had surgery the next day.

He and the doctors thought it was the best option as I think they thought it would heal better. (Don't quote me on that).

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We had a guy on our hockey team break his collar bone this year, and he had surgery the next day.

He and the doctors thought it was the best option as I think they thought it would heal better. (Don't quote me on that).
Interesting, I guess I didn't break mine severe enough for it to be an option. I still don't see the Jets/Scheifele opting for surgery unless its the only option. Granted every case is different but we didn't see surgery for Enstrom when he suffered a similar injury last year.

While pure conjecture on my part;Scheifele's end of the year quotes don't really lead me to believe that he will be out for a long time. He seems set on making the team next year.

http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/201...d-to-next-year

Either way we should find our shortly!

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We had a guy on our hockey team break his collar bone this year, and he had surgery the next day.

He and the doctors thought it was the best option as I think they thought it would heal better. (Don't quote me on that).
In fairness though, the guy on our team shattered it in 5 places.

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Sad to hear Scheifele has a concussion.

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05-15-2013, 06:26 PM
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4 weeks for sure for the collar bone and he can still do cardio depending on his concussion, and this will affect his training, it may be minimal or it may be more than we think. All I know is that he is good enough to make our team next year, either as the #2 or 3 centre so even with only 2 months training I think he will be fine and will make our squad.

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I've broken mine 3 times and have never heard of surgery as an option. It healed independently on its own each time. I highly doubt that surgery is even considered unless there is legiment damage as well.
think you just answered the question as to why surgery's a likely option for him

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We had a guy on our hockey team break his collar bone this year, and he had surgery the next day.

He and the doctors thought it was the best option as I think they thought it would heal better. (Don't quote me on that).
my background comes from 2 things:

1. broke mine 9 years ago while biking and i was asked to enroll in a study on best treatment/outcomes for clavicle fractures (surgery or letting it heal on its own). I declined the study.
2. I'm a pharmacist who works in a medical clinic and I provide fracture support/braces for clavicles/ankles/knees/wrists/etc

there's still no consensus on the best treatment for a clavicle fracture. i'd assume that for hockey players, you're looking at plating as an option so that a) you have a faster recovery b) you have a stronger fracture site, preventing the athlete from fracturing his clavicle repeatedly (i.e. "three times" hahaa). most fractures take 4-6 weeks to heal without surgery. even with surgery, you're looking at a minimum of 4 weeks. then, after that, he could participate in non-contact drills BUT if he fell/tripped/lost an edge and went into the boards? you have a risk of refracturing the bone.

someone said something about building up the muscles to make it stronger. that's totally false. the clavicle is probably the easiest bone to fracture. there is ZERO muscle protecting it. it just sits there, like a piece of wood between 2 cinder blocks, waiting for a karate chop to snap it. touch your clavicle. no amount of pectoral or deltoit muscle mass will prevent an impact fracture. you get hit in the wrong spot at the wrong angle and you'll break it. that's why guys like me, who flip over a mountain bike and land hard on their shoulder, will fracture it. the force of impact will break it. that's why Toby Enstrom broke his by being body checked.

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Interesting, I guess I didn't break mine severe enough for it to be an option. I still don't see the Jets/Scheifele opting for surgery unless its the only option. Granted every case is different but we didn't see surgery for Enstrom when he suffered a similar injury last year.

While pure conjecture on my part;Scheifele's end of the year quotes don't really lead me to believe that he will be out for a long time. He seems set on making the team next year.

http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/201...d-to-next-year

Either way we should find our shortly!
Am I missing something? Sounds like he has a concussion, but no mention of a collarbone fracture.

Is that reported elsewhere?

Edit: Webster had a broken collarbone but didn't see anything about Scheifele and a broken collarbone.


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Am I missing something? Sounds like he has a concussion, but no mention of a collarbone fracture.

Is that reported elsewhere?

Edit: Webster had a broken collarbone but didn't see anything about Scheifele and a broken collarbone.
In the FP this morning Ducky only mentions a minor concussion for Scheifele so I'm having doubts that he even has a brocken collar bone. Apparently a defence man on Barrie suffered one though which might be causing the confusion.

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In fairness though, the guy on our team shattered it in 5 places.
That's true. He did get a nice care package from the team though....

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Trouba looked looked great today in the USA rout of Russia

PP goal and sat a couple dudes down

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Trouba looked looked great today in the USA rout of Russia

PP goal and sat a couple dudes down
Excellent!

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