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05-18-2013, 04:57 PM
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DW and Sharks fined $100k

PollakOnSharks 2:56pm via Web
The NHL has fined #SJSharks $100,000 for GM Wilson's critical statement on Torres suspension, calling it "prohibited communication."



helenenothelen 2:54pm via Web
interesting note about NHL's fine of $100,000 for Wilson's comments: $25,000 was automatic fine for issuing formal team statement within

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48 hours of a disciplinary decision. The extra $75,000 was for "the inappropriate nature of the comments," per NHL release.

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The NHL has fined #SJSharks $100,000 for GM Wilson's critical statement on Torres suspension, calling it "prohibited communication."



helenenothelen 2:54pm via Web
interesting note about NHL's fine of $100,000 for Wilson's comments: $25,000 was automatic fine for issuing formal team statement within

helenenothelen 2:55pm via Web
48 hours of a disciplinary decision. The extra $75,000 was for "the inappropriate nature of the comments," per NHL release.

Wow!! **** them!! What a crock of ****!!

Can they appeal the 2nd part? I thought DW skirted the line quite well about the suspension. He didn't say it was the wrong call, just that they disagreed and why it shouldn't have been a suspend-able offense.


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Apparently Shanahan and Buttman need new shoes from standing in all of that bull****!

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Hahahaha, keep your mouth shut next time, Dougie. You can't get the suspension lowered and then still talk ****.

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Hahahaha, keep your mouth shut next time, Dougie. You can't get the suspension lowered and then still talk ****.
I don't think they care about a fine. lol All this free playoff money they're getting the next two games should refill the coffers.

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Yeah but he's hurting the working relationship with Shanny. Maybe next time Shannaban won't be as charmed by DW. Unless he wasn't this time and DW was just acting like a bitter ex-gf.

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Yeah but he's hurting the working relationship with Shanny. Maybe next time Shannaban won't be as charmed by DW. Unless he wasn't this time and DW was just acting like a bitter ex-gf.
Shanny was a Red Wing and DW is best known for being a Blackhawk. I doubt there's much love there anyways.

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Yeah but he's hurting the working relationship with Shanny. Maybe next time Shannaban won't be as charmed by DW. Unless he wasn't this time and DW was just acting like a bitter ex-gf.
I can't imagine that there was much of a working relationship between the two. Shanny handles suspensions so it's a very rare case where DW actually needs to talk to him. And if he feels so strongly about their error, speaking about it may garner support elsewhere to remove him from the position. Hell, most disciplinary things that are handled by Shanahan aren't involving DW anyway. PA a lot of the time will take up the fight if it's necessary.

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Channeling his inner Al Davis. Doug "Maverick" Wilson.

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DW and Sharks fined $100k

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...nhl%3Atopheads

Looks like someone doesn't like getting called out for being wrong.

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DW had to have known this was coming. Which makes me wonder... what was the point?

It doesn't sway the referees at all because it isn't about their call.

It doesn't sway Shanahan at all.

I mean, I guess it shows the team that their GM cares, and it shows the fanbase that the GM cares. Is that worth 100 grand?

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DW had to have known this was coming. Which makes me wonder... what was the point?

It doesn't sway the referees at all because it isn't about their call.

It doesn't sway Shanahan at all.

I mean, I guess it shows the team that their GM cares, and it shows the fanbase that the GM cares. Is that worth 100 grand?
Plattner is probably going to the pay the fine, so for him it's a small price to pay to get a point across.

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if anything, I hope this at least gets the attention of future free agents, to know that your GM is willing to defend his player in public, $100k fine be damned

DW really didn't have to do anything, but the fact that he felt compelled to speak his mind when he believes he's 100% right and the league is 100% wrong... I'd greatly respect my boss for having my back publicly like that

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I know it's not my money, but IMHO it's worth every penny and needed to be said. Not just because this suspension was a complete joke, but the discipline (and reffing) have been very inconsistent.

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DW had to have known this was coming. Which makes me wonder... what was the point?

It doesn't sway the referees at all because it isn't about their call.

It doesn't sway Shanahan at all.

I mean, I guess it shows the team that their GM cares, and it shows the fanbase that the GM cares. Is that worth 100 grand?
It rallies the team. Teams and coaches are always looking for a way to say they get no respect and its them against the world. It makes their blood boil and they play harder.

If they win the cup of even just get past la the get 2 more home games which generates $1 million each so yeah the $100 grand would be worth it.

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if anything, I hope this at least gets the attention of future free agents, to know that your GM is willing to defend his player in public, $100k fine be damned

DW really didn't have to do anything, but the fact that he felt compelled to speak his mind when he believes he's 100% right and the league is 100% wrong... I'd greatly respect my boss for having my back publicly like that
This tells me that DW was seething and likely had a pretty heated exchange with shanny over this hit.

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DW had to have known this was coming. Which makes me wonder... what was the point?

It doesn't sway the referees at all because it isn't about their call.

It doesn't sway Shanahan at all.

I mean, I guess it shows the team that their GM cares, and it shows the fanbase that the GM cares. Is that worth 100 grand?
Good point, there must be a reason, even if it is simply your last sentance.

Maybe he's setting the stage this summer to push for some clear cut fair rules. IMO, Raffi was discriminated against or, at the very least, the victim of a double-standard. The past history of the player in question should not be used to determine whether a hit is legal or not. It should only be used to help determine proper discipline should the hit to be determined dirty/illegal. Very few other players would have been found guilty of an illegal hit in this situation and that is just-plain-wrong.

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Good point, there must be a reason, even if it is simply your last sentance.

Maybe he's setting the stage this summer to push for some clear cut fair rules. IMO, Raffi was discriminated against or, at the very least, the victim of a double-standard. The past history of the player in question should not be used to determine whether a hit is legal or not. It should only be used to help determine proper discipline should the hit to be determined dirty/illegal. Very few other players would have been found guilty of an illegal hit in this situation and that is just-plain-wrong.
You would think he cleared it with plattner/ownership group since you would think he should know that a fine would be coming. I don't see this as a hot headed decision. I suspect there is more behind this.

Maybe it's one of those situations where the people in charge will keep doing what they want to do until something is made of it publicly and then even if no public statement is made, they decide behind closed doors that they will have to clean things up. Just a guess.

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My thoughts:

0- It was the truth and needed to be said.
1- Plattner probably approved it as DW knew the fine would be a result.
2- Down 0-2 and the team needed a lift, and this is the kind of lift DW can do.
3- It will go along way in signing Torres.

So this is shaping up to be money well spent.

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My thoughts:

0- It was the truth and needed to be said.
1- Plattner probably approved it as DW knew the fine would be a result.
2- Down 0-2 and the team needed a lift, and this is the kind of lift DW can do.
3- It will go along way in signing Torres.

So this is shaping up to be money well spent.
You nailed it brother. I know if I was Torres I would be jacked that my GM stuck his neck out for me. Hopefully he thanks DW by playing out of his skull against chi/det after we eliminate the Queens.

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My thoughts:

0- It was the truth and needed to be said.
1- Plattner probably approved it as DW knew the fine would be a result.
2- Down 0-2 and the team needed a lift, and this is the kind of lift DW can do.
3- It will go along way in signing Torres.

So this is shaping up to be money well spent.
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You nailed it brother. I know if I was Torres I would be jacked that my GM stuck his neck out for me. Hopefully he thanks DW by playing out of his skull against chi/det after we eliminate the Queens.
Agreed.... But i think it must go deeper still.

If every hit raffi throws is put under the microscope, how effective can he be? Or how long can we expect him to play before getting unjustly suspended again?

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Glen Healy on CBC hotstove just said that DW was wrong on all of his points and that is why he was fined by the league. What a dbag!

As they were cutting to the break, Ron MacLean said he disagreed that all of the points were wrong.

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Agreed.... But i think it must go deeper still.

If every hit raffi throws is put under the microscope, how effective can he be? Or how long can we expect him to play before getting unjustly suspended again?
Good point.

However, question from the reverse angle: How hard did DW try to prevent a Torres trade to Vancouver? Answer: Hard enough to get Torres traded to SJ.

Pump that same logic into this summer's equations: Might a $100k fine persuade Torres and his agent that San Jose is a prefered bidder for his services?

DW's current situation is interesting because UFA Torres unsuspended is a positive roster asset, but UFA Torres mired in a suspension swamp is almost as bad as Havlat mired in an injury swamp.

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Glen Healy on CBC hotstove just said that DW was wrong on all of his points and that is why he was fined by the league. What a dbag!

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