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05-17-2013, 06:07 AM
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Hank coughed up some soft goals but frankly, if they don't figure out this PP, they won't win the Cup anyway. It's like watching a bunch of circus clowns out there for 2 mins.

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05-17-2013, 06:14 AM
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I wish that posts that blame refs for losses could automatically be rejected by the server because they are wrong 99% of the time.

Blaming Hank for that loss is funny. Some of you guys who sit on the couch don't understand that when you face that many shots, occasionally some will go in.

The Bruins were much the better team in Game 1. The metal behind Hank played awesome.

Those of you crying that the Rangers are doomed after losing Game 1 on the road in OT should be banned from watching any more games.

I hate when people write that they will no longer watch the games or overtimes and then post after the next game.

They lost a game. Get a grip.
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05-17-2013, 06:22 AM
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Thanks for making my point.
You are giving the offense a pass.
I'm not giving the offense a pass, but the defense played well enough to win even while scoring 2 goals with a goalie of Hank's talents. Hank SHOULD get more scrutiny than than anyone. Par for the course when you're the best player on the team and on of the best in the league.

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05-17-2013, 06:25 AM
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Richards is garbage,that's all I have to say. Wtf is his deal. I loved the signing at first.

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05-17-2013, 06:29 AM
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I'm really getting tired of losing in OT, LOL.

The Bruins were the better team. Watching OT, I think the writing was on the wall. We were either going to get a lucky bounce and steal one, or, more likely, succumb to their pressure. The end result was basically a foregone conclusion.

That said, we didn't play terribly. I saw enough out of the boys last night to maintain my confidence that we can win this series. Come out strong next game, win one in Boston, and we're in good shape.

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05-17-2013, 06:32 AM
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What if it doesn't?
I believe his point his that we don't know and it's silly to go so overboard with the criticism as many have done I've seen one person say " Worst PO performer of all time". Can we say he's underperforming, not scoring, not doing what we need him to do in order to win? Yes. But to guarantee his future in the PO's when he could pssibly be injured or something or hell just having a bad PO isn't right.

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05-17-2013, 06:36 AM
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The NHL median in GF/G is 2.62.

The worst goal scoring team had 2.27.

2 goals very rarely guarantee victories in today's league.
And Lundqvist in the last 2 years (including playoffs) has had a below 2.00 GAA. Though that is per 60 minutes, but I would be shocked if it wasn't less than 2. Granted, around 2 means that scoring 2 goals will get us only in OT. However it also means that he has had A LOT of games where he has given up fewer than 2 goals. All that is besides the point. I watched the game. Most of the game Boston's offense consisted of harmless bad angle shots (hell even OT). Boston's offensive performance was just as mediocre as our. If we can't win 2-1 with Hank when the other team puts up a bunch of bad angle shots (sure there were a couple of good ones, but hey that happens, this is the NHL), then we won't go far. We'll have to win 2-1, 1-0 games in this series. Rask wasn't very good either. Normally this game would have been 1-0. BTW, you bring up how terrible scoring 2 goals is. How many teams score 3 goals a game? I believe there were like 6 in the whole NHL in the NHL. For 80% of the teams scoring 3 goals in the regular season (when the scoring is easier to come by) is an above average performance. That's in 48 games against a lot of different defenses, the VAST MAJORITY worse than Boston's (even with the injuries), the VAST MAJORITY against goalies worse than Rask.

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05-17-2013, 06:40 AM
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Flat out ********.

Not one sec of one period were we not outmatched & outplayed. A seeing eye goal in the second doesn't constitute a good ****ing game.

Worst game of the playoffs IMHO.

Blindly standing up for that performance doesn't make u a good fan.
Every aspect. Every facet. Bad.
Every basic rule broken.
Every menial task ignored.

Pathetic. Top to bottom... Hank to torts bad. Bad
First two p[eriods teams went back and forth pinning each other in the zone. I was very happy watching the first 2 periods. The 3rd we didn't even bother showing up from there. It was like we decided to play prevent and coast to a win and when the bruins tied it we forgot we had to start playing hockey again despite Hank trying to remind the team by making his usual plethora of amazing saves (despite his pretty terrible by his standards goals he gave up) I cana ccept this as one bad game but seriously if I see this 2 goals is not enough crap again from these ******* forwards I'm going to find the nearest living thing and kill it. Unless it's like a dog or a human or some larger animal than me...maybe something like rip a blade of grass out of the ground.

Also you're right I think it's pathetic that people act like little babies with this "you're not a real fan" garbage. To those folks, you're not better than any1 else you just don't get angryu and rant after emotional losses and failures. Good for you. Criticism and trying to analyze the game does not equal being a bad fan You people should learn how to accept the fact that people express anger


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05-17-2013, 06:47 AM
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Goalies are going to allow goals sooner or later. Lundqvist went 158 minutes without allowing a goal, do I wish he handled that Chara shot better to keep that streak alive? Yeah, but even Brodeur, Roy, and others great goaltenders allowed goals they should of had, too. Why is it so hard to say that Lundqvist had a solid game but that first goal is one he usually stops instead of Lundqvist was horrible! There's no middle ground because people need to use extremes for everything.

Lundqvist didn't cost the Rangers this game, the blame tonight can be spread out. Your goaltender allowed a less than stellar goal, does that excuse the team from being a complete no-show in the overtime yet again? Does that excuse the special teams? I wish they'd stop being so "special" and a bit more productive.

Bottom Line: The game's tied 2-2 after 60, both goalies had their good and not so good moments. The OT is a final battle to determine the winner and only one team looked ready for it. That's more inexcusable than anything.
He deserves blame but the F played so poorly that the bulk of the blame certainly shifts away from him. That said he's GOT to make onme of those two saves there are no excuses for him


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05-17-2013, 06:51 AM
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Now don't get me wrong, what the Rangers have done here is great. They're in the 2nd round again, they've been competitive, and I believe they have a legit chance to squeak past Boston. That would be back to back conference finals appearances. That's a great accomplishment and one I would cherish. But the fact of the matter is, this team has a shelf life. This team has a glass ceiling. As far as they get doing what they do, there's still a broad chasm between a conference finals team and a legit Cup contender. If the Rangers want to take that next step and become a legit Cup contender, the entire culture needs to change.

They need to learn how to score on the powerplay. They need to learn how to close out games they have a lead in consistently. They need to learn how to win in overtime. They need to be able to play a possession game. They need to -God forbid- beat a team in 5 games already. They need to win more games by more than one goal.

3-11 in overtime has to go. Hank having to be spectacular to win a game, let alone a series, has to go. The blown leads have to go. 7 games has to go. 2-1 has to go. 2 for 30 on the PP has to go. Depending on one guy to be the entire offense and then losing because he decides to take a month off has to go. In general, this team sucking in the playoffs has to go, and the same old **** has to go.

They might scratch and claw to the third round, but they won't be true contenders unless these changes happen, and we're talking about BIG changes. They cannot, WILL not, win the Stanley Cup as constructed.


Agreed on all points. .. these big changes you talk about? Personnel or Philosophy?

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05-17-2013, 07:01 AM
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Rangers can still win this, but they have to forecheck. If they hang around too long the officiating is going to impact the outcome of the game. Those were weak calls even for the regular season.
The network is already banging the drum for Boston full on with McGuire gushing over every bruin he can lay his eyes on....

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05-17-2013, 07:05 AM
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Some Bruins fans on the Main Board were mentioning how that was the most fluid PP they've had in a long time.

God forbid it was against anyone else.

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Also, the one thing I really hate: Gamecenter's radio is like one full minute behind the play. So I knew the game was over (since Yahoo Sports updates me on my phone) before I heard the call. Infuriating.
Don't read your phone next time.
Just my 2 cents

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05-17-2013, 07:12 AM
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Some Bruins fans on the Main Board were mentioning how that was the most fluid PP they've had in a long time.

God forbid it was against anyone else.
I think their pp was worse than ours in the regular season. Our PK made them look like Pittsburgh.

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05-17-2013, 07:18 AM
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Now don't get me wrong, what the Rangers have done here is great. They're in the 2nd round again, they've been competitive, and I believe they have a legit chance to squeak past Boston. That would be back to back conference finals appearances. That's a great accomplishment and one I would cherish. But the fact of the matter is, this team has a shelf life. This team has a glass ceiling. As far as they get doing what they do, there's still a broad chasm between a conference finals team and a legit Cup contender. If the Rangers want to take that next step and become a legit Cup contender, the entire culture needs to change.

They need to learn how to score on the powerplay. They need to learn how to close out games they have a lead in consistently. They need to learn how to win in overtime. They need to be able to play a possession game. They need to -God forbid- beat a team in 5 games already. They need to win more games by more than one goal.

3-11 in overtime has to go. Hank having to be spectacular to win a game, let alone a series, has to go. The blown leads have to go. 7 games has to go. 2-1 has to go. 2 for 30 on the PP has to go. Depending on one guy to be the entire offense and then losing because he decides to take a month off has to go. In general, this team sucking in the playoffs has to go, and the same old **** has to go.

They might scratch and claw to the third round, but they won't be true contenders unless these changes happen, and we're talking about BIG changes. They cannot, WILL not, win the Stanley Cup as constructed.
Really great post. Fantastic.

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Some Bruins fans on the Main Board were mentioning how that was the most fluid PP they've had in a long time.

God forbid it was against anyone else.
Everyone focuses on our PP fails, but our PK has really stunk this season compared to previous years.

Can we even field 3 competent forward pairs on the PK now that Powe is out? Cally, Stepan, Boyle, Hags, and ??? We better stay disciplined because those 4 are going to be exhausted if they have to keep killing off penalties.

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Some Bruins fans on the Main Board were mentioning how that was the most fluid PP they've had in a long time.

God forbid it was against anyone else.
Yeah, that probably has more to do with the craptastic team that was trying to kill said penalty. Credit where it's due of course, I'm sure they watched some tape of, ohhhhh I dunno the series against the caps where we leave the points wide open and allow Hank to be shelled repeatedly all night like Dresden.

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Maybe I'm romanticizing past Stanley Cup Champions, but this team doesn't have the killer instinct of one. They don't make teams pay on the powerplay. They go into a "prevent" defense with the lead. They just don't have that special sauce this year.

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Maybe I'm romanticizing past Stanley Cup Champions, but this team doesn't have the killer instinct of one. They don't make teams pay on the powerplay. They go into a "prevent" defense with the lead. They just don't have that special sauce this year.
I agree. I think as a team, they rely too much on Hank. It's also very rare, I feel, for this team to be the one pushing the pace during the game. Maybe I'm just blinded by that OT last night, but I feel like Boston controlled the majority of the play all night.

Still a totally winnable series here.

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The collapsing defense crap has to go. Teams know to blast pucks from the point and hope for the best. It's really infuriating to watch.

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This game sucked. Don't think the rangers had a scoring chance besides the goals


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Maybe I'm romanticizing past Stanley Cup Champions, but this team doesn't have the killer instinct of one. They don't make teams pay on the powerplay. They go into a "prevent" defense with the lead. They just don't have that special sauce this year.
The PP is the worst I have seen in a long time. Not only do they not gain momentum on it, they lose it. It's actually a detriment at this point.

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Well...

Given two alternatives, Lundqvist and Goalie X

Lundqvist:
Countless number of spectacular saves, a couple of games stolen, impressive goal against and save procentage stats, but also a couple of soft goals so far in Stanley Cup 2013.

Goalie X:
More goals against, no games stolen and worse save procentage vs Lundqvist but no softies let in

I strongly get the impression that a lot of you fans prefer Goalie X, they way you talk, your logic?



This may hurt but Boston is probably a better team than the Rangers. We all hope that Lundqvist will steal this series too but hockey is a team sport.

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Richards is garbage,that's all I have to say. Wtf is his deal. I loved the signing at first.
I know its the morning after and this might be reactionary...but with the way richards is playing, could there be a legit argument made that we would be better served with newbury centering this 4th line?

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There were times where I fetlt the Rangers were in complete control of the game last night. Granted that was not in OT, but I felt that they were doing what they needed to do to win the game.

However, once OT started, that seemed to change on the Dorsett call. It was a penalty and it was a good call. It seemed that from that moment on, Boston took it to us and we never settled down.

I have said it time and again, this team is SOFT on the puck. They stick check when they should be taking the body. The mind-set is a soft mindset and it permeates through the rest of their game and when the opposition starts to control tempo and pace, the team yields and retracts. It's a passive mindset.

Don't get me wrong, they are a tough team as they get hammered on shot wise and they are in most games, but consistently win? I don't believe that you can consistently win playing this way.

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