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05-08-2013, 09:02 AM
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Kronwall, Lundqvist and Persson as the set captains. "We're building around this trio".


I dont know what's happened to Mårts, maybe he better go see a doctor to get something for it whatever it is.

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05-08-2013, 03:47 PM
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Or Magnus Johansson

or elias fälth.

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Sedin Sedin Zetterberg
Steen Berglund Axelsson
Eriksson Bäckström Hörnqvist
Persson Lundqvist Landeskog
Lindberg

OEL Hedman
Hjalmarsson Karlsson
Kronwall Kronwall
Edler

Lundqvist Enroth Markström

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05-09-2013, 07:18 AM
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I dont know what's happened to Mårts, maybe he better go see a doctor to get something for it whatever it is.
Lundqvist and especially Kronwall have been good. Persson would benefit from being fourth liner defense first guy. Three guys for Sotji!!! Are you really swedish?

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Very impressed with Zibanejad!
Man, Zibanejad is just a damn good hockey player. In all ways.

Skating, shooting, hitting, defensive awareness, faceoffs...and he has a good head on his shoulders as well.

Im saying he should be the 3rd line center, no doubt.

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05-09-2013, 08:16 AM
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Lundqvist and especially Kronwall have been good. Persson would benefit from being fourth liner defense first guy. Three guys for Sotji!!! Are you really swedish?
Dude, what are you smoking? Sometimes it's between the lines one need to look to see what someone is commenting on.

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05-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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Dude, what are you smoking? Sometimes it's between the lines one need to look to see what someone is commenting on.
Oh no, not the smoking card, please!

Grades:

Thörnberg: E
Danielsson: E
Järnkrok: D
Jämtin: D
Persson: C-D
Pettersson: C
Hjalmarsson: C
Lindberg: C
Ericsson: C
Lundqvist: C
Eriksson: C
Landeskog: B
Axelsson: B

Fälth: D
Tallinder: C
Fransson: C
Gustafsson: C
Granberg: C
Kronwall: B-c

Enroth: C
Markström: C

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Oh no, not the smoking card, please!

Grades:

Thörnberg: E
Danielsson: E
Järnkrok: D
Jämtin: D
Persson: C-D
Pettersson: C
Hjalmarsson: C
Lindberg: C
Ericsson: C
Lundqvist: C
Eriksson: C
Landeskog: B
Axelsson: B

Fälth: D
Tallinder: C
Fransson: C
Gustafsson: C
Granberg: C
Kronwall: B-c

Enroth: C
Markström: C
Eriksson is the best player on this team and it's not even close. Landeskog is second, the rest are a clear step behind those. Persson should be nowhere near the olympic team, he's a third liner in the KHL. I wouldn't even select him for this WC, and he has not exactly played well either.

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05-09-2013, 01:54 PM
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Eriksson is the best player on this team and it's not even close. Landeskog is second, the rest are a clear step behind those. Persson should be nowhere near the olympic team, he's a third liner in the KHL. I wouldn't even select him for this WC, and he has not exactly played well either.
The time to prepare for big ice is narrow, that's why my selection includes a few european players. If Persson only has one thing to care about, defensive play and box play, he's quite good. Thörnberg is playing his way out of the Sotji team.

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05-09-2013, 02:29 PM
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Oh no, not the smoking card, please!
Mårts was'nt talking about the olympics when he said Staffan Kronwall, Joel Lundqvist and Niklas Persson was the players he wanted to build around. What i commented was meant to say that Mårts is a bum to build around these even for the WC.

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05-09-2013, 05:10 PM
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Well okey, i end by saying it does'nt matter who makes the team as long as it's not Zibanejad and Silfverberg, if they dont get even better than now, and proven during a substantial number of games as well.
This is big ice though, and Lundqvist is in his prime. I dont know if he'll get picked, the team can just as well go with Sedin, Zetterberg, Bäckström and Steen as the centers, that obviously looks like the preferable depth chart right there, but i believe we need Zetterberg on the wing, and in that case we need a new fourth center.
Steen is awesome and should be on the olympic roster, however not as a center.

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05-15-2013, 07:33 AM
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Regarding non-NHL players in Olympics. 06 we had Hannula, R.Sundin and S.Liv (rip), J.Jönsson and K.Jönsson. 10 it was Johansson, Weinhandl and Forsberg.


Staffan Kronwall, Martin Thörnberg, Niklas Persson and Joel Lundqvist have showed in this WCH that they are not OG-material. Jimmie Ericsson and Fredrik Pettersson on the other hand would be good options as checkers or extras.


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05-15-2013, 08:58 AM
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I want some serious skating ability on the fourth line. All of our best forwards are average skaters, the overall lack of speed on this team could become an issue. This was perhaps the main problem last Olympics. I don't want any "tröga spelare" on the bottom lines.

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05-15-2013, 12:04 PM
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The one think we should feel lucky about is our centers.
Zetterberg, Sedin, Bäckström are all top 15 centers in the world, and i feel that whatever team we build around them will preform good, especially with the unreal defense we have.
If Lundqvist plays as he always dose, then I'll see us in a semi final agains Canada/Russia/USA, at that point anything can happen.

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05-15-2013, 12:45 PM
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If Lundqvist plays as he always does
2006 he only needed to play above average in two games... One of them being the final..

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Wow, our team is actually more stacked than I would've considered before trying to write up a roster. Plenty has happened since this past season. Landeskog has had a sophomore year, while especially the guys in Ottawa have developed alot. Plenty of players left out that I would've wanted in there. Alfredsson'll probably retire, so he isn't on the list. A couple of guys have played themselves into the roster this season, if they can keep it up, this will be very interesting about 9 months from now.

Forwards
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Zetterberg Bäckström Franzén
Steen Berglund Stålberg
Hagelin Zibanejad Landeskog
Johansson
Reserves: Hörnqvist, Silfverberg, Backlund

Comments: Not exactly written in stone, but these are the names to juggle around with as I see it. Eriksson and Bäckström showed great chemistry before, but it's not like the Sedins aren't skilled enough to play with Eriksson either. Some blazing speed and a hard worker brought into the lineup in the form of Hagelin, who'll be invaluable at big ice. Zibanejad has some speed as well. All lines know the two-way game very well and I see no real weaknesses. These guys can play against the best.

Defense
Kronwall Karlsson
OEL Edler
Hjalmarsson Hedman
Enström
Reserves: Strålman, Gunnarsson, Brodin, Murray, Larsson (soo many...)

Comments: The defense is stacked to the teeth. The thought is to let especially Karlsson, but also OEL roam a little bit, while Edler and Kronwall provide some defensive awareness. These pairings aren't exactly set in stone, they are all very good defensemen. Murray would've been a good choice on small ice, the choice is unclear on big ice.

Goaltending
Lundqvist Fasth Enroth
Reserves: Lindbäck, Markström, Lehner

Comments: Not much to say here as Lundqvist is the obvious starting goaltender. I think Fasth has looked impressive enough to snag the spot as backup, while Enroth grabs the 3rd.

A very solid team on paper with great potential. If they can get their momentum going, this team can win any game against any team.


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Markstrom should be there and groomed as the NEXT ONE behind King Henrik...if not big mistake down the line. Those other names outside of Lehner are just fillers and will be no namers in 10-15 years.

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Markstrom should be there and groomed as the NEXT ONE behind King Henrik...if not big mistake down the line. Those other names outside of Lehner are just fillers and will be no namers in 10-15 years.
All depends on the upcoming half of the next season. If Markström plays well, sure, he'll absolutely have a good shot being one of the goaltenders behind Lundqvist, especially if he establishes himself as the clear #1 goalie for the Panthers, as all others he competes with are backups. This roster is based on the present, where I believe Fasth and Enroth are better goaltenders than Markström. You do have a point it would be wise to at least give the 3rd goalie spot to a young, developing goalie like Markström for the experience. It's all up to Markström to prove he's the backup.


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as all others he competes with are backups.
Who will take Lindbäck's starter position away? Bishop or Garon?

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Who will take Lindbäck's starter position away? Bishop or Garon?
Who cares about Lindbäck?

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Regarding non-NHL players in Olympics. 06 we had Hannula, R.Sundin and S.Liv (rip), J.Jönsson and K.Jönsson. 10 it was Johansson, Weinhandl and Forsberg.


Staffan Kronwall, Martin Thörnberg, Niklas Persson and Joel Lundqvist have showed in this WCH that they are not OG-material. Jimmie Ericsson and Fredrik Pettersson on the other hand would be good options as checkers or extras.
What happend with that dude? He's not that old, same age as Zetterberg...

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I want some serious skating ability on the fourth line. All of our best forwards are average skaters, the overall lack of speed on this team could become an issue. This was perhaps the main problem last Olympics. I don't want any "tröga spelare" on the bottom lines.
How about Carl Hagelin? While small in stature, he is one of the fastest skaters in the NHL and playing for the Rangers does know how to effectively forecheck. Can also kill penalties.

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How about Carl Hagelin? While small in stature, he is one of the fastest skaters in the NHL and playing for the Rangers does know how to effectively forecheck. Can also kill penalties.
I like Hagelin because he can jump up in a top9 role too. But wingers will be in tough for spots.

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I love Hagelins play style, combine him with Zibby and Stålberg and we got a FAST checking line that can score thous gritty goals.

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We had a pretty slow team in 2010. The pluses are for speed/mobility.



Enström ++++
Johansson ++
N. Kronwall +++
Lidström ++
Murray ++
Oduya +++++
Tallinder +++
Öhlund +

Alfredsson ++
Bäckström ++
Eriksson ++++
Forsberg +
Franzén ++
Hörnqvist ++
Modin ++
Påhlsson ++
Sedin ++
Sedin ++
Weinhandl +++
Zetterberg ++


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