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05-16-2013, 01:13 PM
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Brooks Orpik is what he is...you don't have to apologize for him. I am sure he is proud of his style of hockey, he learnt from the best, a certain guy on your team. He is nothing like Kronwall. Kronwall doesn't act tough, he just hits people.

Little Cory Conacher? Come on now...

You guys have 1 bear.
You realise Orpik was on this team since 2003, Cooke didn't get here till 2008. Kronwall is much more of a spot picker than Orpik, Kronwall mostly goes for big hits when a guy's head down and he's exiting the zone. Orpik actually hits people all the time and I don't see why that means he has to drop the gloves with a much better fighter in Neil. Does that mean that Neil should fight Big Mac just because he asked him to?

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Easiest way to beat the Pens is to spend the entire game in their zone. The more time spent outside of their zone, the lower your chances are for victory.

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It just needs one troll that comments on a GIF from a few pages ago to start this crap again. Just don't feed it and we can maybe keep talking hockey.

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Similar to Cooke good old Orpik loves the stick work, cross checks, facewashes, chirping etc... however when it's time to pay the price they both absolutely refuse to drop the gloves....complete cowards if you ask me, probably the saddest type of player in the sport really and no matter what team they play for i hate this player....glad ruutu and anyone of his ilk are gone from the Sens for this exact reason!
False, Cooke will drop when it's needed. There was nothing to answer for when he sliced the heel.

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Bleh, still another day to go.

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Easiest way to beat the Pens is to spend the entire game in their zone. The more time spent outside of their zone, the lower your chances are for victory.
Yeah but how do you do that? By hitting Orpik? That was not why you guys gave us fits. It was because the Islanders outcoached Bylsma and took away the passing lanes for those stretch passes, and had the speed to go the other way. Then you outworked the Pens, and out speeded them, to the loose pucks in the offensive zone. Did hitting have anything at all to do with the Islander success in that series?

That is why all this talk of having to hit the Pens as the secret weapon to beat the Pens is puzzling to me.

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You realise Orpik was on this team since 2003, Cooke didn't get here till 2008. Kronwall is much more of a spot picker than Orpik, Kronwall mostly goes for big hits when a guy's head down and he's exiting the zone. Orpik actually hits people all the time and I don't see why that means he has to drop the gloves with a much better fighter in Neil. Does that mean that Neil should fight Big Mac just because he asked him to?
We all saw what happened last time Big Mac stood infront of Neil. Tail right between the legs. It should be Crosby fighting Neil after all!

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Similar to Cooke good old Orpik loves the stick work, cross checks, facewashes, chirping etc... however when it's time to pay the price they both absolutely refuse to drop the gloves....complete cowards if you ask me, probably the saddest type of player in the sport really and no matter what team they play for i hate this player....glad ruutu and anyone of his ilk are gone from the Sens for this exact reason!
Wonder if this happened before or after Neil punched Crosby in the jaw.

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Similar to Cooke good old Orpik loves the stick work, cross checks, facewashes, chirping etc... however when it's time to pay the price they both absolutely refuse to drop the gloves....complete cowards if you ask me, probably the saddest type of player in the sport really and no matter what team they play for i hate this player....glad ruutu and anyone of his ilk are gone from the Sens for this exact reason!

Funny. When Steve MacIntyre challenged Chris Neil, it looked like Chris Neil was going to **** his pants.


Chris Neil picks his spots occasionally.

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05-16-2013, 01:24 PM
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This thread has turned into Penguins fans telling you why NOTHING will work against their team. At least it's entertaining. Something to read on the off days.

They're bigger, better, faster, stronger.

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Yeah but how do you do that? By hitting Orpik? That was not why you guys gave us fits. It was because the Islanders outcoached Bylsma and took away the passing lanes for those stretch passes, and had the speed to go the other way. Then you outworked the Pens, and out speeded them, to the loose pucks in the offensive zone. Did hitting have anything at all to do with the Islander success in that series?

That is why all this talk of having to hit the Pens as the secret weapon to beat the Pens is puzzling to me.
The isles did NOT "out coach Byslma". 1: It's up to the players to execuet, it's not Dans fault Letang or Geno will make retarded passes. Yea he could sit them but then that could backfire. 2: He made big adjustments mid series and closed it out. Oh wait I guess he read HFB and learned what to do with the lines...silly Dan!

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Yeah but how do you do that? By hitting Orpik? That was not why you guys gave us fits. It was because the Islanders outcoached Bylsma and took away the passing lanes for those stretch passes, and had the speed to go the other way. Then you outworked the Pens, and out speeded them, to the loose pucks in the offensive zone. Did hitting have anything at all to do with the Islander success in that series?

That is why all this talk of having to hit the Pens as the secret weapon to beat the Pens is puzzling to me.
I never said hitting had anything do with it.

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This thread has turned into Penguins fans telling you why NOTHING will work against their team. At least it's entertaining. Something to read on the off days.

They're bigger, better, faster, stronger.
pretty sure they have better hair to.

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Its amazing to think that Malkin dominated in 2009 playing with Max Talbot and Ruslan Fedetenko. Now hes got James Neal and Jarome Iginla. Yikes...

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This thread has turned into Penguins fans telling you why NOTHING will work against their team. At least it's entertaining. Something to read on the off days.

They're bigger, better, faster, stronger.
1. Injure Vokoun

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pretty sure they have better hair to.
They do.

We have Alfie's hair, which is bringing everyone else down.

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This thread has turned into Penguins fans telling you why NOTHING will work against their team. At least it's entertaining. Something to read on the off days.

They're bigger, better, faster, stronger.
Actually, outside an well trained trapping team, speed and perhaps a good forecheck is the only thing that seems to work against the Pens when the goalie isn't gifting goals.

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I never said hitting had anything do with it.
I wasn't responding to you per se.

I just keep hearing about how the key to undermining the Pens is hitting. There were lessons to take from the Islander series, and I am sure that Ottawa, who has a great coach, will take those lessons and use them. But hitting has zero to do with it. Just not the kryptonite for a team built like the Pens are built. But the Islanders did expose how to beat them, and I am certain every team that they play until they are knocked out will employ some of those things.

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Only one of those is a penalty.

Cooke has 13 fights to his name; Orpik has fought 8 times. Are they enforcers? No, but that's not their job. There's also no reason to pretend like Neil was a saint there either. Both of them acted foolish, and they both deserved matching minors.
Well technically they all could be, (slashing, misconduct for using a racist term, hit to head/fight)No doubt they were both at fault i just get tired of the fake tough guys....don't bother acting like one or do something when the time to be a tough guys presents itself

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Its amazing to think that Malkin dominated in 2009 playing with Max Talbot and Ruslan Fedetenko. Now hes got James Neal and Jarome Iginla. Yikes...
Too bad he has a bum shoulder, this could've been simply magic

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This thread has turned into Penguins fans telling you why NOTHING will work against their team. At least it's entertaining. Something to read on the off days.

They're bigger, better, faster, stronger.
Huh? I said very specifically what the Pens are vulnerable to. It just is not hitting. I actually picked the Senators to win the series in 7 if you look up, and have called the Pens the underdogs. I am going to stick with that assessment at least for now. Let's see how game 2 goes. The Pens dominated the Islanders in game 1 as well, but after that the Islanders outplayed the Pens for most of their series. So one more good game one is not enough for me to move my opinion yet.

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Funny. When Steve MacIntyre challenged Chris Neil, it looked like Chris Neil was going to **** his pants.


Chris Neil picks his spots occasionally.
I love how Sens fans all ignore posts on Neil backing down form MacIntyre. What a joke of a tough guy Neil is. He backed away last game from Murray as well, but he dang sure will go with Joe Vitale!!LOL Pathetic

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I love how Sens fans all ignore posts on Neil backing down form MacIntyre. What a joke of a tough guy Neil is. He backed away last game from Murray as well, but he dang sure will go with Joe Vitale!!LOL Pathetic
Yes, yes, Neil never fights fighters. You're absolutely correct. We all bow down to the toughness of the Pens team.

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Huh? I said very specifically what the Pens are vulnerable to. It just is not hitting. I actually picked the Senators to win the series in 7 if you look up, and have called the Pens the underdogs. I am going to stick with that assessment at least for now. Let's see how game 2 goes. The Pens dominated the Islanders in game 1 as well, but after that the Islanders outplayed the Pens for most of their series. So one more good game one is not enough for me to move my opinion yet.
I can't take anyone seriously who honestly believes the Pens are the underdogs in a series like this.

Sorry.

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