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05-07-2013, 07:37 PM
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Those are the parameters I have followed or thereabout. According to you Parenteau is a top of the line 1st liner? Stastny a 1st liner? Barrie a top 2nd-pairing guy? Sorry but I do not agree at all. Duchene struggled last year and had a good rebound season, but not enough to close in on Crosby or Ovechkin at all. Same for O'Reilly and Landeskog they have not proven enough yet, bump them down a little bit. You exagerated those ratings. The Avs miss the playoffs (AGAIN), may I remind you.

I don't see where I said anything about Paranteau being a top of the line top liner.

I said all top liners at PPG type levels should be 85+ no question. PA Paranteau just put up 43 pts in 48 games and was among the Top 30 in points. Same thing with Duchene. at 86 Overall that doesn't put him anywhere close to a "top of the line 1st liner" It actually puts him towards the bottom end of the 1st liners(Most of the 1st liners are in the high 88-91 range).

Once again, I am wondering how your reading skills are. I82-82 is basically a good 2nd liner, which is exactly what Stastny is.


Your overalls are terrible. Nobody is going to want to buy a game where there are 3 players(on average) on every team above an 80. That's an absolutely terrible system.

EA's ranking system as it is right now is actually very good. There are obviously some poorly ranked players such as Phaneuf(89), Kronwall(88), Gagne(86),etc. But for the most part they have player ranked very well.

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05-07-2013, 11:05 PM
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horrible lol....

Tyler Myers 87-78 ??
Jeff Skinner 84-78 ?
Erik Johnson 88-80 ?
Paul Stastny 85-79 ?
Marian Gaborik 89-84 ?
Scott Hartnell 84-78 ?
Daniel Briere 85-77 ?
Adam Larsson 84-77 ?

Weber the only player on NSH over 80 and hes 87??


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05-08-2013, 01:57 AM
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90-99: Elite
86-89: 1st Line / Top 2
82-85: 2nd Line / Top 4
77-81: 3rd Line / Top 6
70-76: 4th Line and/or Depth

Blues:

Schwartz 80 - Backes 85 - Steen 83
Perron 82 - Berglund 82 - Oshie 84
Tarasenko 80 - Sobotka 81 - Stewart 82
Cracknell 75 - Porter 77 - Reaves 76
Jaskin 70 / McDonald 79

Bouwmeester 86 - Pietrangelo 87
Leopold 80 - Shattenkirk 85
Jackman 83 - Polak 81
Russel 78 / Cole 76

Halak 84 / Elliot 84 / Allen 77

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05-09-2013, 07:02 AM
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I feel like your originals here were a little low in general and inconsistent with real life. For instance Justin Faulk is by far the Hurricanes best defenseman and should get a big jump. He was a 77 in last year's game.

Carolina Hurricanes -

Eric Staal - 89
Alexander Semin - 86
Jordan Staal - 84
Jeff Skinner - 84
Jiri Tlusty - 83
Tuomo Ruutu - 80
Patrick Dwyer - 79
Riley Nash - 77
Chad Larose - 75
Zac Dalpe - 73
Tim Brent - 72
Tim Wallace - 71
Zach Boychuk - 71
Drayson Bowman - 70
Kevin Westgarth - 69
Andreas Nodl - 69
Jeremy Welsh - 67

Justin Faulk - 84
Joni Pitkanen - 83
Tim Gleason - 80
Jay Harrison - 79
Joe Corvo - 76
Bobby Sanguinetti - 75
Marc-Andre Bergeron - 74
Jamie McBain - 71
Ryan Murphy - 70
Brett Bellemore - 69

Cam Ward - 85
Dan Ellis - 77
Justin Peters - 71

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05-09-2013, 09:58 AM
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No offense but your ratings are bordering on terrible.

I'll do the Sens just for fun

Latendresse - 80 (I'd put him at like 82 if his footspeed were higher)
Alfie - 83
Michalek - 84
Spezza - 88 (based on last year, injuries etc etc)
Turris - 81
Silfverberg - 79
Zibanejad - 80
Greening - 79
Condra - 77
Neil - 75
Smith - 76
Kassian - 68
Pageau - 72
JOB - 71

Karlsson - 90
Methot - 81
Cowen - 80
Gonchar - 82
Phillips - 80 (EA always makes him like 84 for some reason)
Gryba - 73
Wiercioch - 76
Benoit - 70

Anderson - 86
Lehner - 81, but due to EA's backup ratings he'd probably be around 79

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05-09-2013, 04:54 PM
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D.Sedin(87) H.Sedin(87)Burrows(82)
Booth(81) Kesler(87) Higgins(82)
Raymond(80)Roy(83)Hansen(81)
Weise(76)Lapierre(78)Kassian(79)

Garrison(83)Edler(84)
Bieksa(83)Hamhuis(85)
Tanev(79)Barker(76)Alberts(75)

Schneider(85)
Luongo(86)

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05-09-2013, 05:24 PM
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EA's rankings tend to not fluctuate too much between games. They also have a lot of ratings that are too high and some too low. With that said - here's my take on what EA will give the Leafs:

James Van Riemsdyk (82) - Tyler Bozak (80) - Phil Kessel (87)
Joffrey Lupul (84) - Nazem Kadri (80) - Nikolai Kulemin (80)
Clarke MacArthur (81) - Mikhail Grabovski (81) - Matt Frattin (75)
Leo Komarov (74) - Jay McClement (77) - Colton Orr (70)
Ryan Hamilton (68) - Joe Colborne (76) - Frazer McLaren (68)

Dion Phaneuf (87) - Carl Gunnarsson (82)
Cody Franson (80) - Mark Fraser (76)
Jake Gardiner (81) - John-Michael Liles (81)
Ryan O'Byrne (74) - Mike Kostka (71)

James Reimer (79)
Ben Scrivens (74)

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05-09-2013, 06:25 PM
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Here is exacty what the Toronto Maple Leafs/ Toronto Marlies ratings should be, i am not showing any favouritism here. This is what it should be.

Forwards
Joffrey Lupul(85) Tyler Bozak(82) Phil Kessel(87)
James Van Reimsdyk(84) Mikhail Garbovski(83) Clarke Macarthur(81)
Nikolia Kulemin(80) Nazem Kadri(82) Matt Frattin(78)
Colton Orr(74) Jay McLement(78) Fraser McLeran(72) TOR LINEUP
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Ryan Hamilton(74) Joe Colborne(76) Carter Ashton(73) TOR SCRATHES
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Greg Scott(72) Tim Connolly(71) Mike Zigomanis(71) AHL
Jerry D'Amigao(71) Will Acton(67) Kenny Ryan(69)
Spencer Abott(70) Andrew Crsencki(65) Greg McKegg(67)
Brad Ross(65) Sam Carrick(64) Ryan Lasch(67)
__________________________________________________ ____________
Jamie Devane(62) David Broll(60) Tyler Biggs(64) AHL SCRACTHES
Josh Leivo(59)

__________________________________________________ ____________

Defence

Dion Phanuef(87) Carl Gunnarson(82) TOR LINEUP
Cody Franson(82) Mark Fraser(78)
John Michael Liels(79) Jake Gardiner(81)
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Ryan O'Byrne(78) Mike Kostka(76) TOR SCRACTHES
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Horbinain Holzer(74) Jesse Blacker(74) AHL
Mike Komiserik(72) Mike Mottau(71)
Paul Ranger(73) Kevin Marshell(71)
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Simon Gysbers(70) Morgan Reilley(67) AHL SCRATHES
Stuart Percy(65) Dylan Yeo(60)
Corey Syret(59) Andrew McMillian(57)
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Goalies
James Reimer(82)
Bens Scrivens(79)
Jussi Rynnas(73)
Drew Macytrle(74)
Mark Owuya(67)
Garrett Sparks(66)

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05-09-2013, 06:44 PM
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OP's ratings suck imo.

I'll do the Sens:

Spezza - 87
Michalek - 84
Alfie - 83
Turris - 82
Conacher - 79
Latendresse - 79
Silfverberg - 78
Zibanejad - 78
Greening - 77
Smith - 77
Condra - 77
Neil - 76
Pageau - 74
O'Brien - 72
Kassian - 70

Karlsson - 89
Methot - 83
Gonchar - 83
Phillips - 81
Cowen - 79
Gryba - 74
Weircioch - 75

Anderson - 86
Lehner - 80

EA is always bad at ratings, some are too damn high and some are way too low. The actual ratings probably won't be too close to mine but I think these are fair.


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05-09-2013, 08:26 PM
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My opinion of the Senators

Spezza 87
Adlfredson 85
Turris 84
Michalek 84
Conacher 81
Zibanajad 80
Slivfrberg 79
Latandresse 78
Condra 78
Greening 78
Pageau 78
Smith 76
Niel 72
Kassian 71

Karlson 89
Gonchar 84
Methot 83
Gryba 78
Wiercoch 77
Phillps 77
Cowen 77

Anderson 89
Lehner 80

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05-09-2013, 10:05 PM
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Here is exacty what the Toronto Maple Leafs/ Toronto Marlies ratings should be, i am not showing any favouritism here. This is what it should be.

Forwards
Joffrey Lupul(85) Tyler Bozak(82) Phil Kessel(87)
James Van Reimsdyk(84) Mikhail Garbovski(83) Clarke Macarthur(81)
Nikolia Kulemin(80) Nazem Kadri(82) Matt Frattin(78)
Colton Orr(74) Jay McLement(78) Fraser McLeran(72) TOR LINEUP
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Ryan Hamilton(74) Joe Colborne(76) Carter Ashton(73) TOR SCRATHES
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Greg Scott(72) Tim Connolly(71) Mike Zigomanis(71) AHL
Jerry D'Amigao(71) Will Acton(67) Kenny Ryan(69)
Spencer Abott(70) Andrew Crsencki(65) Greg McKegg(67)
Brad Ross(65) Sam Carrick(64) Ryan Lasch(67)
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Jamie Devane(62) David Broll(60) Tyler Biggs(64) AHL SCRACTHES
Josh Leivo(59)

__________________________________________________ ____________

Defence

Dion Phanuef(87) Carl Gunnarson(82) TOR LINEUP
Cody Franson(82) Mark Fraser(78)
John Michael Liels(79) Jake Gardiner(81)
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Ryan O'Byrne(78) Mike Kostka(76) TOR SCRACTHES
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Horbinain Holzer(74) Jesse Blacker(74) AHL
Mike Komiserik(72) Mike Mottau(71)
Paul Ranger(73) Kevin Marshell(71)
__________________________________________________ ______________
Simon Gysbers(70) Morgan Reilley(67) AHL SCRATHES
Stuart Percy(65) Dylan Yeo(60)
Corey Syret(59) Andrew McMillian(57)
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Goalies
James Reimer(82)
Bens Scrivens(79)
Jussi Rynnas(73)
Drew Macytrle(74)
Mark Owuya(67)
Garrett Sparks(66)
These are honestly pretty good. Kind surprising.

The only ones I disagree with are Grabovski and Phaneuf. Grabovski just had his worst statistical season in the league for at least 2-3 years. No way he goes up from last season. He should be an 80-81 at best.

And Phaneuf should be an 85 IMO. He's not a clear cut #1 Dman, more of a 1/2 and those guys are usually in the 84-85 range.

Other then that pretty good though.

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05-11-2013, 08:39 AM
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I'll do mine for the Lightning.

90-99: Elite
86-90: 1st line forward/Top 2 d/starting goalie
81-86 2nd line forward/Top 4 d/starting/backup goalie
78-81 3rd line forward/Top 6 d/backup goalie
74-78/ 4th line forward/depth d/minor starting goalie

Killorn (82) -Stamkos (90)- St. Louis (88)
Purcell (83) - Lecavalier (85) - Malone (79)
Pouliot (80) - Johnson (78) - Panik (79)
Pyatt (76) - Thompson (77) - Crombeen (74)

Hedman (86)-Salo (83)
Carle (83)-Brewer (78)
Aulie (79)-Gudas (80)

Bishop (82)
Lindbäck (79)

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05-11-2013, 10:45 AM
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Funny everyone talking s*** on the ratings immediately follows it up by posting there homer ratings from their crappy favorite teams that can't even make the playoffs and immediately show their true colors.. well done o.p., a few may be low but not many. (skinner, faulk)

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05-13-2013, 04:51 PM
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These are honestly pretty good. Kind surprising.

The only ones I disagree with are Grabovski and Phaneuf. Grabovski just had his worst statistical season in the league for at least 2-3 years. No way he goes up from last season. He should be an 80-81 at best.

And Phaneuf should be an 85 IMO. He's not a clear cut #1 Dman, more of a 1/2 and those guys are usually in the 84-85 range.

Other then that pretty good though.
Ya i know Garbovski is a really good player but he has struggled latley, so i would say 81 but he is a really talneted player

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Okay, I'll bite on the Bruins' roster...but I'm guessing one or more of our defensemen won't be there next year. Matt Bartkowski being the likely fill-in.

90-99: Elite
86-90: 1st line forward/Top 2 d/starting goalie
81-86 2nd line forward/Top 4 d/starting/backup goalie
78-81 3rd line forward/Top 6 d/backup goalie
74-78/ 4th line forward/depth d/minor starting goalie

Marchand (81) - Bergeron (86) - Seguin (83)
Lucic (83) - Krejci (85) - Horton (83)
Jagr (80) - Kelly (78) - Peverley (81)
Paille (76) - Campbell (74) - Thornton (74)

Chara (90)- Boychuk (80)
Seidenberg (85)-Hamilton (78)
Ference (81)- McQuaid (80)

(Bartkowski 75)

Rask (87)
Khudobin (79)

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05-14-2013, 01:16 PM
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Los Angeles Kings

Kopitar - 88
Brown - 83
Williams - 83
Richards - 86
Carter - 86
Penner - 79
King - 74
Stoll - 80
Lewis - 77
Nolan - 72
Fraser - 71
Toffoli - 73

Mitchell - 83
Doughty - 87
Greene - 80
Voynov - 82
Martinez - 78
Muzzin - 73

Quick - 90
Jones - 72

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Habs:

Bourque (83) - Plekanec (85) - Ryder (85)
Pacioretty (86) - Desharnais (80) - Gallagher (80)
Galchenyuk (79) - Eller (82) - Prust (76)
Moen (74) - White (73) - Armstrong (73)

Markov (84) - Emelin (81)
Gorges (79) - Subban (87)
Bouillon (77) - Diaz (77)
Tinordi (74)

Price (86)
Budaj (79)

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Ilya Kovalchuk - 90
Patrik Elias - 86
David Clarkson - 83
Dainius Zubrus - 81
Travis Zajac - 82
Adam Henrique - 83
Steve Sullivan - 77
Andrei Loktionov - 79
Alexei Ponikarovsky - 78
Matt D'Agostini - 77
Stephen Gionta - 76
Ryan Carter - 77
Steve Bernier - 78
Jacob Josefson - 72
Tom Kostopoulos - 70


Andy Greene - 83
Marek Zidlicky - 80
Adam Larsson - 82
Anton Volchenkov - 77
Bryce Salvador - 77
Mark Fayne - 80
Henrik Tallinder - 79

Martin Brodeur - 83
Johan Hedberg - 78

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I've done my forward and goaltender rankings based on statistics from '10-'11, '11-'12, and '12-'13. I know some people will disagree, but I don't really care. If you think a player should be rated higher, tell him to put up better stats. The scale is mainly for BAGM based on how players progress in NHL 13 (note: Not based on original roster where all the 3-star and 3.5-star prospects displace half the league within 3 years) and offensive stats were weighted more than defensive stats. I hope NHL 14 changes things (in which case I'll need to re-do my formulae, but that's fine), but assuming things stay the same, I don't want veterans pushed out after 1 year even when we know they're still going to be NHLers 5 years from now. I won't include teams that are still playing as their statistics will change and, thus, their rating may change. I'm still working on my algorithm for defensemen.

Top 90 forward (aka top 3): 85-95 OVR
Top 180 forward (aka top 6): 82-85 OVR
Top 270 forward (aka top 9): 80-82 OVR
Top 360 forward (aka top 12): 78-80 OVR
Top 450 forward (aka borderline NHLers): 75-78 OVR
The rest (aka AHL call-ups): 70-75 OVR

Forwards
Anaheim:
Getzlaf, Ryan 89
Perry, Corey 89
Selanne, Teemu 88
Ryan, Bobby 86
Koivu, Saku 84
Cogliano, Andrew 81
Dvorak, Radek 80
Winnik, Daniel 80
Bonino, Nick 80
Palmieri, Kyle 79
McMillan, Brandon 79
Lombardi, Matthew 79
Beleskey, Matt 79
Etem, Emerson 78
Steckel, David 78
Smith-Pelly, Devante 77
Staubitz, Brad 76
Holland, Peter 75
Maroon, Patrick 74
Rakell, Rickard 70

Boston:
Still in playoffs

Buffalo:
Vanek, Thomas 88
Ennis, Tyler 85
Stafford, Drew 84
Leino, Ville 83
Hodgson, Cody 83
Ott, Steve 82
Gerbe, Nathan 81
Hecht, Jochen 81
Foligno, Marcus 80
Porter, Kevin 79
Adam, Luke 78
McCormick, Cody 78
Kaleta, Patrick 77
Flynn, Brian 77
Ellis, Matt 76
Scott, John 75
Grigorenko, Mikhail 75

Calgary:
Tanguay, Alex 87
Cammalleri, Mike 86
Glencross, Curtis 84
Hudler, Jiri 83
Stempniak, Lee 83
Stajan, Matt 81
Backlund, Mikael 80
Horak, Roman 78
Baertschi, Sven 78
Jackman, Tim 78
Cervenka, Roman 77
Jones, Blair 77
Byron, Paul 75
McGrattan, Brian 75
Begin, Steve 75
Reinhart, Maxwell 74
Aliu, Akim 73
Hanowski, Ben 72
Street, Ben 72
Bancks, Carter 70

Carolina:
Staal, Eric 89
Semin, Alexander 87
Staal, Jordan 86
Skinner, Jeff 85
Ruutu, Tuomo 84
Tlusty, Jiri 82
LaRose, Chad 80
Brent, Tim 79
Dwyer, Patrick 78
Nodl, Andreas 78
Bowman, Drayson 78
Dalpe, Zac 77
Wallace, Tim 77
Boychuk, Zach 77
Westgarth, Kevin 76
Nash, Riley 76
Sutter, Brett 75
Welsh, Jeremy 72
Blanchard, Nicolas 71
Terry, Chris 71
Staal, Jared 70

Chicago:
Still in playoffs

Columbus:
Gaborik, Marian 86
Prospal, Vinny 85
Dubinsky, Brandon 84
Umberger, RJ 83
Anisimov, Artem 82
Foligno, Nick 82
Letestu, Mark 82
Calvert, Matt 81
Comeau, Blake 81
Atkinson, Cam 80
Johansen, Ryan 80
MacKenzie, Derek 79
Boll, Jared 77
Gillies, Colton 77
Drazenovic, Nick 72
Collins, Sean 71
Audy-Marchessault, Jonathan 70

Colorado:
Parenteau, PA 87
Duchene, Matt 86
Stastny, Paul 85
Landeskog, Gabriel 84
Downie, Steve 84
Hejduk, Milan 84
O'Reilly, Ryan 83
Jones, David 83
McGinn, Jamie 80
Mitchell, John 79
Kobasew, Chuck 79
Vincour, Tomas 78
Olver, Mark 78
Van Der Gulik, David 77
McLeod, Cody 77
Palushaj, Aaron 77
Bordeleau, Patrick 75
Malone, Brad 75
Sgarbossa, Michael 71

Dallas:
Benn, Jamie 88
Eriksson, Loui 87
Whitney, Ray 87
Cole, Erik 84
Fiddler, Vernon 79
Eakin, Cody 79
Nystrom, Eric 78
Wandell, Tom 77
Garbutt, Ryan 77
Smith, Reilly 77
Petersen, Toby 77
Roussel, Antoine 77
Chiasson, Alex 76
Fraser, Matt 74
MacDermid, Lane 73
Sceviour, Colton 71
Wathier, Francis 71

Detroit:
Still in playoffs

Edmonton:
Hall, Taylor 88
Eberle, Jordan 87
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 86
Gagner, Sam 85
Hemsky, Ales 85
Smyth, Ryan 83
Yakupov, Nail 82
Horcoff, Shawn 82
Paajarvi, Magnus 80
Jones, Ryan 80
Belanger, Eric 80
Eager, Ben 78
Petrell, Lennart 78
Hartikainen, Teemu 77
Smithson, Jerred 77
Brown, Mike 77
Hordichuk, Darcy 76
Lander, Anton 75
VandeVelde, Chris 74
Arcobello, Mark 70

Florida:
Fleischmann, Tomas 86
Versteeg, Kris 85
Weiss, Stephen 85
Goc, Marcel 82
Kopecky, Tomas 82
Huberdeau, Jonathan 82
Matthias, Shawn 80
Upshall, Scottie 80
Mueller, Peter 80
Skille, Jack 79
Shore, Drew 78
Parros, George 76
Timmins, Scott 73
Bjugstad, Nick 73
Rallo, Greg 73
Howden, Quinton 72
Selleck, Eric 71
Rheault, Jonathan 71

Los Angeles:
Still in playoffs

Minnesota:
Koivu, Mikko 87
Pominville, Jason 87
Parise, Zach 86
Heatley, Dany 85
Bouchard, Pierre-Marc 84
Setoguchi, Devin 83
Cullen, Matt 83
Brodziak, Kyle 82
Clutterbuck, Cal 81
Mitchell, Torrey 79
Coyle, Charlie 79
Dowell, Jake 78
Rupp, Mike 77
Konopka, Zenon 76
Granlund, Mikael 76
Zucker, Jason 76
Veilleux, Stephane 74
Larsson, Johan 70

Montreal:
Pacioretty, Max 87
Plekanec, Tomas 85
Ryder, Michael 85
Desharnais, David 84
Gionta, Brian 83
Bourque, Rene 82
Gallagher, Brendan 82
Galchenyuk, Alex 81
Eller, Lars 81
Prust, Brandon 79
Armstrong, Colby 79
Halpern, Jeff 79
Moen, Travis 78
White, Ryan 77
Blunden, Mike 75
Dumont, Gabriel 73

Nashville:
Legwand, David 84
Hornqvist, Patric 83
Fisher, Mike 83
Kostitsyn, Sergei 83
Wilson, Colin 82
Bourque, Gabriel 82
Smith, Craig 81
Butler, Bobby 81
Halischuk, Matt 80
Gaustad, Paul 80
Spaling, Nick 79
Yip, Brandon 79
Clune, Rich 76
Beck, Taylor 75
Mueller, Chris 75
Bang, Daniel 72
Forsberg, Filip 72
Watson, Austin 72
Rask, Joonas 71
Henderson, Kevin 71

New Jersey:
Kovalchuk, Ilya 88
Elias, Patrik 87
Henrique, Adam 84
Sullivan, Steve 83
Zajac, Travis 82
Zubrus, Dainius 82
Clarkson, David 81
D'Agostini, Matt 81
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 80
Loktionov, Andrei 79
Tedenby, Mattias 79
Gionta, Stephen 79
Bernier, Steve 79
Josefson, Jacob 79
Carter, Ryan 78
Kostopoulos, Tom 78
Barch, Krystofer 76
Janssen, Cam 76
Sestito, Tim 74
Matteau, Stefan 73
Anderson, Matt 71
Pesonen, Harri 70

NY Islanders:
Tavares, John 89
Moulson, Matt 87
Nielsen, Frans 84
Boyes, Brad 83
Okposo, Kyle 83
Grabner, Michael 83
Bailey, Josh 81
Aucoin, Keith 80
Reasoner, Marty 79
McDonald, Colin 78
Cizikas, Casey 78
Martin, Matt 78
Ullstrom, David 77
Joensuu, Jesse 77
Boulton, Eric 76
Lee, Anders 73
Nelson, Brock 70

NY Rangers:
Still in playoffs

Ottawa:
Still in playoffs

Philadelphia:
Giroux, Claude 91
Briere, Danny 86
Voracek, Jakub 85
Hartnell, Scott 85
Read, Matt 84
Gagne, Simon 83
Simmonds, Wayne 83
Schenn, Brayden 82
Knuble, Mike 80
Talbot, Maxime 80
Couturier, Sean 80
Fedotenko, Ruslan 80
Hall, Adam 78
Rinaldo, Zac 77
Wellwood, Eric 77
Zolnierczyk, Harry 76
Shelley, Jody 76
Rosehill, Jay 75
McGinn, Tye 74
Akeson, Jason 73
Laughton, Scott 71

Phoenix:
Vrbata, Radim 86
Doan, Shane 85
Hanzal, Martin 83
Vermette, Antoine 83
Moss, David 82
Korpikoski, Lauri 81
Boedker, Mikkel 81
Johnson, Nick 80
Conner, Chris 79
Chipchura, Kyle 79
Gordon, Boyd 78
Klinkhammer, Rob 76
Bissonnette, Paul 76
Bolduc, Alexandre 75
Miele, Andy 71
Brown, Chris 71

Pittsburgh:
Still in playoffs

San Jose:
Still in playoffs

St. Louis:
McDonald, Andy 86
Backes, David 85
Steen, Alexander 85
Oshie, T.J. 85
Perron, David 84
Stewart, Chris 84
Berglund, Patrik 83
Langenbrunner, Jamie 81
Sobotka, Vladimir 80
Tarasenko, Vladimir 78
Porter, Chris 78
Schwartz, Jaden 78
Cracknell, Adam 77
Reaves, Ryan 77
Nichol, Scott 76
Murray, Andrew 76
Jaskin, Dmitrij 70

Tampa Bay:
St Louis, Martin 92
Stamkos, Steven 92
Lecavalier, Vincent 87
Purcell, Teddy 86
Malone, Ryan 84
Pouliot, Benoit 81
Thompson, Nate 79
Pyatt, Tom 78
Killorn, Alex 78
Tyrell, Dana 78
Wyman, JT 77
Crombeen, B.J. 77
Connolly, Brett 77
Panik, Richard 77
Johnson, Tyler 75
Labrie, Pierre-Cedric 75
Palat, Ondrej 74
Angelidis, Mike 72

Toronto:
Kessel, Phil 89
Lupul, Joffrey 88
MacArthur, Clarke 85
Kadri, Nazem 85
Grabovski, Mikhail 84
van Riemsdyk, James 84
Bozak, Tyler 83
Kulemin, Nikolai 83
Frattin, Matt 80
McClement, Jay 79
Komarov, Leo 76
Orr, Colton 76
McLaren, Frazer 75
Colborne, Joe 75
Hamilton, Ryan 74

Vancouver:
Sedin, Daniel 90
Sedin, Henrik 90
Kesler, Ryan 86
Roy, Derek 85
Burrows, Alexandre 84
Booth, David 82
Higgins, Chris 82
Raymond, Mason 82
Hansen, Jannik 81
Malhotra, Manny 79
Kassian, Zack 78
Ebbett, Andrew 78
Lapierre, Maxim 78
Weise, Dale 77
Schroeder, Jordan 76
Sestito, Tom 76
Gordon, Andrew 76
Pinizzotto, Steven 72
Sweatt, Bill 70
Jensen, Nicklas 70

Washington:
Ovechkin, Alex 89
Ribeiro, Mike 88
Backstrom, Nicklas 88
Erat, Martin 85
Laich, Brooks 83
Johansson, Marcus 82
Brouwer, Troy 82
Perreault, Mathieu 82
Wolski, Wojtek 81
Ward, Joel 81
Chimera, Jason 81
Crabb, Joey 80
Fehr, Eric 79
Hendricks, Matt 78
Beagle, Jay 77
Volpatti, Aaron 75
Wilson, Tom 70

Winnipeg:
Ladd, Andrew 86
Wheeler, Blake 86
Kane, Evander 85
Little, Bryan 85
Jokinen, Olli 84
Antropov, Nik 83
Wellwood, Kyle 82
Miettinen, Antti 81
Santorelli, Mike 80
Burmistrov, Alexander 79
Slater, Jim 79
Thorburn, Chris 78
Tangradi, Eric 77
Cormier, Patrice 75
Gagnon, Aaron 74
Wright, James 74
Peluso, Anthony 73
Scheifele, Mark 73

Goaltenders
Anaheim:
Hiller, Jonas 86
Fasth, Viktor 80

Boston:
Still in playoffs

Buffalo:
Miller, Ryan 87
Enroth, Jhonas 79
Hackett, Matt 76

Calgary:
Kiprusoff, Miikka 84
MacDonald, Joey 78
Irving, Leland 73
Taylor, Daniel 73

Carolina:
Ward, Cam 85
Ellis, Dan 78
Peters, Justin 75

Chicago:
Still in playoffs

Columbus:
Bobrovsky, Sergei 84
Leighton, Michael 71

Colorado:
Varlamov, Semyon 83
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien 80
Aittokallio, Sami 75

Dallas:
Lehtonen, Kari 86
Bachman, Richard 75
Nilstorp, Cristopher 73

Detroit:
Still in playoffs

Edmonton:
Dubnyk, Devan 83
Khabibulin, Nikolai 79
Danis, Yann 71

Florida:
Theodore, Jose 82
Clemmensen, Scott 79
Markstrom, Jacob 75

Los Angeles:
Still in playoffs

Minnesota:
Backstrom, Niklas 85
Harding, Josh 78
Kuemper, Darcy 75

Montreal:
Price, Carey 89
Budaj, Peter 78

Nashville:
Rinne, Pekka 91
Mason, Chris 76

New Jersey:
Brodeur, Martin 85
Hedberg, Johan 81
Frazee, Jeff 76
Kinkaid, Keith 75

NY Islanders:
Nabokov, Evgeni 80
Poulin, Kevin 76
DiPietro, Rick 75

NY Rangers:
Still in playoffs

Ottawa:
Still in playoffs

Philadelphia:
Bryzgalov, Ilya 85
Mason, Steve 79
Boucher, Brian 77

Phoenix:
Smith, Mike 88
LaBarbera, Jason 78
Johnson, Chad 78

Pittsburgh:
Still in playoffs

San Jose:
Still in playoffs

St. Louis:
Halak, Jaroslav 86
Elliott, Brian 84
Allen, Jake 76

Tampa Bay:
Garon, Mathieu 79
Lindback, Anders 79
Bishop, Ben 79
Desjardins, Cedrick 77

Toronto:
Reimer, James 83
Scrivens, Ben 77
Rynnas, Jussi 71

Vancouver:
Luongo, Roberto 89
Schneider, Cory 86

Washington:
Holtby, Braden 85
Neuvirth, Michal 82
Grubauer, Philipp 73

Winnipeg:
Pavelec, Ondrej 83
Montoya, Al 78


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(C) Mikko Koivu - 85
(A) Zach Parise - 86
(A) Ryan Suter - 87

Forwards:

Jason Pominville - 83
Matt Cullen - 81
Dany Heatley - 81
Devin Setoguchi - 79
Pierre-Marc Bouchard - 79
Kyle Brodziak - 79
Charlie Coyle - 78
Torrey Mitchell - 78
Cal Clutterbuck - 77
Jason Zucker - 76
Mike Rupp - 75
Mikael Granlund - 74
Zenon Konopka - 73
Jake Dowell - 72

Defensemen:

Jonas Brodin - 83
Jared Spurgeon - 80
Tom Gilbert - 80
Marco Scandella - 77
Clayton Stoner - 76
Justin Falk - 75
Nate Prosser - 74
Brett Clark - 73

Goaltenders:

Niklas Bäckström - 84
Josh Harding - 78
Darcy Kuemper - 72

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Joffrey Lupul (86) - Nazem Kadri (84) - Nikolai Kulemin (81)
Clarke MacArthur (81) - Mikhail Grabovski (80) - Matt Frattin (75)
Leo Komarov (74) - Jay McClement (79) - Colton Orr (70)
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I've done my forward and goaltender rankings based on statistics from '10-'11, '11-'12, and '12-'13. I know some people will disagree, but I don't really care. If you think a player should be rated higher, tell him to put up better stats. The scale is mainly for BAGM based on how players progress in NHL 13 (note: Not based on original roster where all the 3-star and 3.5-star prospects displace half the league within 3 years) and offensive stats were weighted more than defensive stats. I hope NHL 14 changes things (in which case I'll need to re-do my formulae, but that's fine), but assuming things stay the same, I don't want veterans pushed out after 1 year even when we know they're still going to be NHLers 5 years from now. I won't include teams that are still playing as their statistics will change and, thus, their rating may change. I'm still working on my algorithm for defensemen.

Top 90 forward (aka top 3): 85-95 OVR
Top 180 forward (aka top 6): 82-85 OVR
Top 270 forward (aka top 9): 80-82 OVR
Top 360 forward (aka top 12): 78-80 OVR
Top 450 forward (aka borderline NHLers): 75-78 OVR
The rest (aka AHL call-ups): 70-75 OVR

Forwards
Anaheim:
Getzlaf, Ryan 89
Perry, Corey 89
Selanne, Teemu 88
Ryan, Bobby 86
Koivu, Saku 84
Cogliano, Andrew 81
Dvorak, Radek 80
Winnik, Daniel 80
Bonino, Nick 80
Palmieri, Kyle 79
McMillan, Brandon 79
Lombardi, Matthew 79
Beleskey, Matt 79
Etem, Emerson 78
Steckel, David 78
Smith-Pelly, Devante 77
Staubitz, Brad 76
Holland, Peter 75
Maroon, Patrick 74
Rakell, Rickard 70

Boston:
Still in playoffs

Buffalo:
Vanek, Thomas 88
Ennis, Tyler 85
Stafford, Drew 84
Leino, Ville 83
Hodgson, Cody 83
Ott, Steve 82
Gerbe, Nathan 81
Hecht, Jochen 81
Foligno, Marcus 80
Porter, Kevin 79
Adam, Luke 78
McCormick, Cody 78
Kaleta, Patrick 77
Flynn, Brian 77
Ellis, Matt 76
Scott, John 75
Grigorenko, Mikhail 75

Calgary:
Tanguay, Alex 87
Cammalleri, Mike 86
Glencross, Curtis 84
Hudler, Jiri 83
Stempniak, Lee 83
Stajan, Matt 81
Backlund, Mikael 80
Horak, Roman 78
Baertschi, Sven 78
Jackman, Tim 78
Cervenka, Roman 77
Jones, Blair 77
Byron, Paul 75
McGrattan, Brian 75
Begin, Steve 75
Reinhart, Maxwell 74
Aliu, Akim 73
Hanowski, Ben 72
Street, Ben 72
Bancks, Carter 70

Carolina:
Staal, Eric 89
Semin, Alexander 87
Staal, Jordan 86
Skinner, Jeff 85
Ruutu, Tuomo 84
Tlusty, Jiri 82
LaRose, Chad 80
Brent, Tim 79
Dwyer, Patrick 78
Nodl, Andreas 78
Bowman, Drayson 78
Dalpe, Zac 77
Wallace, Tim 77
Boychuk, Zach 77
Westgarth, Kevin 76
Nash, Riley 76
Sutter, Brett 75
Welsh, Jeremy 72
Blanchard, Nicolas 71
Terry, Chris 71
Staal, Jared 70

Chicago:
Still in playoffs

Columbus:
Gaborik, Marian 86
Prospal, Vinny 85
Dubinsky, Brandon 84
Umberger, RJ 83
Anisimov, Artem 82
Foligno, Nick 82
Letestu, Mark 82
Calvert, Matt 81
Comeau, Blake 81
Atkinson, Cam 80
Johansen, Ryan 80
MacKenzie, Derek 79
Boll, Jared 77
Gillies, Colton 77
Drazenovic, Nick 72
Collins, Sean 71
Audy-Marchessault, Jonathan 70

Colorado:
Parenteau, PA 87
Duchene, Matt 86
Stastny, Paul 85
Landeskog, Gabriel 84
Downie, Steve 84
Hejduk, Milan 84
O'Reilly, Ryan 83
Jones, David 83
McGinn, Jamie 80
Mitchell, John 79
Kobasew, Chuck 79
Vincour, Tomas 78
Olver, Mark 78
Van Der Gulik, David 77
McLeod, Cody 77
Palushaj, Aaron 77
Bordeleau, Patrick 75
Malone, Brad 75
Sgarbossa, Michael 71

Dallas:
Benn, Jamie 88
Eriksson, Loui 87
Whitney, Ray 87
Cole, Erik 84
Fiddler, Vernon 79
Eakin, Cody 79
Nystrom, Eric 78
Wandell, Tom 77
Garbutt, Ryan 77
Smith, Reilly 77
Petersen, Toby 77
Roussel, Antoine 77
Chiasson, Alex 76
Fraser, Matt 74
MacDermid, Lane 73
Sceviour, Colton 71
Wathier, Francis 71

Detroit:
Still in playoffs

Edmonton:
Hall, Taylor 88
Eberle, Jordan 87
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 86
Gagner, Sam 85
Hemsky, Ales 85
Smyth, Ryan 83
Yakupov, Nail 82
Horcoff, Shawn 82
Paajarvi, Magnus 80
Jones, Ryan 80
Belanger, Eric 80
Eager, Ben 78
Petrell, Lennart 78
Hartikainen, Teemu 77
Smithson, Jerred 77
Brown, Mike 77
Hordichuk, Darcy 76
Lander, Anton 75
VandeVelde, Chris 74
Arcobello, Mark 70

Florida:
Fleischmann, Tomas 86
Versteeg, Kris 85
Weiss, Stephen 85
Goc, Marcel 82
Kopecky, Tomas 82
Huberdeau, Jonathan 82
Matthias, Shawn 80
Upshall, Scottie 80
Mueller, Peter 80
Skille, Jack 79
Shore, Drew 78
Parros, George 76
Timmins, Scott 73
Bjugstad, Nick 73
Rallo, Greg 73
Howden, Quinton 72
Selleck, Eric 71
Rheault, Jonathan 71

Los Angeles:
Still in playoffs

Minnesota:
Koivu, Mikko 87
Pominville, Jason 87
Parise, Zach 86
Heatley, Dany 85
Bouchard, Pierre-Marc 84
Setoguchi, Devin 83
Cullen, Matt 83
Brodziak, Kyle 82
Clutterbuck, Cal 81
Mitchell, Torrey 79
Coyle, Charlie 79
Dowell, Jake 78
Rupp, Mike 77
Konopka, Zenon 76
Granlund, Mikael 76
Zucker, Jason 76
Veilleux, Stephane 74
Larsson, Johan 70

Montreal:
Pacioretty, Max 87
Plekanec, Tomas 85
Ryder, Michael 85
Desharnais, David 84
Gionta, Brian 83
Bourque, Rene 82
Gallagher, Brendan 82
Galchenyuk, Alex 81
Eller, Lars 81
Prust, Brandon 79
Armstrong, Colby 79
Halpern, Jeff 79
Moen, Travis 78
White, Ryan 77
Blunden, Mike 75
Dumont, Gabriel 73

Nashville:
Legwand, David 84
Hornqvist, Patric 83
Fisher, Mike 83
Kostitsyn, Sergei 83
Wilson, Colin 82
Bourque, Gabriel 82
Smith, Craig 81
Butler, Bobby 81
Halischuk, Matt 80
Gaustad, Paul 80
Spaling, Nick 79
Yip, Brandon 79
Clune, Rich 76
Beck, Taylor 75
Mueller, Chris 75
Bang, Daniel 72
Forsberg, Filip 72
Watson, Austin 72
Rask, Joonas 71
Henderson, Kevin 71

New Jersey:
Kovalchuk, Ilya 88
Elias, Patrik 87
Henrique, Adam 84
Sullivan, Steve 83
Zajac, Travis 82
Zubrus, Dainius 82
Clarkson, David 81
D'Agostini, Matt 81
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 80
Loktionov, Andrei 79
Tedenby, Mattias 79
Gionta, Stephen 79
Bernier, Steve 79
Josefson, Jacob 79
Carter, Ryan 78
Kostopoulos, Tom 78
Barch, Krystofer 76
Janssen, Cam 76
Sestito, Tim 74
Matteau, Stefan 73
Anderson, Matt 71
Pesonen, Harri 70

NY Islanders:
Tavares, John 89
Moulson, Matt 87
Nielsen, Frans 84
Boyes, Brad 83
Okposo, Kyle 83
Grabner, Michael 83
Bailey, Josh 81
Aucoin, Keith 80
Reasoner, Marty 79
McDonald, Colin 78
Cizikas, Casey 78
Martin, Matt 78
Ullstrom, David 77
Joensuu, Jesse 77
Boulton, Eric 76
Lee, Anders 73
Nelson, Brock 70

NY Rangers:
Still in playoffs

Ottawa:
Still in playoffs

Philadelphia:
Giroux, Claude 91
Briere, Danny 86
Voracek, Jakub 85
Hartnell, Scott 85
Read, Matt 84
Gagne, Simon 83
Simmonds, Wayne 83
Schenn, Brayden 82
Knuble, Mike 80
Talbot, Maxime 80
Couturier, Sean 80
Fedotenko, Ruslan 80
Hall, Adam 78
Rinaldo, Zac 77
Wellwood, Eric 77
Zolnierczyk, Harry 76
Shelley, Jody 76
Rosehill, Jay 75
McGinn, Tye 74
Akeson, Jason 73
Laughton, Scott 71

Phoenix:
Vrbata, Radim 86
Doan, Shane 85
Hanzal, Martin 83
Vermette, Antoine 83
Moss, David 82
Korpikoski, Lauri 81
Boedker, Mikkel 81
Johnson, Nick 80
Conner, Chris 79
Chipchura, Kyle 79
Gordon, Boyd 78
Klinkhammer, Rob 76
Bissonnette, Paul 76
Bolduc, Alexandre 75
Miele, Andy 71
Brown, Chris 71

Pittsburgh:
Still in playoffs

San Jose:
Still in playoffs

St. Louis:
McDonald, Andy 86
Backes, David 85
Steen, Alexander 85
Oshie, T.J. 85
Perron, David 84
Stewart, Chris 84
Berglund, Patrik 83
Langenbrunner, Jamie 81
Sobotka, Vladimir 80
Tarasenko, Vladimir 78
Porter, Chris 78
Schwartz, Jaden 78
Cracknell, Adam 77
Reaves, Ryan 77
Nichol, Scott 76
Murray, Andrew 76
Jaskin, Dmitrij 70

Tampa Bay:
St Louis, Martin 92
Stamkos, Steven 92
Lecavalier, Vincent 87
Purcell, Teddy 86
Malone, Ryan 84
Pouliot, Benoit 81
Thompson, Nate 79
Pyatt, Tom 78
Killorn, Alex 78
Tyrell, Dana 78
Wyman, JT 77
Crombeen, B.J. 77
Connolly, Brett 77
Panik, Richard 77
Johnson, Tyler 75
Labrie, Pierre-Cedric 75
Palat, Ondrej 74
Angelidis, Mike 72

Toronto:
Kessel, Phil 89
Lupul, Joffrey 88
MacArthur, Clarke 85
Kadri, Nazem 85
Grabovski, Mikhail 84
van Riemsdyk, James 84
Bozak, Tyler 83
Kulemin, Nikolai 83
Frattin, Matt 80
McClement, Jay 79
Komarov, Leo 76
Orr, Colton 76
McLaren, Frazer 75
Colborne, Joe 75
Hamilton, Ryan 74

Vancouver:
Sedin, Daniel 90
Sedin, Henrik 90
Kesler, Ryan 86
Roy, Derek 85
Burrows, Alexandre 84
Booth, David 82
Higgins, Chris 82
Raymond, Mason 82
Hansen, Jannik 81
Malhotra, Manny 79
Kassian, Zack 78
Ebbett, Andrew 78
Lapierre, Maxim 78
Weise, Dale 77
Schroeder, Jordan 76
Sestito, Tom 76
Gordon, Andrew 76
Pinizzotto, Steven 72
Sweatt, Bill 70
Jensen, Nicklas 70

Washington:
Ovechkin, Alex 89
Ribeiro, Mike 88
Backstrom, Nicklas 88
Erat, Martin 85
Laich, Brooks 83
Johansson, Marcus 82
Brouwer, Troy 82
Perreault, Mathieu 82
Wolski, Wojtek 81
Ward, Joel 81
Chimera, Jason 81
Crabb, Joey 80
Fehr, Eric 79
Hendricks, Matt 78
Beagle, Jay 77
Volpatti, Aaron 75
Wilson, Tom 70

Winnipeg:
Ladd, Andrew 86
Wheeler, Blake 86
Kane, Evander 85
Little, Bryan 85
Jokinen, Olli 84
Antropov, Nik 83
Wellwood, Kyle 82
Miettinen, Antti 81
Santorelli, Mike 80
Burmistrov, Alexander 79
Slater, Jim 79
Thorburn, Chris 78
Tangradi, Eric 77
Cormier, Patrice 75
Gagnon, Aaron 74
Wright, James 74
Peluso, Anthony 73
Scheifele, Mark 73

Goaltenders
Anaheim:
Hiller, Jonas 86
Fasth, Viktor 80

Boston:
Still in playoffs

Buffalo:
Miller, Ryan 87
Enroth, Jhonas 79
Hackett, Matt 76

Calgary:
Kiprusoff, Miikka 84
MacDonald, Joey 78
Irving, Leland 73
Taylor, Daniel 73

Carolina:
Ward, Cam 85
Ellis, Dan 78
Peters, Justin 75

Chicago:
Still in playoffs

Columbus:
Bobrovsky, Sergei 84
Leighton, Michael 71

Colorado:
Varlamov, Semyon 83
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien 80
Aittokallio, Sami 75

Dallas:
Lehtonen, Kari 86
Bachman, Richard 75
Nilstorp, Cristopher 73

Detroit:
Still in playoffs

Edmonton:
Dubnyk, Devan 83
Khabibulin, Nikolai 79
Danis, Yann 71

Florida:
Theodore, Jose 82
Clemmensen, Scott 79
Markstrom, Jacob 75

Los Angeles:
Still in playoffs

Minnesota:
Backstrom, Niklas 85
Harding, Josh 78
Kuemper, Darcy 75

Montreal:
Price, Carey 89
Budaj, Peter 78

Nashville:
Rinne, Pekka 91
Mason, Chris 76

New Jersey:
Brodeur, Martin 85
Hedberg, Johan 81
Frazee, Jeff 76
Kinkaid, Keith 75

NY Islanders:
Nabokov, Evgeni 80
Poulin, Kevin 76
DiPietro, Rick 75

NY Rangers:
Still in playoffs

Ottawa:
Still in playoffs

Philadelphia:
Bryzgalov, Ilya 85
Mason, Steve 79
Boucher, Brian 77

Phoenix:
Smith, Mike 88
LaBarbera, Jason 78
Johnson, Chad 78

Pittsburgh:
Still in playoffs

San Jose:
Still in playoffs

St. Louis:
Halak, Jaroslav 86
Elliott, Brian 84
Allen, Jake 76

Tampa Bay:
Garon, Mathieu 79
Lindback, Anders 79
Bishop, Ben 79
Desjardins, Cedrick 77

Toronto:
Reimer, James 83
Scrivens, Ben 77
Rynnas, Jussi 71

Vancouver:
Luongo, Roberto 89
Schneider, Cory 86

Washington:
Holtby, Braden 85
Neuvirth, Michal 82
Grubauer, Philipp 73

Winnipeg:
Pavelec, Ondrej 83
Montoya, Al 78
I know you put a lot of work into this.. but wtf? Ribeiro 88? Smith 88? Lecavalier 87? Kadri 85? I don't see many underrated ones but you're throwing 87+ ratings around like they're nothing. I suggest you check how many people are actually about 87 in NHL 13

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I know you put a lot of work into this.. but wtf? Ribeiro 88? Smith 88? Lecavalier 87? Kadri 85? I don't see many underrated ones but you're throwing 87+ ratings around like they're nothing. I suggest you check how many people are actually about 87 in NHL 13
By the current rosters, there are 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders to start (believe me, I'm well aware of how many of what there are. I have a spreadsheet with 121,377 data points including NHL 13 ratings). If I gave a crap about how EA sets their rosters up initially, I'd lower the ratings to make it inline with how EA originally presents the rosters. Unfortunately, many people (like you) don't seem to understand how bad EA's ratings are even to their own game engine!

Since EA decided that nearly every 3-star or higher guy who is 24 years old jumps to 80+ OVR 1 year into BAGM, displacing a solid ~15% of the NHL each year for the first few years, clearly EA's rosters are flawed for BAGM. The other flaw in EA's rosters is that any player that is currently 25 years of age or older will barely progress (if they ever do) and young players, Snipers especially, often get 99s in shooting attributes once they hit 25 years of age. This leaves many veterans at a large disadvantage from a scoring perspective. Shooting, as you may be aware, makes up a large portion of a Forward's OVR rating (Wrist Shot Accuracy and Wrist Shot Power, especially), so increasing those ratings will, obviously, increase their OVR. Lastly, scoring is WAY down in NHL 13 for BAGM, so increasing the scoring capacity of the forwards is a way to increase scoring.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR

Do you not see the problem with EA's ratings here? 80 OVR is a SECOND LINER to start! Then you have about 50 3-star or higher guys go to 80 OVR or higher after 1 year! So after 1 year, your 2nd liners are now 3rd liners, your 3rd liners are now 4th liners, and over half the 4th liners are out of a job.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings (2012-2013) vs. EA's ratings (2019-2020)
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR vs. 84-98 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR vs. 81-84 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR vs. 80-81 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR vs. 78-80 OVR

Tell me, which is closer: EA's ratings or my ratings to what the game engine dictates in BAGM mode after 8 seasons? My bottom 6 ratings are nearly perfect whereas my top 6 ratings are slightly (by 1 OVR) higher than EA's 2019-2020 ratings. Meanwhile, EA's ratings are WAY OFF! An 80 OVR guy is among the top 180 forwards (2nd liner) in the latest rosters (May 2013) and yet, after 7 seasons, an 80 OVR guy is a 3rd or 4th liner!

So, you may disagree all you want, but my ratings are done for a specific reason and they're actually far better in the BAGM engine than EA's own rosters.

BTW, Smith was a Vezina finalist last year (and ALL my ratings are 100% objective; based on statistics, no bias), Lecavalier was an 87 OVR to start NHL 13 and EA dropped him to an 86 OVR (compared to my 87 OVR! The horror!), and Ribeiro has averaged 72 points per 82 games over the past 3 seasons, the 26th most in the NHL (and, if you weren't aware, offensive awareness and passing, which Ribeiro is one of the best in the league in BOTH categories, are the second and third highest weighted attributes in the game for forwards).

I have 50 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders (so double the number of forwards and the same amount of goaltenders). EA has 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders in their May 2013 rosters. So I have double the number of forwards and the same number of goaltenders. By 2019-2020, there are 41 87+ OVR forwards and 11 87+ OVR goaltenders. Again, who's closer?

So, yeah, I guess next time I'll just pull arbitrary numbers out of my ass ...


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By the current rosters, there are 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders to start (believe me, I'm well aware of how many of what there are. I have a spreadsheet with 121,377 data points including NHL 13 ratings). If I gave a crap about how EA sets their rosters up initially, I'd lower the ratings to make it inline with how EA originally presents the rosters. Unfortunately, many people (like you) don't seem to understand how bad EA's ratings are even to their own game engine!

Since EA decided that nearly every 3-star or higher guy who is 24 years old jumps to 80+ OVR 1 year into BAGM, displacing a solid ~15% of the NHL each year for the first few years, clearly EA's rosters are flawed for BAGM. The other flaw in EA's rosters is that any player that is currently 25 years of age or older will barely progress (if they ever do) and young players, Snipers especially, often get 99s in shooting attributes once they hit 25 years of age. This leaves many veterans at a large disadvantage from a scoring perspective. Shooting, as you may be aware, makes up a large portion of a Forward's OVR rating (Wrist Shot Accuracy and Wrist Shot Power, especially), so increasing those ratings will, obviously, increase their OVR. Lastly, scoring is WAY down in NHL 13 for BAGM, so increasing the scoring capacity of the forwards is a way to increase scoring.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR

Do you not see the problem with EA's ratings here? 80 OVR is a SECOND LINER to start! Then you have about 50 3-star or higher guys go to 80 OVR or higher after 1 year! So after 1 year, your 2nd liners are now 3rd liners, your 3rd liners are now 4th liners, and over half the 4th liners are out of a job.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings (2012-2013) vs. EA's ratings (2019-2020)
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR vs. 84-98 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR vs. 81-84 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR vs. 80-81 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR vs. 78-80 OVR

Tell me, which is closer: EA's ratings or my ratings to what the game engine dictates in BAGM mode after 8 seasons? My bottom 6 ratings are nearly perfect whereas my top 6 ratings are slightly (by 1 OVR) higher than EA's 2019-2020 ratings. Meanwhile, EA's ratings are WAY OFF! An 80 OVR guy is among the top 180 forwards (2nd liner) in the latest rosters (May 2013) and yet, after 7 seasons, an 80 OVR guy is a 3rd or 4th liner!

So, you may disagree all you want, but my ratings are done for a specific reason and they're actually far better in the BAGM engine than EA's own rosters.

BTW, Smith was a Vezina finalist last year (and ALL my ratings are 100% objective; based on statistics, no bias), Lecavalier was an 87 OVR to start NHL 13 and EA dropped him to an 86 OVR (compared to my 87 OVR! The horror!), and Ribeiro has averaged 72 points per 82 games over the past 3 seasons, the 26th most in the NHL (and, if you weren't aware, offensive awareness and passing, which Ribeiro is one of the best in the league in BOTH categories, are the second and third highest weighted attributes in the game for forwards).

So, yeah, I guess next time I'll just pull arbitrary numbers out of my ass ...
Wow, I never thought about player ratings that way. Great post

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By the current rosters, there are 25 87+ OVR forwards and 10 87+ OVR goaltenders to start (believe me, I'm well aware of how many of what there are. I have a spreadsheet with 121,377 data points including NHL 13 ratings). If I gave a crap about how EA sets their rosters up initially, I'd lower the ratings to make it inline with how EA originally presents the rosters. Unfortunately, many people (like you) don't seem to understand how bad EA's ratings are even to their own game engine!

Since EA decided that nearly every 3-star or higher guy who is 24 years old jumps to 80+ OVR 1 year into BAGM, displacing a solid ~15% of the NHL each year for the first few years, clearly EA's rosters are flawed for BAGM. The other flaw in EA's rosters is that any player that is currently 25 years of age or older will barely progress (if they ever do) and young players, Snipers especially, often get 99s in shooting attributes once they hit 25 years of age. This leaves many veterans at a large disadvantage from a scoring perspective. Shooting, as you may be aware, makes up a large portion of a Forward's OVR rating (Wrist Shot Accuracy and Wrist Shot Power, especially), so increasing those ratings will, obviously, increase their OVR. Lastly, scoring is WAY down in NHL 13 for BAGM, so increasing the scoring capacity of the forwards is a way to increase scoring.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR

Do you not see the problem with EA's ratings here? 80 OVR is a SECOND LINER to start! Then you have about 50 3-star or higher guys go to 80 OVR or higher after 1 year! So after 1 year, your 2nd liners are now 3rd liners, your 3rd liners are now 4th liners, and over half the 4th liners are out of a job.

My ratings vs. EA's ratings (2012-2013) vs. EA's ratings (2019-2020)
Top 90 forward: 85-95 OVR vs. 83-95 OVR vs. 84-98 OVR
Top 180 forward: 82-85 OVR vs. 80-82 OVR vs. 81-84 OVR
Top 270 forward: 80-82 OVR vs. 77-80 OVR vs. 80-81 OVR
Top 360 forward: 78-80 OVR vs. 74-78 OVR vs. 78-80 OVR

Tell me, which is closer: EA's ratings or my ratings to what the game engine dictates in BAGM mode after 8 seasons? My bottom 6 ratings are nearly perfect whereas my top 6 ratings are slightly (by 1 OVR) higher than EA's 2019-2020 ratings. Meanwhile, EA's ratings are WAY OFF! An 80 OVR guy is among the top 180 forwards (2nd liner) in the latest rosters (May 2013) and yet, after 7 seasons, an 80 OVR guy is a 3rd or 4th liner!

So, you may disagree all you want, but my ratings are done for a specific reason and they're actually far better in the BAGM engine than EA's own rosters.

BTW, Smith was a Vezina finalist last year (and ALL my ratings are 100% objective; based on statistics, no bias), Lecavalier was an 87 OVR to start NHL 13 and EA dropped him to an 86 OVR (compared to my 87 OVR! The horror!), and Ribeiro has averaged 72 points per 82 games over the past 3 seasons, the 26th most in the NHL (and, if you weren't aware, offensive awareness and passing, which Ribeiro is one of the best in the league in BOTH categories, are the second and third highest weighted attributes in the game for forwards).

So, yeah, I guess next time I'll just pull arbitrary numbers out of my ass ...
You're basing your numbers on BAGM? Player growth in BAGM is terribly flawed.

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